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6 minutes ago, delpierro said:

I said at the end of last season, if we think our defence is SPL standard, we are only fooling ourselves.
I still stand by that post.

We have, arguably improved our defence by bringing in Waters, Broadfoot and Maglaughlan. Losing Popesco was a blow. 

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2 hours ago, beyond our ken said:

Mehmet was really a midfielder who was played up front because of his size.  All Gus ever seemed to want from him was to play with defenders on his back and hold the ball up (for no apparent reason as we rarely had anyone capable of arriving late and taking advantage).  He took an awful lot of stick from some quarters because he was willing to play however the manager asked.

He was the perfect partner for Andy Dornan .

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We need to start scoring goals - if Mcginn is fit get him in the starting 11 v Hamilton. Play our two wingers from the start and go for it. Need to start believing in ourselves a bit more. Played decent in a lot of games and have hee-haw to show for it.

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2 hours ago, St.Ricky said:

We have, arguably improved our defence by bringing in Waters, Broadfoot and Maglaughlan. Losing Popesco was a blow. 

Not seen anything to suggest Waters and McLoughlin are improvements yet.

What type of an effort to spell McLoughlin was that anyway, Ricky?Hang your head in shame.

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1 hour ago, Dare said:

We need to start scoring goals - if Mcginn is fit get him in the starting 11 v Hamilton. Play our two wingers from the start and go for it. Need to start believing in ourselves a bit more. Played decent in a lot of games and have hee-haw to show for it.

McGinn has been honking for over a year..no folk on here think he is Ronaldo..one game back he will be back to being pish!

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3 hours ago, St.Ricky said:

We have, arguably improved our defence by bringing in Waters, Broadfoot and Maglaughlan. Losing Popesco was a blow. 

Not sure Ricky granted its only five games in already we have conceded more goals than any other team in the league. 

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9 hours ago, Kemp said:

Mullen puts the ball in the net. These guys don't.

It's pretty clear who to start if we want to start picking up points.

Mullen puts the ball in the net about 7 times a season on average (including 1 season where he scored 14 goals in League 1 - he' also only scored 1 goal in a season at Championship level, and another Championship season banging in 4 goals).

 

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1 hour ago, Kemp said:

Not seen anything to suggest Waters and McLoughlin are improvements yet.

What type of an effort to spell McLoughlin was that anyway, Ricky?Hang your head in shame.

I can't spell my own name let alone McLoughlin. I guess my case rests on our goal difference column which compares favourably with other teams around us Kemp. Of the teams in the bottom six we are only behind Ross County who are on - 2. We are - 3.,Others are worse. I think we don't defend well enough from the front and still don't pick up runners from midfield as we could. 

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7 hours ago, beyond our ken said:

Mehmet was really a midfielder who was played up front because of his size.  All Gus ever seemed to want from him was to play with defenders on his back and hold the ball up (for no apparent reason as we rarely had anyone capable of arriving late and taking advantage).  He took an awful lot of stick from some quarters because he was willing to play however the manager asked.

I had a lot of time for Mehmet. He was absolutely gash for the first two seasons, but after Sutton left he seemed to thrive. He wasn’t a prolific scorer, but a lot of that was down to what you say above, being the guy holding the ball. He’d end up wide because no one else gave the ball carrier an option, and his confidence on the ball grew massively to the point he was taking the piss out of defenders. He came a very long way during his time with us, scored some massive goals (Championship winners against Dundee and Stranraer, the equaliser at ‘Well, the semi final winner, the penalty v Celtic to win the quarter final in the other cup) and for many of us, is probably the only Saints player we’ve seen score 5 in one game. 

We also have to remember he was partnered by the likes of Jim Hamilton and Dennis Wyness, which isn’t really overly helpful. Still now Billy is one of my favourite ex-players, his effort was top notch and his development with us was fantastic.

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2 hours ago, paul torfason said:

A do believe mcalister not or refusing to track back or cover,doesn't help our team,we conceding space and crosses from our right side of park,goody must tell him to get his arse in gear and help team out

Looking like a luxury we absolutely cannot afford at present. Ego? Manager's instructions? Unfit? 

2 hours ago, Cornwall_Saint said:

I had a lot of time for Mehmet.

Some people gave him, Higdon & Thompson stick. We were very lucky to have 3 very good strikers in succession and it's no coincidence we reguarly succeeded with these three (ST's final injury-ravaged season aside).

How we could do with a Billy Mehmet now!

5 hours ago, Kemp said:

Not seen anything to suggest Waters and McLoughlin are improvements yet.

What type of an effort to spell McLoughlin was that anyway, Ricky?Hang your head in shame.

Waters offers little going forward and looks a little lacking in physicality.

Baird would be thrown to the wolves for making the mistakes McLoughlin is making at present too.

On current showing I would welcome Baird back with open arms as Broadfoot didn't offer much stability yesterday either!

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6 hours ago, W6Saint said:

Looking like a luxury we absolutely cannot afford at present. Ego? Manager's instructions? Unfit? 

Some people gave him, Higdon & Thompson stick. We were very lucky to have 3 very good strikers in succession and it's no coincidence we reguarly succeeded with these three (ST's final injury-ravaged season aside).

How we could do with a Billy Mehmet now!

Waters offers little going forward and looks a little lacking in physicality.

Baird would be thrown to the wolves for making the mistakes McLoughlin is making at present too.

On current showing I would welcome Baird back with open arms as Broadfoot didn't offer much stability yesterday either!

We lost by a goal scored in the final minute of extra time. We hit the woodwork twice and had a goal disallowed. We have a better goal difference than all of the bottom six teams other than.. Ross County who are at - 2 with us at - 3 courtesy of the late goal. We are in a pack of teams which are low in points, not detached. It's right to point to improvements that can be made but too early yet to get too down. 

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7 hours ago, W6Saint said:

Looking like a luxury we absolutely cannot afford at present. Ego? Manager's instructions? Unfit? 

McAllister is permanently injured! He has explained it in interviews that his groin can flare up at anytime. Operations havent helped, Specialists have been unable to tell him why? Other than perhaps its because he played too much football as a youngster?

we know he can play a bit, but as yet he has never had ONE full season as a professional. We paid allegedly, our highest fee for decades to bring him back having sold him knowing his fitness issues.... was this the best use of those funds? If we cant get a season out of him, have we snookered ourselves?

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8 hours ago, W6Saint said:

Some people gave him, Higdon & Thompson stick. We were very lucky to have 3 very good strikers in succession and it's no coincidence we reguarly succeeded with these three (ST's final injury-ravaged season aside).

How we could do with a Billy Mehmet now!

Agreed, Higdon took a lot of abuse as well. He was our most prolific striker since Sutton - sometimes the best goalscorers are the ones who don’t play like Mehmet, and just stick to being in the goalscoring position. Kris Boyd was another example of this, he made a career out of goal poaching.

Thommo was a great signing until the injury came in. As you say, these were three of our best strikers in recent years.

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As has been posted elsewhere sub standard recruitment in the summer has left us struggling.
Goodwin is a good manager and I trust he will get the best out of what we have.
I hope to see Broadfoot, McGinn and Mullen start next week as a stronger spine of the team. A few players in the current line up are not up to the task.


The negative boo boy just can’t stop himself!

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2 hours ago, Lord Pityme said:

McAllister is permanently injured! He has explained it in interviews that his groin can flare up at anytime. Operations havent helped, Specialists have been unable to tell him why? Other than perhaps its because he played too much football as a youngster?

we know he can play a bit, but as yet he has never had ONE full season as a professional. We paid allegedly, our highest fee for decades to bring him back having sold him knowing his fitness issues.... was this the best use of those funds? If we cant get a season out of him, have we snookered ourselves?

What an absolute train wreck of a post. More unfounded nonsense with possibly the most ridiculous comment since ‘Oran Kearney might be choosing the most expensive possible commute available for a daily trip to Ireland’ 

The experts don’t know but LPM has cracked it. Mccalisters injury is due to him playing too much football 🤣

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On 9/14/2019 at 11:22 PM, St.Ricky said:

Difficult to tell but the assistant referee was well positioned. Very slow to raise his flag however. Did he have doubts? 

The linesman didn't flag when the ball was struck towards the goal.

If the linesman felt at that moment the player was offside that was when he should have raised his flag. 

That is his job.

The officials keep telling us they can only make decisions on what they see.

And the only thing the linesman saw was  4 or 5 irate Ross County players rushing towards him.

The lineman then believed he had made a mistake by not flagging and he believed he was correcting that mistake with his very late flag.

As the TV showed it was a very difficult decision to make, but the linesman, I believe, by not raising his flag earlier had not seen our player in an offside position, and it turned out his initial reaction was correct. Our player was not offside.

 

  

 

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2 hours ago, bazil85 said:

What an absolute train wreck of a post. More unfounded nonsense with possibly the most ridiculous comment since ‘Oran Kearney might be choosing the most expensive possible commute available for a daily trip to Ireland’ 

The experts don’t know but LPM has cracked it. Mccalisters injury is due to him playing too much football 🤣

Oh dear... its another "10% playing budget" moment for Baz & Co..! Just admit you onow absolutely f**k all and crack on lol!

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/st-mirren-star-kyle-mcallister-14110761

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