beyond our ken Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 23 hours ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Ha ha ha. Even after a night like last night you can still manage to fill your post with negative connotations. Exciting night great result largely, a poor performance with too many poor shots and overhit passes or crosses a slightly better team would have punished us for defensive blunders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstretchuk Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 10 hours ago, Sweeper07 said: I don't think you are right on this one - the offside rule has changed. He was inactive and then played on by MacKenzie's "pass". Who gives a flying f**k what u think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, gstretchuk said: Who gives a flying f**k what u think! You're hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 57 minutes ago, munoz said: You're hard. No he is not - this is his forum for acting tough - he's an utter twat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 With Celtic and Rangers players getting pulled up for elbows and that why isn’t the Hamilton player?Because it’s only little st Mirren and Hamilton.Was clear intent for me his shoulder moves towards MacKenzie no effort to try avoid contact with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 On 5/14/2019 at 10:13 AM, madball said: If true then as crap as it is that someone being racist (and no surprise that there are some idiots out there in our support and wider) it is pleasing that fans dealt with it and reported it as no place for it in our support Did you think I'd made it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madball Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, HSS said: Did you think I'd made it up? No, not at all. I was hoping it would turn out to be wrong like the spitting story, but know that we have idiots in our support who would shout this sort of stuff. I've heard about another incident yesterday that went unreported in W2 so whilst I'm pleased this one was dealt with we've more to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 First chance I’ve had to watch the highlights. IMO. The sending off was harsh, I agree with the commentators , too far from goal to be a clear and obvious goal scoring opportunity. Mullen should have received a yellow for his tackle on Gordon and the big No 99 for Hamilton should have saw Red and needs to be cited for his shoulder into McKenzie . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 17 hours ago, Sweeper07 said: 17 hours ago, saintargyll said: through ball came off a st.mirren head.... onside im afraid That is what I thought - think it was MacKenzie's header .. When' the ball was played he WAS offside and offside is judged by where was the intended receiving player....WHEN.... the ball was struck, ergo offside .....Debate? 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Blair Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 When' the ball was played he WAS offside and offside is judged by where was the intended receiving player....WHEN.... the ball was struck, ergo offside .....Debate? [emoji1]True but did the goalie's kick come from a free kick or a goal kick?You can't be offside from a goal kick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Eric Arthur Blair said: True but did the goalie's kick come from a free kick or a goal kick? You can't be offside from a goal kick. I'm fairly sure it was a free kick, of course there is the various 'phases of play but if ball was aimed at him then he was offside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 5 hours ago, gstretchuk said: Who gives a flying f**k what u think! 99% more than you Shull, hence your need to keep escaping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstretchuk Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 5 hours ago, munoz said: You're hard. Your not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstretchuk Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Sweeper07 said: No he is not - this is his forum for acting tough - he's an utter twat. Another wonderful well thought out witty post from the forum tool bag... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintargyll Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 40 minutes ago, jaybee said: When' the ball was played he WAS offside and offside is judged by where was the intended receiving player....WHEN.... the ball was struck, ergo offside .....Debate? 😄 He was standing in an offside position and linesman does not flag till he touches the ball im not so sure he was the intended receiver as MacKensie headers it before it reaches him hench...onside im afraid its kinda like if a defender passes the ball back to his keeper and there is an attacker inbetween then the attacker is not offside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie Bear Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 hours ago, buddies1877 said: With Celtic and Rangers players getting pulled up for elbows and that why isn’t the Hamilton player? Because it’s only little st Mirren and Hamilton. Was clear intent for me his shoulder moves towards MacKenzie no effort to try avoid contact with him. THIS We seem to be the nicest support in the world "Ach he was probably onside, I know he was 5 yards off but it'll be that phase thing" "Ach Our centre half has been assaulted and potential out concussed but he probably didn't mean it" "Ach he got a wee touch so he probably didn't dive into our box looking for a penalty, yeah he waved his arms at the ref but he was probably just trying to get up" "Yeah he's kicked our player on the ground but he was lying on the ball and McGinn should know better than to talk to the ref" "Ach there's Mullen on the ground, he's probably dived cause he did it once before remember" That striker should be playing no further part at the weekend and yet I heard absolutely bugger all while an incident already seen and yellow carded is put into a hearing to be upgraded to red because just as Tuesday night the referees view was obscured by the back of the player. Different rules for different clubs but we don't half help them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam_Valley Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, Katie Bear said: THIS We seem to be the nicest support in the world "Ach he was probably onside, I know he was 5 yards off but it'll be that phase thing" "Ach Our centre half has been assaulted and potential out concussed but he probably didn't mean it" "Ach he got a wee touch so he probably didn't dive into our box looking for a penalty, yeah he waved his arms at the ref but he was probably just trying to get up" "Yeah he's kicked our player on the ground but he was lying on the ball and McGinn should know better than to talk to the ref" "Ach there's Mullen on the ground, he's probably dived cause he did it once before remember" That striker should be playing no further part at the weekend and yet I heard absolutely bugger all while an incident already seen and yellow carded is put into a hearing to be upgraded to red because just as Tuesday night the referees view was obscured by the back of the player. Different rules for different clubs but we don't half help them out. You are a lunatic Ignore list for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie Bear Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, saintargyll said: He was standing in an offside position and linesman does not flag till he touches the ball im not so sure he was the intended receiver as MacKensie headers it before it reaches him hench...onside im afraid its kinda like if a defender passes the ball back to his keeper and there is an attacker inbetween then the attacker is not offside How the hell is it not aimed at him? The keeper's free kick is literally in a straight line at him and lands just 5 yards over where his start position is. There's literally no one else in that area he could be targetting. Unless he just overhit his kick by 15 yards and pushed it right when actually aiming for the 2 guys near the ref in the centre then he was exactly the intended receiver but just got the advantage of running on when his team mate moved across. to challenge. It should have been flagged offside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, shetland said: You don't even know who are you talking to. You dont even know who you are anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, shetland said: You don't even know who are you talking to. Well it wasnt you, oh hold, yes it was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornwall_Saint Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 If it was a goalkick, it’s not offside, end of debate. If it was a free kick - if he’s offside when the ball was hit, he’s offside. If he was onside for the original kick, then off when McKenzie headered it, he’s onside. It’s about the original kick here. He is not “inactive” because if McKenzie doesn’t clear it, then Accies are through on goal. Therefore McKenzie has to act to stop that from happening. It doesn’t matter if he scuffs his header, doesn’t matter if he wins it properly, he’s had to act because of what’s behind him. The main factor here is the original free kick, was he offside when that was hit? The rest is irrelevant in this specific situation. The Accies guy was the intended target so he’s most definitely active. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, Cornwall_Saint said: If it was a goalkick, it’s not offside, end of debate. If it was a free kick - if he’s offside when the ball was hit, he’s offside. If he was onside for the original kick, then off when McKenzie headered it, he’s onside. It’s about the original kick here. He is not “inactive” because if McKenzie doesn’t clear it, then Accies are through on goal. Therefore McKenzie has to act to stop that from happening. It doesn’t matter if he scuffs his header, doesn’t matter if he wins it properly, he’s had to act because of what’s behind him. The main factor here is the original free kick, was he offside when that was hit? The rest is irrelevant in this specific situation. The Accies guy was the intended target so he’s most definitely active. ^^^^ This - bang on . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 6 hours ago, HSS said: Did you think I'd made it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie Bear Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Cornwall_Saint said: If it was a goalkick, it’s not offside, end of debate. If it was a free kick - if he’s offside when the ball was hit, he’s offside. If he was onside for the original kick, then off when McKenzie headered it, he’s onside. It’s about the original kick here. He is not “inactive” because if McKenzie doesn’t clear it, then Accies are through on goal. Therefore McKenzie has to act to stop that from happening. It doesn’t matter if he scuffs his header, doesn’t matter if he wins it properly, he’s had to act because of what’s behind him. The main factor here is the original free kick, was he offside when that was hit? The rest is irrelevant in this specific situation. The Accies guy was the intended target so he’s most definitely active. Yup as other poster says, spot on ...and it was indeed a free kick from around the penalty spot and not a goal kick which would have rendered all argument irrelevant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Callum Gilhooley said: First chance I’ve had to watch the highlights. IMO. The sending off was harsh, I agree with the commentators , too far from goal to be a clear and obvious goal scoring opportunity. Mullen should have received a yellow for his tackle on Gordon and the big No 99 for Hamilton should have saw Red and needs to be cited for his shoulder into McKenzie . What commentators are you talking about? All the BT ones agreed it was a nailed on red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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