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Are you hoping like the previous Smisa rep you can leave Smisa and take up a permanent  role on the St Mirren board?

After all. you do put your role of St Mirren Director over your role of Smisa Director ,as is required by law, so you may as well drop the Smisa role.

OR ,Smisa do not put someone on the St Mirren board and instead have a monthly meeting with the St Mirren board to address supporters criticisms , get stuck into them on their failure to keep supporters up to date   etc

 

ie do what it says  on the tin , Independant Association  !!

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1 hour ago, waldorf34 said:

Are you hoping like the previous Smisa rep you can leave Smisa and take up a permanent  role on the St Mirren board?

After all. you do put your role of St Mirren Director over your role of Smisa Director ,as is required by law, so you may as well drop the Smisa role.

OR ,Smisa do not put someone on the St Mirren board and instead have a monthly meeting with the St Mirren board to address supporters criticisms , get stuck into them on their failure to keep supporters up to date   etc

 

ie do what it says  on the tin , Independant Association  !!

Not sure if he’s on here to answer these questions but my response to this sort of stuff is, it’s not us vs them.

SMISA are independent yes but their goal should be in line with the goals of anyone associated with SMFC. 

Being on the BoD as well, like you say they are duty bound to the good of the company but the good of the company should also be the good of SMISA & fanbase as a whole  

 

 

 

 

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Did he ask you?
Self appointed mouthpiece of the BoD.

Not sure if he’s on here to answer these questions but my response to this sort of stuff is, it’s not us vs them.
SMISA are independent yes but their goal should be in line with the goals of anyone associated with SMFC. 
Being on the BoD as well, like you say they are duty bound to the good of the company but the good of the company should also be the good of SMISA & fanbase as a whole  
 
 
 
 

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5 hours ago, slapsalmon said:

Interesting to note he said the old firm getting the family stand was worth 2 players in January. 

 

Were those 2 players (for 5 months ish each} worth 10% of the seasons playing budget? 

I think you might be suggesting that we paid these two higher wages. That is, we took a risk, a punt if you like. If we did, it paid off. 

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Are you hoping like the previous Smisa rep you can leave Smisa and take up a permanent  role on the St Mirren board?
After all. you do put your role of St Mirren Director over your role of Smisa Director ,as is required by law, so you may as well drop the Smisa role.
OR ,Smisa do not put someone on the St Mirren board and instead have a monthly meeting with the St Mirren board to address supporters criticisms , get stuck into them on their failure to keep supporters up to date   etc
 
ie do what it says  on the tin , Independant Association  !!


Just had a look on the SMISA website, is DR a Director of SMISA?

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18 hours ago, waldorf34 said:

Are you hoping like the previous Smisa rep you can leave Smisa and take up a permanent  role on the St Mirren board?

After all. you do put your role of St Mirren Director over your role of Smisa Director ,as is required by law, so you may as well drop the Smisa role.

OR ,Smisa do not put someone on the St Mirren board and instead have a monthly meeting with the St Mirren board to address supporters criticisms , get stuck into them on their failure to keep supporters up to date   etc

 

ie do what it says  on the tin , Independant Association  !!

A silly suggestion, surely it is far better to be on the inside and see the reality of club management and to have several different SMISA members doing that; can only help long term. IMO anyway.

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13 hours ago, slapsalmon said:

Interesting to note he said the old firm getting the family stand was worth 2 players in January. 

 

Were those 2 players (for 5 months ish each} worth 10% of the seasons playing budget? 

If they were the difference in staying / going down, need you really ask?

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Just now, jaybee said:

If they were the difference in staying / going down, need you really ask?

The point was more tongue in cheek at the previous claim of the family stand for 3 games being worth 10% of the playing budget. I don't believe 2 players for a short spell cost 10% of the playing budget. 

 

I should have said did they cost rather than are they worth. 

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7 minutes ago, slapsalmon said:

The point was more tongue in cheek at the previous claim of the family stand for 3 games being worth 10% of the playing budget. I don't believe 2 players for a short spell cost 10% of the playing budget. 

 

I should have said did they cost rather than are they worth. 

Giving the family stand to the old bigots and kicking the kids out fir three games wont even pay for Josh Heaton's mutual!

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1 hour ago, Lord Pityme said:

Giving the family stand to the old bigots and kicking the kids out fir three games wont even pay for Josh Heaton's mutual!

It will, unless Heaton alone mutual is over 10% of our entire player budget from last season. 

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1 hour ago, St.Ricky said:

The reactions on here spell out clearly why very few people would want to take on this role.

In that interview, Riley talks about communication being the most important part of his job.

I agree.

He mentioned having to communicate with respected people in the game, other directors etc.

3 guesses who he missed out.

That's right - the fans.

A lot of fans are angry because they are hearing absolutely nothing they can trust about why we are struggling to recruit players, what the role of Gus is, how much it is costing us to continually release players, managers, coaching staff, what is happening with the continued problems with the ticketing system, why are we seeing no brand new income streams to bring more money into the club 3 years into Gordon's tenure, what specific plans have been put in place to (correctly) justify talking about top 6, top 4 .....the list is endless.

Maybe if there was better communication from board level during times of difficulty there would be more understanding. They are quite happy to talk when times are good but when they clam up the second things go awry then it's understandable why ordinary fans are getting on their case. Senior managers and board members never seem to get their skulls around this because they are usually too busy trying to save their own necks. That is absolutely what has been going on at the club and THAT deserves to be criticised.

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6 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

In that interview, Riley talks about communication being the most important part of his job.

I agree.

He mentioned having to communicate with respected people in the game, other directors etc.

3 guesses who he missed out.

That's right - the fans.

A lot of fans are angry because they are hearing absolutely nothing they can trust about why we are struggling to recruit players, what the role of Gus is, how much it is costing us to continually release players, managers, coaching staff, what is happening with the continued problems with the ticketing system, why are we seeing no brand new income streams to bring more money into the club 3 years into Gordon's tenure, what specific plans have been put in place to (correctly) justify talking about top 6, top 4 .....the list is endless.

Maybe if there was better communication from board level during times of difficulty there would be more understanding. They are quite happy to talk when times are good but when they clam up the second things go awry then it's understandable why ordinary fans are getting on their case. Senior managers and board members never seem to get their skulls around this because they are usually too busy trying to save their own necks. That is absolutely what has been going on at the club and THAT deserves to be criticised.

This.

classic quotes from the Q&A "changes wont happen overnight, we wont get everything right first time"....

funny because i heard those exact words over three years ago when The Buds were Bought, and we have had over 1000 overnights since then, and still f**k it up!

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24 minutes ago, slapsalmon said:

Or 2 players in January depending which quote from the board you prefer 

Massive amount of spin to think the money only allowed for those two players. He certainly doesn’t say that.

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16 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

In that interview, Riley talks about communication being the most important part of his job.

I agree.

He mentioned having to communicate with respected people in the game, other directors etc.

3 guesses who he missed out.

That's right - the fans.

A lot of fans are angry because they are hearing absolutely nothing they can trust about why we are struggling to recruit players, what the role of Gus is, how much it is costing us to continually release players, managers, coaching staff, what is happening with the continued problems with the ticketing system, why are we seeing no brand new income streams to bring more money into the club 3 years into Gordon's tenure, what specific plans have been put in place to (correctly) justify talking about top 6, top 4 .....the list is endless.

Maybe if there was better communication from board level during times of difficulty there would be more understanding. They are quite happy to talk when times are good but when they clam up the second things go awry then it's understandable why ordinary fans are getting on their case. Senior managers and board members never seem to get their skulls around this because they are usually too busy trying to save their own necks. That is absolutely what has been going on at the club and THAT deserves to be criticised.

Spot on

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1 minute ago, slapsalmon said:

Why would he only mention 2? How many were signed in January? 

Maybe that was the residual budget, I'm pretty sure the income generated from at least three games against them would have been taken into account in the summer. It amounted for a 10% increase in the player budget, GLS confirmed this. 

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7 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

Maybe that was the residual budget, I'm pretty sure the income generated from at least three games against them would have been taken into account in the summer. It amounted for a 10% increase in the player budget, GLS confirmed this. 

Take your nose out his arse for 1 second.

The quote above seems to contradict the 10%.

 

Neither of us know any facts, and the likelihood is we never will, but because GLS said it doesn't make it automatically true. The closest we will get is when the accounts are published. My reckoning is the family stand got nowhere near the 10% increase in playing budget previously mentioned, the 2 players in January is far more believable to me.  Christ you even started your chat on the subject with it being worth 1, maybe 2 max players! 

 

If GLS told you he had a bag full of magic beans you'd believe him FFS

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