Russian Saint Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 At a time where sectarianism has been highlighted again in Scottish football, is it any wonder when sectarian marches are allowed on the streets of Scotland.It may be said that the “Irish Unity” march wasn’t sectarian, but the authorities must have known this was a potential powder keg.What that march has to do with Scotland I’ve no idea.It’s time all of these marches are banned in Scotland, Irish loyalist (Orange Order, Apprentice Boys) and republican equivalents. They have no place in today’s society IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Going to be an eventful weekend with this and a bigot face off on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-49526876 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 6 hours ago, Russian Saint said: At a time where sectarianism has been highlighted again in Scottish football, is it any wonder when sectarian marches are allowed on the streets of Scotland. It may be said that the “Irish Unity” march wasn’t sectarian, but the authorities must have known this was a potential powder keg. What that march has to do with Scotland I’ve no idea. It’s time all of these marches are banned in Scotland, Irish loyalist (Orange Order, Apprentice Boys) and republican equivalents. They have no place in today’s society IMO. I don't like sectarianism in any form. I do have a dilemma though when it comes to maintaining the right to free assembly which is important in a democracy and selectively withdrawing it from groups. The present divided Ireland was a construct brought about by years of emigration to the North of Ireland by firstly, English land owners and later Scots joined by a common factor and that was that they were not Catholic. I find it not surprising in the least that the people of Ireland, and those in the wider diaspora, would advocate for reunification. On the other hand the export of Orangeism from the North of Ireland found fertile ground as a wave of Irish immigrants arrived to boost the workforce in Scotland. I agree that the tensions created have lasted long enough and are past their sell by date for most of us. People in the UK and Scotland have views on a number of political issues throughout the world, many caused by the division of other parts of the world by the UK and other big powers which overrode local realities to create states which would better suit our interests. Its now bite us in the bum time in many of these. Brexit is again highlighting the Irish question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 At a time where sectarianism has been highlighted again in Scottish football, is it any wonder when sectarian marches are allowed on the streets of Scotland.It may be said that the “Irish Unity” march wasn’t sectarian, but the authorities must have known this was a potential powder keg.What that march has to do with Scotland I’ve no idea.It’s time all of these marches are banned in Scotland, Irish loyalist (Orange Order, Apprentice Boys) and republican equivalents. They have no place in today’s society IMO.Whilst I agree in principle, how can you LEGALLY ban them but not Independence or Gay Pride marches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said: 8 hours ago, Russian Saint said: At a time where sectarianism has been highlighted again in Scottish football, is it any wonder when sectarian marches are allowed on the streets of Scotland. It may be said that the “Irish Unity” march wasn’t sectarian, but the authorities must have known this was a potential powder keg. What that march has to do with Scotland I’ve no idea. It’s time all of these marches are banned in Scotland, Irish loyalist (Orange Order, Apprentice Boys) and republican equivalents. They have no place in today’s society IMO. Whilst I agree in principle, how can you LEGALLY ban them but not Independence or Gay Pride marches? Surely if there is a history of troubles at those matches or any other kind, that should be enough to ban them in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Surely if there is a history of troubles at those matches or any other kind, that should be enough to ban them in the future. Legal presidence would suggest no, that alone is not enough. Might be logical, but it's not legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 They could be told that they are allowed to have just one march per year, not multiple.If you really want to piss them off, tell them they can have one march, in December (no, not a march in March), limit it to 20 people, 1/2 a mile, 20 minutes between 2am and 2:30am, no music (due to the time of day) etc.Reminds me of the spitting image sketch...F.W. de Klerk... Stating to the masses that the whites and the blacks will share the beaches 50-50!He then adds..."WE will have the beaches when the tide is OUT... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 hours ago, shull said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-49526876 Very easy to find the ring leaders as they plastered all their intentions all over social media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 26 minutes ago, windae cleaner said: Very easy to find the ring leaders as they plastered all their intentions all over social media Sat behind one on Shieldhall Road yesterday. His Private Reg number spells out his nickname. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Tommy said: Surely if there is a history of troubles at those matches or any other kind, that should be enough to ban them in the future. You would have to distinguish whether the trouble was caused by the marchers or those who want to deny them the right to march. A big can of worms. Quite simply. The law, quite correctly, allows for peaceful demonstrations. The Irish reunification march may have underlying religious traits but that is less clear than the orange walk. I suspect the authorities would never deny their walks so it would be wrong to deny those demonstrating their support for one Ireland the right to assemble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 From the little interest I have in this, it looks as though the march was a permitted, peaceful one and that all trouble was initiated by those blocking the road to prevent its progress. I guess those troublemakers would be miffed if anyone tried to block a lawful orange walk? Its easy to distinguish the trouble makers, in this case. A minority used to freedom of expression for their point of view is suddenly, understandably, feeling they are under threat. Their freedoms for sectarian expression have been eroded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 See what happens when you stop them singing...………………..🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 The fleg waving British nationalists seem empowered these days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 A few sympathisers of IRA child murdering terrorists on the go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Strange thing to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleySaint Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 You're quite correct Ricky, they didn't just murder children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 https://mobile.twitter.com/BjCruickshank/status/1167764631667924993 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 hours ago, stlucifer said: You would have to distinguish whether the trouble was caused by the marchers or those who want to deny them the right to march. A big can of worms. Quite simply. The law, quite correctly, allows for peaceful demonstrations. The Irish reunification march may have underlying religious traits but that is less clear than the orange walk. I suspect the authorities would never deny their walks so it would be wrong to deny those demonstrating their support for one Ireland the right to assemble. Surely if they are demonstrating their right for one Ireland, they would have a better chance of getting what they want if the walk was in Ireland. For what its worth, my view is nobody should be matching/walking on the public roads. Have the demo etc in places like public parks so the general public and business can go about their normal stuff without the hassle road closures bring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Why do they need to be on the streets of Scotland .. Their Demos , Propaganda and vile bile is heard and seen in FOOTBALL STADIUMS every week of every season . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delpierro Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 The Ulster Protestant Scots, a friendless and dispicable people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 The Ulster Protestant Scots, a friendless and dispicable people Have they shortened it just The People? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 What about the general public that want to use the park?Plenty more parks in the country [emoji16] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted September 1, 2019 Report Share Posted September 1, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Tommy said: Surely if they are demonstrating their right for one Ireland, they would have a better chance of getting what they want if the walk was in Ireland. For what its worth, my view is nobody should be matching/walking on the public roads. Have the demo etc in places like public parks so the general public and business can go about their normal stuff without the hassle road closures bring. I think the word "public" is the important part of your post. Edited September 1, 2019 by stlucifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted September 1, 2019 Report Share Posted September 1, 2019 45 minutes ago, stlucifer said: I think the word "public" is the important part of your post. Fair comment but being there is better than the roads i reckon. Needless to say, who was the idiot who give the ok for this, an Irish walk, in Govan on a Friday night, 2 days before a bigot game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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