Dibbles old paperboy Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 In our list of loanees returning to parent clubs, players not having contracts renewed, it might have escaped people's notice we had a u19 international on our books this year who was in the first team squad and mutually consented with nothing being posted on the official site wishing them well for the future. Can anyone name the player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, cockles1987 said: Lewis Muir? There was so many of Stubbs Duds kicking about I forgot he existed. What happened to him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, cockles1987 said: He got mutually consented. It was hushed up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 52 minutes ago, Dibbles old paperboy said: In our list of loanees returning to parent clubs, players not having contracts renewed, it might have escaped people's notice we had a u19 international on our books this year who was in the first team squad and mutually consented with nothing being posted on the official site wishing them well for the future. Can anyone name the player? Is there not usually a separate retained list for the youth setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted June 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) On 6/3/2019 at 4:53 PM, Magic Monkey said: It was hushed up... Signed for club in the summer. One of a few academy players who made the first team bench early in the season. A few people watching academy games said he was looking better than Danny Rodgers was, and he got his first Scotland cap in the autumn and after a decent first few months, mutually consented. Edited June 5, 2019 by Dibbles old paperboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted June 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) On 6/3/2019 at 5:03 PM, aldo_j said: Is there not usually a separate retained list for the youth setup? Information on the youth academy squad was removed from the official website during the season. Previously it has still be announced when academy players go out on loan, represent Scotland (or their own country at youth international level), or if academy players are being released. When I looked a month or two ago I think our academy squad was listed as MacPherson and Erhahon! Edited June 5, 2019 by Dibbles old paperboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 Hushed up? TBH if there had been an announcement then I'd have been asking who he was. Released with the level of fanfare befitting a youth player IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dibbles old paperboy said: Signed for club in the summer. One of a few academy players who made the first bench early in the season. A few people watching academy games said he was looking better than Danny Rodgers was, and he got his first Scotland cap in the autumn and after a decent first few months, mutually consented. Josh Heaton is probably a better 'keeper than Danny Rodgers to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted June 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, FTOF said: Hushed up? TBH if there had been an announcement then I'd have been asking who he was. Released with the level of fanfare befitting a youth player IMO. The question is really why did we release someone who was doing well in the academy, had broken into the Scotland set up, when our No. 2 was out with a long term injury, and our No. 1 had just left to take up a coaching job at Sunderland. You'd think that in such a scenario we'd be keeping them until the end of the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Dibbles old paperboy said: The question is really why did we release someone who was doing well in the academy, had broken into the Scotland set up, when our No. 2 was out with a long term injury, and our No. 1 had just left to take up a coaching job at Sunderland. You'd think that in such a scenario we'd be keeping them until the end of the season? Who knows? Maybe he wasn't rated. Has he set the heather on fire somewhere since he's been released? I certainly don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 Players are released for a multitude of reasons. Underlying injury , poor attitude, received a better offer elsewhere . Who knows ? Unless of course you do with your cryptic “hushed-up “ comment. Pray , do tell . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornwall_Saint Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 Maybe he did a runner to join an Amazonian tribe and the club didn’t feel it worthwhile to explain this decision from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cornwall_Saint said: Maybe he did a runner to join an Amazonian tribe and the club didn’t feel it worthwhile to explain this decision from him. That's what I'd heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 Me tae. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, shull said: Me tae. The same Amazonian tribe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Dibbles old paperboy said: The question is really why did we release someone who was doing well in the academy, had broken into the Scotland set up, when our No. 2 was out with a long term injury, and our No. 1 had just left to take up a coaching job at Sunderland. You'd think that in such a scenario we'd be keeping them until the end of the season? Skin in the game, perhaps? Not massively angry, so you ain’t his Da. Uncle, perhaps? Plenty of decent keepers about, guessing he wasn’t quite good enough. Plenty of academy players come and go, most never make an appearance back at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 Maybe he did a runner to join an Amazonian tribe and the club didn’t feel it worthwhile to explain this decision from him.No much chance of wee Danny Rodgers doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted June 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, aldo_j said: Skin in the game, perhaps? Not massively angry, so you ain’t his Da. Uncle, perhaps? Plenty of decent keepers about, guessing he wasn’t quite good enough. Plenty of academy players come and go, most never make an appearance back at this level. I'm not the player's dad or uncle, nor a close family friend. I do find it surprising when we stand to make more on top of the £900k we already received from John McGinn (a former youth academy player) that there seems to be a feeling of no one cares why a Scotland U19 player left our academy set up mid-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dibbles old paperboy said: I'm not the player's dad or uncle, nor a close family friend. I do find it surprising when we stand to make more on top of the £900k we already received from John McGinn (a former youth academy player) that there seems to be a feeling of no one cares why a Scotland U19 player left our academy set up mid-season. Being a Scotland Under 19 doesn’t count for much. The majority of players at that level don’t go on to make career in a game. Even go back to 1989 when Scotland Under 16s finish as World Cup runners up. Out of that group, Paul Dickov arguably made the most of it. The best player, James Will, (funnily enough a GK!) never made it in the game far despite making it to Under 21 level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 Is Muir definitely away? Does seem a bit odd that he's been let go so quickly after getting a Scotland under-19 cap - which is pretty hard to do when you're not at the Old Firm. Would have thought it was maybe worth keeping hold of him to send out on loan and see how he does. Did someone not suggest a wee while back there was some unrest on the youth side of things because of someone who'd recently arrived at the club? Think it was only one post - hopefully this isn't a result of that and the decision has been made for the right reasons. There's been outcry a few times over the years when seemingly talented youngsters have been let go but, for the most part, we seem to have got it right. How many youth players we've released have gone on to perform at the sort of level that would have made it worth keeping? The only one that really gets brought up is Craig Slater but he was seemingly up against McLean and McGinn for a slot so that one was probably right too. Anyone know of any other youngsters being let go? And, on a more positive note, who are the ones we can expect to make the step-up to the first team in the near future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portmahomack saint Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Kemp said: Josh Heaton is probably a better 'keeper than Danny Rodgers to be honest. Danny Rodgers is probably a better centre half than Josh Heaton Edited June 3, 2019 by portmahomack saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, portmahomack saint said: Danny Rodgers is probably a better centre half than Josh Heaton Roy Rodgers is probably better than Heaton Edited June 3, 2019 by Callum Gilhooley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portmahomack saint Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said: Roy Rodgers is probably better than Heston . Aye mibbee but kin he drive a Chariot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 12 hours ago, Dibbles old paperboy said: I'm not the player's dad or uncle, nor a close family friend. I do find it surprising when we stand to make more on top of the £900k we already received from John McGinn (a former youth academy player) that there seems to be a feeling of no one cares why a Scotland U19 player left our academy set up mid-season. Still waiting for any official word thevclub is due more for McGinn., is it a nice deflection of wishful thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 Still waiting for any official word thevclub is due more for McGinn., is it a nice deflection of wishful thinking?Yeah , I wish the club would come right out and say how much we are getting . Would give other teams and agents a clearer idea of how much we can be fleeced for when looking at players for next season . 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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