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2 hours ago, Slarti said:

Or maybe there are more votes left to count than the difference between the two of them?  Just a thought.

That IS the case, but in Penn currently Biden's ahead by something like 8-9000 votes

There are maybe 10-15,000 postal votes to be counted.

It is accepted by all but the deranged, departing President that it is likely that most people who voted by mail support the Dems as many people did so by post as they didn't trust that voting on the day would not be compromised.

Even if those uncounted votes split evenly for Reps and Dems Mr Orange would not win.  

But that split is never, not anyhow, going to fall in his favour.

 

I bet...  :rolleyes:

 

 

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JUST ANNOUNCED:

In Georgia however, this is the situation right now.

As of now, Joe Biden leads Donald Trump by just 1,579 votes in Georgia, representing a virtual tie.

 

The recount will also have huge implications for control of the US Senate. As of now, Republican incumbent David Perdue’s vote share in his race has dipped below 50%, which would force a January runoff.

The other Georgia Senate race is already headed to a runoff. If both Georgia seats are up for grabs in January, it’s possible Democrats could take control of the Senate if they won both those races and the White House.

Veryyy interesting....

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And an update from The Grauniad.  This gives more accurate numbers about Penn than I was suggesting above and gives a clear picture of why (in reality) Mr Orange has no chance of winning Penn.  Or the Presidency.

 

Biden and Co are calmly waiting on the numbers to be published and unassailable.

In previous years, normal defeated presidents or their defeated opponents were rational enough to concede and retain a modicum of public respect.

 

Sigh.

 

The Guardian’s Nina Lakhani reports from Pennsylvania:

The arduous wait continues in Pennsylvania, where Joe Biden currently leads by 12,497 votes.

At a press conference a few minutes ago, Lisa Deely, chairwoman of the city commissioners overseeing the count in Philadelphia, said 40,000 votes are still to be counted there, including military and provisional ballots.

It could take several days to complete this reporting, as some of these ballots will need to be adjudicated. Biden has so far won 81% of votes in Philadelphia.

Another big batch of outstanding votes are in Alleghany county, home to PA’s second biggest city Pittsburgh, where counting was suspended yesterday due to a legal challenge over 29,000 ballots. We’re still waiting on 37,000 or so ballots to be counted there.

In short, Biden will almost certainly pull off a comfortable win in Pennsylvania with 40,000 to 100,000 votes depending on who’s back of the envelope math you want to believe. But, the state may not be called for a few hours yet.

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That IS the case, but in Penn currently Biden's ahead by something like 8-9000 votes
There are maybe 10-15,000 postal votes to be counted.
It is accepted by all but the deranged, departing President that it is likely that most people who voted by mail support the Dems as many people did so by post as they didn't trust that voting on the day would not be compromised.
Even if those uncounted votes split evenly for Reps and Dems Mr Orange would not win.  
But that split is never, not anyhow, going to fall in his favour.
 
I bet...  :rolleyes:
 
 
Oh, I fully expect Biden to win Penn now. I was just saying that they don't know for sure, so aren't going to call it until it's (almost) statistically certain.

To put it another way, right now it's a BazFact, not a real fact. [emoji38]
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3 hours ago, Slarti said:

Oh, I fully expect Biden to win Penn now. I was just saying that they don't know for sure, so aren't going to call it until it's (almost) statistically certain.

To put it another way, right now it's a BazFact, not a real fact. emoji38.png

35 minutes ago, Slarti said:
3 hours ago, faraway saint said:
Let it go, we got it yonks ago. :snore

Aye, I know, everybody gets it. Well, everybody except ...

The five step ignore guide to BAWA

  1. Say you're going to stop responding and arguing with the person
  2. Keep responding and arguing with them a bit longer
  3. Put the person on ignore (make sure you announce it to everyone)
  4. Still follow almost every response to the person and bring the person up in completely unrelated topics, often bringing up long dead argument points you already said you’d stop arguing with them over
  5. Take the person off ignore and repeat from step one

Is there anyone that can help Slarti with his rage and failure to let go of one of the most trivial points in recent BAWA memory? I'm starting to worry about him. 

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1 hour ago, bazil85 said:

The five step ignore guide to BAWA

  1. Say you're going to stop responding and arguing with the person
  2. Keep responding and arguing with them a bit longer
  3. Put the person on ignore (make sure you announce it to everyone)
  4. Still follow almost every response to the person and bring the person up in completely unrelated topics, often bringing up long dead argument points you already said you’d stop arguing with them over
  5. Take the person off ignore and repeat from step one

Is there anyone that can help Bazil with his rage and failure to let go of one of the most trivial points in recent BAWA memory? I'm starting to worry about him. 

Fify

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3 hours ago, delpierro said:

It should've been Bernie emoji26.png

Watch Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 11/9, Bernie had the candidacy stolen off him in 2016, those in power would rather an unhinged fascist narcissist in power than a socialist. Sadly he's too old to make another bid, would love someone like AOC to stand but that most certainly will not be tolerated.

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The two main political parties in the US are center-right (Democrats) & right wing (Republican) so when Trump came along in 2016 & made a pitch for blue-collar &' left-behind US voters he was tapping into a segment of the population that is largely ignored outside of election day and the run-up.

That Trump was never gonna deliver the economic solutions these people needed, was in a way pitiful - as in the UK most people know that the system isn't working for them but get sidetracked a la Moe.

UKIP-Moe.png

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The two main political parties in the US are center-right (Democrats) & right wing (Republican) so when Trump came along in 2016 & made a pitch for blue-collar &' left-behind US voters he was tapping into a segment of the population that is largely ignored outside of election day and the run-up.

That Trump was never gonna deliver the economic solutions these people needed, was in a way pitiful - as in the UK most people know that the system isn't working for them but get sidetracked a la Moe.

UKIP-Moe.png

You could understand the frustrations that led to him being elected in 16 but after four years of bog-standard right wing economic measures (tax cuts for the rich/cuts to safety net programs for the poor & vulnerable) & divisive and hateful messages on social issues it's scary that he still got over 70 million to vote for him.

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