norrie82 Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 I understand money talks , I just wish for once that we could keep building the momentum we have at present and see our the season. We can do something special this year and Jim is supposed to be St Mirren through and through. I know he’s a Celtic fan initially but his character and his status as cup winning captain and someone who’d run thro a brick wall makes me hope that he might stay and finish the job he has here. Can we offer him a better deal? is it wrong that whilst I know it doesn’t happen a lot that we might be able to compete at the right end and maybe get to Hampden ? Is it wrong to think saints could become a very stable middle table to top half side for a while? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northstbuddie Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Reminiscent of the euphoria of promotion era dashed by JR's premature departure. Just as we are looking forward to a top 6 finish (at least) this season - now is the time for our manager to walk away! The king is dead - long live the king! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Just spotted Alex Rae in Asda Linwood. 😬 Had to point out the bit he’d missed when cleaning the bogs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truesaint Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Absolutely nothing wrong with being keen to talk to them to see what they are offering before saying "Nah you are alright but cheers anyway" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, elvis said: Obviously not if he wants to talk to them. You take interviews in order to get experience at interviews, so that you perform better in an interview when an interesting interview rolls along, in due course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Now here’s a thought . Goody takes the Job and gets McGrath on loan next season 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maboza Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Seems to be picking up momentum in the news stories according to the Daily Record. The papers love this feeding frenzy around a manager vacancy and gives them the opportunity to engage at least 2 sets of fans compared to the usual daily irrelevance of their newspapers. I’m keeping an open mind and not taking anything as gospel for now. I still struggle to see how Goodwin would be a standout 1st choice for Aberdeen. I do remember Willie Miller raving about how we played against them a couple of times up at Pittodrie. Pretty sure we lost 1 and drew 1 of those games. Funny old game if that’s what has stuck in their mind as a couple of games of high pressing, possession football (not exactly the norm over the extended course of Goodwin’s reign) with us ultimately not getting a result. I can imagine that they want to talk to Goodwin + others. I reckon that has led to this standoff to force Aberdeen to agree the money is available rather than us bend over. If Goodwin is showing interest then that’s only to be expected to play to his own strengths in this position. Whether he’s genuinely interested in moving now or not, he’d be daft not to play his cards to try and get a better deal out of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LargsBud Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 I hope we can match whatever Aberdeen are going to offer him financially. In terms of playing budget he'd have at his disposal thats obviously impossible, but I'd like to think we could push the boat out and at least match the personal terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LargsBud Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 24 minutes ago, Ronnie said: No surprise if he does leave after his part in Danny Lennon's departure. Sent from my T671H using Tapatalk Ffs. You don't need to be bitter about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, LargsBud said: I hope we can match whatever Aberdeen are going to offer him financially. In terms of playing budget he'd have at his disposal thats obviously impossible, but I'd like to think we could push the boat out and at least match the personal terms. Match the personal terms Aberdeen can offer him? You for real? 😅 They will triple his salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Well least we know if he does leave and we lose momentum the forum will got back to numerous threads of kibble slating🍿😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LargsBud Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, JJ McG said: Match the personal terms Aberdeen can offer him? You for real? 😅 They will triple his salary. I read somewhere a while ago that Glass was on 500k (don't know if its true or not) Goodwin is on around 350-400k so not a million miles off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, LargsBud said: I read somewhere a while ago that Glass was on 500k (don't know if its true or not) Goodwin is on around 350-400k so not a million miles off. Goodwin isn’t on anywhere near that, you’re miles off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northstbuddie Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Irrespective of the final outcome of this fiasco, we can only hope this does not interrupt the current momentum of the team. It is significant also that 3 of the front runners for the Aberdeen job have strong St Mirren connections. We must be doing something right - other than holding on to our managers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maboza Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, LargsBud said: I hope we can match whatever Aberdeen are going to offer him financially. In terms of playing budget he'd have at his disposal thats obviously impossible, but I'd like to think we could push the boat out and at least match the personal terms. There’s absolutely no chance we can match what they will pay a manager. We should think smart on what bonuses we can offer. If each league position is worth £80k from memory, why don’t we offer £8-10k for 6th place and the same again for every place above. That gives a realistic, achievable incentive of £24-30k to go after between now and the end of season. Chuck in another £10k for delivering European football. That would test his ambition. If he could do achieve that then he would be the best performing Saints manager since the early 80’s. Incidentally, if (and I don’t expect it to happen) we win against Livi and Dundee in the next 2 games - Goodwin would have us going into the Hearts home game with an opportunity close the gap to 3rd to 5 points at most. Possibly less if Hearts don’t beat St.Johnstone at the weekend. St. Mirren have backed him. He now has the opportunity to do something really special - and to rectify the disappointment of the 2 lost semi finals and missed top 6 last year. Question is will he back himself to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, LargsBud said: I read somewhere a while ago that Glass was on 500k (don't know if its true or not) Goodwin is on around 350-400k so not a million miles off. More like 400k over the length of the three and a half year deal he signed. If he was on 400k a year we'd be looking at the ballpark of £1m in compensation from Aberdeen. £250k basically gives away what he's on with us. £250k over the next two and a bit years puts him squarely in the ballpark of being paid £2k a week as manager. He'll jump onto £6k per week at Aberdeen, several times what he ever made as a player, without even negotiating hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Maboza said: There’s absolutely no chance we can match what they will pay a manager. We should think smart on what bonuses we can offer. If each league position is worth £80k from memory, why don’t we offer £8-10k for 6th place and the same again for every place above. That gives a realistic, achievable incentive of £24-30k to go after between now and the end of season. Chuck in another £10k for delivering European football. That would test his ambition. If he could do achieve that then he would be the best performing Saints manager since the early 80’s. Incidentally, if (and I don’t expect it to happen) we win against Livi and Dundee in the next 2 games - Goodwin would have us going into the Hearts home game with an opportunity close the gap to 3rd to 5 points at most. Possibly less if Hearts don’t beat St.Johnstone at the weekend. St. Mirren have backed him. He now has the opportunity to do something really special - and to rectify the disappointment of the 2 lost semi finals and missed top 6 last year. Question is will he back himself to do that. Nope he will be off like a shot.and our season will go down the pan starting on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, elvis said: Nope he will be off like a shot.and our season will go down the pan starting on Saturday. You constantly thought our season was going down the pan even with him as manager. What will it take for you to actually show a bit of optimism for once? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 Big Eck the man for Aberdeen , there in the glory days . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie82 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 34 minutes ago, JJ McG said: Goodwin isn’t on anywhere near that, you’re miles off. I’d reckon Jim could be on 100k. I remember in 2010 Gus being on more can you believe. I’d be surprised if Glass was on anything near 500k tho. I’d think he might have been around 175/200 k ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 It’s a funny old game fitba/fitba management. In almost every other job that you or I might do, if you were going for another interview, your employer and your staff wouldn’t know about it until after you’d accepted the other job. That’s generally because you know you’d be tainted in the eyes of your employer if you didn’t get the other job and had to come back with your tail between your legs. For me if JG goes for the job, I hope for his sake he gets it because I reckon at least 50% of the support will have it in for him if he doesn’t. Fingers crossed he just comes out and says he’s not interested but I cannae see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 He will be off if offered the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainstand Sweary Mob Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 He will be off if offered the jobThat's what annoys me. We are doing well. Aberdeen are out the Scottish cup, we are not.They have been f**king dire and their defence and their keeper are f**king terrible.Though having like the 3rd highest budget in the league and looking to come at least 3rd and win cups, they are below us. He would be best to wait. Get us to our highest finish in the premiership and become more of a club legend. If you don't build an entertaining team there, they will be at you. If you don't progress in the cups, they will be at you. If you don't finish 3rd, they will be at you. How long has McInnes been without a job? They pay that much that you can sit that long without a job when sacked in a year's time for not delivering all that for them. Or is it best to let him go and destroy them from the inside as with a bigger and better budget, do you think he will try that 3 at the back pish for them to send them down ? [emoji1787]Sent from my IN2023 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mainstand Sweary Mob said: That's what annoys me. We are doing well. Aberdeen are out the Scottish cup, we are not. They have been f**king dire and their defence and their keeper are f**king terrible. Though having like the 3rd highest budget in the league and looking to come at least 3rd and win cups, they are below us. He would be best to wait. Get us to our highest finish in the premiership and become more of a club legend. If you don't build an entertaining team there, they will be at you. If you don't progress in the cups, they will be at you. If you don't finish 3rd, they will be at you. How long has McInnes been without a job? They pay that much that you can sit that long without a job when sacked in a year's time for not delivering all that for them. Or is it best to let him go and destroy them from the inside as with a bigger and better budget, do you think he will try that 3 at the back pish for them to send them down ? Sent from my IN2023 using Tapatalk Whoever takes on the Aberdeen job has a potential avoid relegation job on their hands this season. and build for next season if that's avoided (never went well for killie). It's never an overnight job to turn a clubs fortunes. Money does speak, though I'd like to think what you have referenced is enough for Jim to hold out for better success with us this season, raising his stock at the end of the season. A strong finish may even make him consider staying a little longer. Jack Ross left early, though as the same with Jim, there was an opportunity to make life changing money. The difference from my opinion, is the size of a club Sunderland are, tripling his wages and with the potential to take the club to the English Championship. It really was too good an offer to turn down, considering they were an EPL team only 2-3 years previously. Our clubs ambitions match Jims and at times, we may not be able to stretch further in our budget, I think he has been given great resources to build the squad he has ended up with this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 9 hours ago, LargsBud said: I read somewhere a while ago that Glass was on 500k (don't know if its true or not) Goodwin is on around 350-400k so not a million miles off. McInnes was certainly on that type of salary, though I'm sure (only my thoughts) that he would have been easier to negotiate a lesser contract, due to it being his first proper managerial position. As mentioned elsewhere, the figures you have quoted are more that of his earnings throughout the length of his contract rather than per season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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