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The "original point" was being unable to choose to believe something, not being unable to choose a "belief" if, by belief, you mean religion.
You are now changing things even further.
Who mentioned religion?

If I choose to believe something then it becomes my belief!

It is my current belief that you are at the madame... Baiting and spinning! [emoji41]
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35 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

Anyone managed to consciously choose to change a belief yet?

 

C'mon, you've had ages to do it. :whistle

Aye, I’m a Jedi now.

I believe in the balance of the Force, midichlorians, and that George Lucas was the prophet sent from a galaxy far, far away. 

The Disney side of it is a pile of utter shite though. Definitely not real.

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2 hours ago, Slartibartfast said:

Anyone managed to consciously choose to change a belief yet?

 

C'mon, you've had ages to do it. :whistle

I've chose not to read any more of this shite, and another couple of threads................................does that count? 

Also chose to stick the forum fool on ignore, THAT'S a good choice. 

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There's a few. :wink:
Who are these bounders?

Surely nobody would engage them in conversation?

I once saw a guy heckle Roger de Corsie...

Nookie bear asked him his name.

He answered.

"How long have you been talking to stuffed toys?" Asked Nookie Bear (although I suspect Roger may have been prompting him!)

Game set and match.

Mamma says never try and engage someone in intelligent conversation when they are easily distracted by belly button fluff or the dying need to have the last word! [emoji12]

She be wise be Mamma.

There be a lot of fluff pickers out there!FB_IMG_1568652727304.jpeg
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5 hours ago, BuddieinEK said:

You are now changing things even further.
Who mentioned religion?

If I choose to believe something then it becomes my belief!

It is my current belief that you are at the madame... Baiting and spinning! emoji41.png

Waste of time trying to explain BEK. 

No argument is going to have him change his belief. 

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6 hours ago, Slartibartfast said:

The "original point" was being unable to choose to believe something, not being unable to choose a "belief" if, by belief, you mean religion.

What on earth are you wittering on about?

I don't think you have the faintest idea what you mean here.

I reckon BEK is right. You are fishing. :D

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6 hours ago, Slartibartfast said:

1) I never changed anything, I only clarified.

2) Well, before shull started fannying about, the thread title mentioned religion - in fact, IIRC, it was just "Religion" though it may have been something like "The Religion Thread".

3) You are smuggling in "choose" as you have not demonstrated that it is possible to choose to believe something.

4) I'm not baiting or spinning at all.  Can you show where I have done that?

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My position all along has been that you cannot consciously choose to believe something - if you know something, then you cannot consciously choose to believe otherwise, no matter how hard you try or how much you want to.

If you have a sheet of white paper in front of you, and you know that it's white (i.e. you're not blind, there is light, etc), then you cannot choose to believe that it is any other colour.  You can choose to act as if you believe that it is another colour, but that is not believing.

By your own admission you have no evidence to back that assertion.

Therefore, you either need to find some evidence or accept that we can't proceed and that your opinion has no more validity than ours.

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4 hours ago, Slartibartfast said:

I thought that I would give everyone some time to try it.  Obviously nobody did.  Or maybe they just failed and didn't acknowledge the fact on here.

I think it's fairer to say that nobody has the faintest idea what you are talking about. :lol:

IOBS makes more sense when he is drunk on a Saturday night.

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