MenstrieSaint Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Sweeper07 said: Plus our wages budget is about £5 - 600,000 better off this coming season... Expect more than 4 or 5 better players coming in and a few more of last seasons post split team to go elsewhere too... That will do nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Sweeper07 said: Plus our wages budget is about £5 - 600,000 better off this coming season... Expect more than 4 or 5 better players coming in and a few more of last seasons post split team to go elsewhere too... Interesting times ahead then? Need to get a move on we are back playing soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Sweeper07 said: Plus our wages budget is about £5 - 600,000 better off this coming season... Expect more than 4 or 5 better players coming in and a few more of last seasons post split team to go elsewhere too... I’d say £500-600k is pretty wild speculation. That’s a pretty significant jump as to where it is now. Has that been confirmed somewhere? Get the increase in tv, etc, but don’t expect the wage budget to move anywhere near that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 15 hours ago, aldo_j said: I’d say £500-600k is pretty wild speculation. That’s a pretty significant jump as to where it is now. Has that been confirmed somewhere? Get the increase in tv, etc, but don’t expect the wage budget to move anywhere near that. Okay, it is speculation based on where we finished this year and being awarded over £1.25 Million compared with winning the Championship previous season and having about £0.5 million in prize money and much greater crowds than had been budgeted for this past season. Yes it won't all go on the playing staff, but I suspect that more money will be budgeted in for this season on crowd income than the very conservative estimates used in last season's budget estimates. I would still be surprised if Hladky starts the season with us too - rubbish if he goes, but if that adds in a sizeable sum it will hopefully be more than a consolation too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 16 hours ago, Ethan said: Interesting times ahead then? Need to get a move on we are back playing soon. We are always anxious and being quick off the mark would ease that if we were bringing in top new players. Reality is many players and agents hold the cards at this stage. So much as I would love our signings to be already confirmed, I am also willing to wait, hoping that we get the right ones, and that they are keen to come to us too. (Hare and the Tortoise we hope) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Sweeper07 said: Okay, it is speculation based on where we finished this year and being awarded over £1.25 Million compared with winning the Championship previous season and having about £0.5 million in prize money and much greater crowds than had been budgeted for this past season. Yes it won't all go on the playing staff, but I suspect that more money will be budgeted in for this season on crowd income than the very conservative estimates used in last season's budget estimates. I would still be surprised if Hladky starts the season with us too - rubbish if he goes, but if that adds in a sizeable sum it will hopefully be more than a consolation too. If we can cash in on Hladky then it would be a good bit of business. I would prefer him to stay but the more cash brought in then the better players we can go after. We have to look at how well Kilmarnock have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ethan said: If we can cash in on Hladky then it would be a good bit of business. I would prefer him to stay but the more cash brought in then the better players we can go after. We have to look at how well Kilmarnock have done. About sums us up. We are someone else's better fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Sweeper07 said: Okay, it is speculation based on where we finished this year and being awarded over £1.25 Million compared with winning the Championship previous season and having about £0.5 million in prize money and much greater crowds than had been budgeted for this past season. Yes it won't all go on the playing staff, but I suspect that more money will be budgeted in for this season on crowd income than the very conservative estimates used in last season's budget estimates. I would still be surprised if Hladky starts the season with us too - rubbish if he goes, but if that adds in a sizeable sum it will hopefully be more than a consolation too. I just have a gut feel that our wage to turnover ratio was higher than it should have been last year given the payoffs and the cost of bringing someone like Hamill in for the short term. I’d be surprised if our wage budget jumps anymore than £100k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, aldo_j said: I just have a gut feel that our wage to turnover ratio was higher than it should have been last year given the payoffs and the cost of bringing someone like Hamill in for the short term. I’d be surprised if our wage budget jumps anymore than £100k. Will there not be any other new income also? (e.g. John McGinn money) Add to this the fact that the following season the new deal kicks in and pays out a lot more... we won't be penny pinching hoping to survive. We will be up and away from the relegation struggles this coming season. (Albeit probably 9th, but possibly 6-8th). That means speculating a bit more than last season - In Oran, Gus and the BOD we trust . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Thinking further ahead, in seasons to come will we be due anything from the sell on fees for Kpekawa & King ? [emoji23] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said: Thinking further ahead, in seasons to come will we be due anything from the sell on fees for Kpekawa & King ? I feckin' hope not. We'd owe a fortune! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Will there not be any other new income also? (e.g. John McGinn money) Add to this the fact that the following season the new deal kicks in and pays out a lot more... we won't be penny pinching hoping to survive. We will be up and away from the relegation struggles this coming season. (Albeit probably 9th, but possibly 6-8th). That means speculating a bit more than last season - In Oran, Gus and the BOD we trust . . . We may have already spent some of the "extra" money digging ourselves out of last season's hole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornwall_Saint Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 53 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said: Thinking further ahead, in seasons to come will we be due anything from the sell on fees for Kpekawa & King ? King needs to find a club first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Juan Mata signs a new 3 year deal. He only had days left on his current deal.Ffs, Fitzy get your finger oot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said: Juan Mata signs a new 3 year deal. He only had days left on his current deal. Ffs, Fitzy get your finger oot. why? were we in with a shout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, herman_munster said: any chance of getting lewis morgan back on loan? Aye, nae chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turrabuddie Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Aye, nae chance. Unfortunately I tend to agree. If he does go on lost I suspect it would be to Dons or Hibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turrabuddie Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Unfortunately I tend to agree. If he does go on lost I suspect it would be to Dons or Hibs.LoanFingers too fat..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 20 hours ago, TPAFKATS said: 21 hours ago, Sweeper07 said: Will there not be any other new income also? (e.g. John McGinn money) Add to this the fact that the following season the new deal kicks in and pays out a lot more... we won't be penny pinching hoping to survive. We will be up and away from the relegation struggles this coming season. (Albeit probably 9th, but possibly 6-8th). That means speculating a bit more than last season - In Oran, Gus and the BOD we trust . . . We may have already spent some of the "extra" money digging ourselves out of last season's hole? We may have, but that will come out in the accounts ! Even if we did, it was surely worth it having survived and staying up...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 We may have, but that will come out in the accounts ! Even if we did, it was surely worth it having survived and staying up...?I'm just saying there might not be as much money as I'd expect we'd have gone over budget last season due to the number of pay offs, including Stubbs and Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 18 hours ago, herman_munster said: any chance of getting lewis morgan back on loan? 18 hours ago, jaybee said: why? were we in with a shout? It is a big no for both ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, TPAFKATS said: 1 hour ago, Sweeper07 said: We may have, but that will come out in the accounts ! Even if we did, it was surely worth it having survived and staying up...? I'm just saying there might not be as much money as I'd expect we'd have gone over budget last season due to the number of pay offs, including Stubbs and Jackson. Why is it folk remember all the negative things on our budget but not the positives like:- 1. We got money for JR & JF 2. We got money for Rice 3. We got money for Smith and Stewart 4. We saved on wages letting Heaton and Eckerley go out on loan (AND others too Breadner etc.) AND the pay-offs were not full contract for the entire term - just the next 3 months or so... I guarantee we will have a much bigger budget for players this coming season . . . Edited June 19, 2019 by Sweeper07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 We had an absolutely massive budget to play with and for David Hay to spend, back in the very early 1990's. Elliot and many others fecked that era up. The less we spend the better, especially in a League we ain't gonnae ever win. Glad I won't be contributing another fecking penny to a corrupt cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 YEAH have the smallest budget and don't try to improve OR survive . . . Ain't it a better idea to spend it wisely on better players and actually complete? What goes on inside your imbecilic brain???? Da... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, shull said: We had an absolutely massive budget to play with and for David Hay to spend, back in the very early 1990's. Elliot and many others fecked that era up. The less we spend the better, especially in a League we ain't gonnae ever win. Glad I won't be contributing another fecking penny to a corrupt cause. Does this mean that you will not be attending any matches at Greenhill Road? If so, will you he removing yourself from the forum and giving us peace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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