bazil85 Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Even Alexa would tell you to bore off. Good comeback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saintss Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Gus must have a good chuckle at this disaster of a thread [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, Wendy Saintss said: Gus must have a good chuckle at this disaster of a thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Why has this thread failed?Awkward [emoji28] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, TopCat said: Why has this thread failed? Awkward Tick-Tock - even more awkward! It's not a binary choice sign poor players early or good players later on in the window - we could've signed some good players early in the window if the DoF had been doing the job our Chairman promised last autumn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 39 minutes ago, TopCat said: Why has this thread failed? Awkward Because someone started a thread on the 21st of July taking issue with our recruitment structure? As ridiculous then as it is now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 35 minutes ago, Bud the Baker said: Tick-Tock - even more awkward! It's not a binary choice sign poor players early or good players later on in the window - we could've signed some good players early in the window if the DoF had been doing the job our Chairman promised last autumn. Very good interview from GLS before the match today. Players were available earlier in the window that we could have signed & they may have done a job this season but better players have better options & sometimes that takes time. They're looking (and achieving i’d Say) to sign more players for longer term gain than just one year contracts & short-term loans & that can be more time consuming at our level. That’s why it’s taken a good bit longer, to provide more assurance. Bottom-line is people have prejudged this window & made absolutely ridiculous claims that recruitment is the reason we couldn’t beat L2 & Lowland league opponents in the league cup. It’s looking more & more likely that yet again GLS is playing an absolute blinder & Gus is earning his wage packet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Much quieter in this thread. Well done Gus and Co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 On 8/1/2019 at 12:16 PM, Danny said: Aarghh!! I want to gauge my own eyes out after reading this soul destroying drivel🤬 I'll lend you my screwdriver when I have finished gouging my own first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 On 8/1/2019 at 3:37 PM, bazil85 said: I’m not an ‘MI guy’ i rely on MI but I work in risk Assurance. I promise you my company get their worth out of me, reliance on other business areas means it’s not unusual for me to be working 10 hour days then signing back in when I get home. Oh come on. Nobody boasts about how many hours they waste working for other people in 2019. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 5 hours ago, cockles1987 said: Are you allowed to boast about the amount of unofficial t-breaks in one shift. Mines 5, with two official and a lunch break in a 8 hour shift. Sorry it's off topic but I'm bored and currently on another break. I have one big t-shift with some small work breaks in between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saintss Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Tick-Tock - even more awkward! It's not a binary choice sign poor players early or good players later on in the window - we could've signed some good players early in the window if the DoF had been doing the job our Chairman promised last autumn. How do you know we could have signed good players early in the window? Would these players have been as good as the players we signed? Was the job that the Chairman promised the DoF would do was to sign the best players possible before the start of the League Cup campaign? It’s not a binary choice, sign all new players before the start of the League Cup campaign and sign none later in the window! We signed 3 players before the start of the League Cup. We lost 3 players from the sides that beat Dundee United (including Kyle McAllister, who has subsequently rejoined). The players that we had should have been good enough to qualify from that League Cup campaign. Rushing in signings to help us qualify from that group shouldn’t have been an issue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Calum Waters has said that it took up to a month to get his loan move through. It just shows that it is not an overnight job to bring players in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, kevo_smfc said: Calum Waters has said that it took up to a month to get his loan move through. It just shows that it is not an overnight job to bring players in. Yeah, Goodwin said the same on his interview. Been trying since he came in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Wendy Saintss said: How do you know we could have signed good players early in the window? Would these players have been as good as the players we signed? Was the job that the Chairman promised the DoF would do was to sign the best players possible before the start of the League Cup campaign? It’s not a binary choice, sign all new players before the start of the League Cup campaign and sign none later in the window! We signed 3 players before the start of the League Cup. We lost 3 players from the sides that beat Dundee United (including Kyle McAllister, who has subsequently rejoined). The players that we had should have been good enough to qualify from that League Cup campaign. Rushing in signings to help us qualify from that group shouldn’t have been an issue! There's always uncertainties about the quality of players a club like Saints can sign ultimately it comes down to the amount of money the BoD (effectively GLS atm) - if you look back at 2016/17 (Great Escape Mk. 1) you'll see the wage bill was significantly higher than the previous season (which also included a management pay-off) and I suspect this years report (2018/19) will be interesting although with the club being in a different division a like-for-like comparison with the previous season isn't relevant, We should have had two lists ready for the DoF/Manager to work on after the play-offs in May and we should have already made preliminary enquiries beforehand. I still think we didn't have enough quality players, bedded into the team to assume we should have qualified for the knockout stages of the LC and that arguing otherwise is the same sort of arrogance some Aberdeen fans showed yesterday in the aftermath of our game - that even using squad players to freshen up a team who had played midweek and were missing their main striker should still have been good enough to beat us. As @kevo_smfc says deals often take awhile to complete these days, all the more reason for the DoF to get started early, as I said above it comes down to the money that GLS is prepared to sanction and had the 2 year deals (3 for McAllister) we've seen since JG arrived were being offered earlier on in the window I'm sure we could've completed deals in time for the LC. ********************** I listened to the same BBC report @bazil85 did and interpreted it as GLS trying to bluff us that it had been the plan all along. It's clear that the DoF role as described by GLS last autumn didn't worked this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 A bit of commonsense is required here to think this through. Firstly, I am not buying into any nonsense that we needed new players to have qualified from the group stage of the Cup. Secondly, do we agree that the best players in our budget range will have options which mean they will take much longer to recruit. If we accept that, we have to accept that we hire these guys in later than we'd like. That sounds perfectly reasonable to me. The Cup was a f**kup. No doubt. We could however quite easily have been sitting on 4 pts today had we held out vs Hibs. There should be no doom and gloom on this forum right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, oaksoft said: A bit of commonsense is required here to think this through. Firstly, I am not buying into any nonsense that we needed new players to have qualified from the group stage of the Cup. Secondly, do we agree that the best players in our budget range will have options which mean they will take much longer to recruit. If we accept that, we have to accept that we hire these guys in later than we'd like. That sounds perfectly reasonable to me. The Cup was a f**kup. No doubt. We could however quite easily have been sitting on 4 pts today had we held out vs Hibs. There should be no doom and gloom on this forum right now. Good post. but... 6 points today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, antrin said: . 6 points today? ? Lost me there antrim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, oaksoft said: A bit of commonsense is required here to think this through. Firstly, I am not buying into any nonsense that we needed new players to have qualified from the group stage of the Cup. Secondly, do we agree that the best players in our budget range will have options which mean they will take much longer to recruit. If we accept that, we have to accept that we hire these guys in later than we'd like. That sounds perfectly reasonable to me. The Cup was a f**kup. No doubt. We could however quite easily have been sitting on 4 pts today had we held out vs Hibs. There should be no doom and gloom on this forum right now. As we could have been sitting on 1 point had Aberdeen equalised. Things are what they are, not what people change them into. You do know Steven Gerrard said Rangers would have won the league had games only lasted 86 minutes, how stupid does that sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, oaksoft said: ? Lost me there antrim. You’re right. Sorry. My eternal, unbounded optimism about St Mirren had already translated the Hibs last minute goal into an equaliser, which... er.... it wasn’t. Also... You still can’t spell, I see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, faraway saint said: As we could have been sitting on 1 point had Aberdeen equalised. Things are what they are, not what people change them into. You do know Steven Gerrard said Rangers would have won the league had games only lasted 86 minutes, how stupid does that sound? My day is not complete until some nugget mansplains things like this to me. 🤣 Are you Ricky in disguise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, oaksoft said: My day is not complete until some nugget mansplains things like this to me. 🤣 Are you Ricky in disguise? Reported, no need for that level of abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, antrin said: You’re right. Sorry. My eternal, unbounded optimism about St Mirren had already translated the Hibs last minute goal into an equaliser, which... er.... it wasn’t. Also... You still can’t spell, I see... Are you sure I can't or is it that I won't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 8 hours ago, oaksoft said: Oh come on. Nobody boasts about how many hours they waste working for other people in 2019. 🤣 7 hours ago, cockles1987 said: Are you allowed to boast about the amount of unofficial t-breaks in one shift. Mines 5, with two official and a lunch break in a 8 hour shift. Sorry it's off topic but I'm bored and currently on another break. What’s a tea break? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Bud the Baker said: There's always uncertainties about the quality of players a club like Saints can sign ultimately it comes down to the amount of money the BoD (effectively GLS atm) - if you look back at 2016/17 (Great Escape Mk. 1) you'll see the wage bill was significantly higher than the previous season (which also included a management pay-off) and I suspect this years report (2018/19) will be interesting although with the club being in a different division a like-for-like comparison with the previous season isn't relevant, We should have had two lists ready for the DoF/Manager to work on after the play-offs in May and we should have already made preliminary enquiries beforehand. I still think we didn't have enough quality players, bedded into the team to assume we should have qualified for the knockout stages of the LC and that arguing otherwise is the same sort of arrogance some Aberdeen fans showed yesterday in the aftermath of our game - that even using squad players to freshen up a team who had played midweek and were missing their main striker should still have been good enough to beat us. As @kevo_smfc says deals often take awhile to complete these days, all the more reason for the DoF to get started early, as I said above it comes down to the money that GLS is prepared to sanction and had the 2 year deals (3 for McAllister) we've seen since JG arrived were being offered earlier on in the window I'm sure we could've completed deals in time for the LC. ********************** I listened to the same BBC report @bazil85 did and interpreted it as GLS trying to bluff us that it had been the plan all along. It's clear that the DoF role as described by GLS last autumn didn't worked this summer. He’s tried to ‘bluff’ that we appear to have a very strong squad, most of which on two or three year contracts? Whats your basis specifically for the DoF role not working this summer? Gus job is not only the identifying or players personally but the review of players the management team identify to determine if fit for purpose. Seems like it’s worked a blinder for the second window in a row to me Edited August 12, 2019 by bazil85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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