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Is that the thread about the loaves?
Nope, the Danny Baker thread is the one where I've had my posts compared to things said by Tommy Robinson, had it insinuated that I'm a racist, blatantly called a racist twat, been told that humans are not animals, that I will burn for eternity and that scrumping causes childhood cancer in your descendants.

The Oran thread is the one about loaves.

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1 hour ago, Slartibartfast said:

Nope, the Danny Baker thread is the one where I've had my posts compared to things said by Tommy Robinson, had it insinuated that I'm a racist, blatantly called a racist twat, been told that humans are not animals, that I will burn for eternity and that scrumping causes childhood cancer in your descendants.

The Oran thread is the one about loaves. emoji14.png

Hard to disagree TBH. 

PS WTF is scrumping? :blink:

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PS WTF is scrumping?                OK. let's see; did you ever raid gardens for strawberries? or sneak around with a suger poke searching for Rhubarb, you did?  good, well just substitute either of those for apples and that's scrumping!  😎

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9 hours ago, oaksoft said:

It's the thread where Sweeper07 is making claims that....

 

9 hours ago, Slartibartfast said:

Nope, the Danny Baker thread is the one where I've had my posts compared to things said by Tommy Robinson, had it insinuated that I'm a racist, blatantly called a racist twat, been told that humans are not animals, that I will burn for eternity and that scrumping causes childhood cancer in your descendants.

The Oran thread is the one about loaves. emoji14.png

FFS!

whoosh.

baker, loaves....?

One is scattering one’s pearls on rocky forums, some days!  😜

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It's high time we went to a system of a top league of 16 teams and no play offs with the rest of the SPFL splitting into two leagues.  retain the split after all trams have played home and away.  37 games is plenty.  I'd even be happy for a 6/10 split to set up a better final few weeks.

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1 minute ago, beyond our ken said:

It's high time we went to a system of a top league of 16 teams and no play offs with the rest of the SPFL splitting into two leagues.  retain the split after all trams have played home and away.  37 games is plenty.  I'd even be happy for a 6/10 split to set up a better final few weeks.

How could you get it so wrong?  :o

You were rattling around (same as me) in the days when the trams were abandoned and the rails ripped up.

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5 minutes ago, beyond our ken said:

It's high time we went to a system of a top league of 16 teams and no play offs with the rest of the SPFL splitting into two leagues.  retain the split after all trams have played home and away.  37 games is plenty.  I'd even be happy for a 6/10 split to set up a better final few weeks.

The overall idea (that we would be likely to be "safer") has some appeal but the present position has drama.

The idea of 14 Teams with a Split and Play-Offs would bring two more clubs into the top league and retain the drama.

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It's high time we went to a system of a top league of 16 teams and no play offs with the rest of the SPFL splitting into two leagues.  retain the split after all trams have played home and away.  37 games is plenty.  I'd even be happy for a 6/10 split to set up a better final few weeks.
Definitely need bigger divisions within the league set up. Play each other twice but chairmen and TV companies won't agree.
Not sure about trams though...

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16 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

Is this Mixed Metaphor Month?. :P

No.

 

THIS is a Moth metaphor:

“A man found a cocoon of a moth.  He took it home so that he could watch the moth come out of the cocoon.” 

“On the day a small opening appeared, he sat and watched the moth for several hours as the moth struggled to force its body through that little hole. Then it seemed to stop making any progress.  It appeared as if it had gotten as far as it could and it could go no farther.  It just seemed to be stuck.” 

“Then the man, in his kindness, decided to help the moth.  So he took a pair of scissors and snipped off the remaining bit of the cocoon.  The moth then emerged easily, but it had a swollen body and small-shriveled wings.  The man continued to watch the moth because he expected that, at any moment, the wings would enlarge and expand to be able to support the body, which would contract in time. Neither happened! In fact, the little moth spent the rest of its life crawling around with a swollen body and shriveled wings. It never was able to fly.”

 “It is only through the efforts to free our selves from our own personal cocoons that we can gain the strength to fly.  By continuing to do the small and simple things one day at a time you will gain the strength to fly.  No matter where you are at in the process just keep facing forward with an optimistic attitude.  Things are going to work out and you are going to make it!”

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11 hours ago, Slartibartfast said:

OK, so what you are saying is that, before a ball is kicked in a season, you have no idea whether or not the finalist from the Championship will have played more games that season than second bottom in the Premiership. You could just have led with that and saved us all some trouble. emoji14.png

No, the finalist  from the championship, if placed third or fourth will have played at least three scheduled games more than second bottom of the premiership. Normally a roaster would have been along to correct you on that, but then that would only have made all their other pish stink more!

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No, the finalist  from the championship, if placed third or fourth will have played at least three scheduled games more than second bottom of the premiership. Normally a roaster would have been along to correct you on that, but then that would only have made all their other pish stink more!
IF

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14 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

No, the finalist  from the championship, if placed third or fourth will have played at least three scheduled games more than second bottom of the premiership. Normally a roaster would have been along to correct you on that, but then that would only have made all their other pish stink more!

So you don't know how many games they would each have played.

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11 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

So you don't know how many games they would each have played.

What you mean like you. Ffs at least have a semblance of an arguement, or counter point. Unless you wanna join the roasting fraternity, of sweeper, bazil et al?

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On ‎5‎/‎28‎/‎2019 at 12:55 PM, Lord Pityme said:

Even before we successfully navigated them this season i have always believed that its wrong for the team finishing second bottom of the Prem to be involved in the playoffs. It should imo be two up, two down. With championship winner automatically promoted and 2,3,4, and 5th involved in a home and away semi final, and a one game final at Hampden or if it makes more sense an alternative neutral venue.

that gives half the championship a shout at promotion, and half the premiership a big incentive to avoid two trap door slots.

thoughts now we are out of the smelly stuff?

Disagree

 

Now move along, move along indeed

 

 

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10 hours ago, jaybee said:

PS WTF is scrumping?                OK. let's see; did you ever raid gardens for strawberries? or sneak around with a suger poke searching for Rhubarb, you did?  good, well just substitute either of those for apples and that's scrumping!  😎

A spoolie known in my day

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19 minutes ago, windae cleaner said:

A spoolie known in my day

Haven't heard that one, neve heard it used around Paisley, at least in my youth 50's and 60's. whereabouts did you or do you live? I 

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10 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

What you mean like you. Ffs at least have a semblance of an arguement, or counter point. Unless you wanna join the roasting fraternity, of sweeper, bazil et al?

Just because you don't understand the point, doesn't mean that there isn't one.

 

Playing how many more games is acceptable for it to be "fair"?  Utd players got to rest on the Saturday before the first leg, whereas ours had to play a game - is that "fair"?

 

Most competitions do not take into account how many games each team has played.  For example, if the Scottish Champions were to reach the Champions League final and were facing the Bundesliga Champions then the Scottish Champions would have played more games than the Bundesliga Champions to get there as they would have entered in the qualifying stages while the Germans would have entered at the group stages.  There is qualifying for the Scottish Cup too, and the same sort of situation could apply.

 

If you want to limit it to league games played then your point of the Challenge Cup is moot and the "fairness" is easily sorted by only having the second and third place teams in the Championship play off to face the second bottom of the Premiership.  But, talking of "fairness", is it "fair" that the third place team even gets a shot at it, after all, they haven't been good enough over the season to finish in the top two.  That would just leave second in the Championship facing second bottom in the Premiership - but then the Championship team would have played less games and it wouldn't be "fair".

 

So, the question really is, what exactly do you mean by "fair"?

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3 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

Just because you don't understand the point, doesn't mean that there isn't one.

 

Playing how many more games is acceptable for it to be "fair"?  Utd players got to rest on the Saturday before the first leg, whereas ours had to play a game - is that "fair"?

 

Most competitions do not take into account how many games each team has played.  For example, if the Scottish Champions were to reach the Champions League final and were facing the Bundesliga Champions then the Scottish Champions would have played more games than the Bundesliga Champions to get there as they would have entered in the qualifying stages while the Germans would have entered at the group stages.  There is qualifying for the Scottish Cup too, and the same sort of situation could apply.

 

If you want to limit it to league games played then your point of the Challenge Cup is moot and the "fairness" is easily sorted by only having the second and third place teams in the Championship play off to face the second bottom of the Premiership.  But, talking of "fairness", is it "fair" that the third place team even gets a shot at it, after all, they haven't been good enough over the season to finish in the top two.  That would just leave second in the Championship facing second bottom in the Premiership - but then the Championship team would have played less games and it wouldn't be "fair".

 

So, the question really is, what exactly do you mean by "fair"?

Answer, rewarding achievement, not rewarding being the second least piss poor team in the league.

ffs there was an award ceremony on Sunday! Yeah great if its between clubs in the same league with the same level of resources etc, go celebrate that success. We got an award for beating the team who Ayr gubbed 5-0, on penalties after two games and extra time.

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11 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

Answer, rewarding achievement, not rewarding being the second least piss poor team in the league.

ffs there was an award ceremony on Sunday! Yeah great if its between clubs in the same league with the same level of resources etc, go celebrate that success. We got an award for beating the team who Ayr gubbed 5-0, on penalties after two games and extra time.

Is your whole point that it is just as well that we didn't have to play Ayr?

 

So you think that Utd should be rewarded for being the second best team in a piss poor league?

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1 hour ago, Lord Pityme said:

What you mean like you. Ffs at least have a semblance of an arguement, or counter point. Unless you wanna join the roasting fraternity, of sweeper, bazil et al?

Your a Riot - in the RAOASTERS LEAGUE you qualify for Europe with most of your posts . . .   :turtle   :hammer    :boxing

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45 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

Answer, rewarding achievement, not rewarding being the second least piss poor team in the league.

ffs there was an award ceremony on Sunday! Yeah great if its between clubs in the same league with the same level of resources etc, go celebrate that success. We got an award for beating the team who Ayr gubbed 5-0, on penalties after two games and extra time.

Would that not be second place?  I don't think they get rewarded.

 

We finished as the second least good team in the league.

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2 hours ago, Slartibartfast said:

Is your whole point that it is just as well that we didn't have to play Ayr?

 

So you think that Utd should be rewarded for being the second best team in a piss poor league?

 

1 hour ago, Slartibartfast said:

Would that not be second place?  I don't think they get rewarded.

 

We finished as the second least good team in the league.

Reward teams trying to get promoted, not those who have been poor, and lost loads of games, with a poor goal difference. Is that too difficult to grasp?

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