Ross County v Saints, Sat 14th September

[bazil85]

25 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

Oh dear... its another "10% playing budget" moment for Baz & Co..! Just admit you onow absolutely f**k all and crack on lol!

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/st-mirren-star-kyle-mcallister-14110761

As usual you have taken a small aspect of a story and applied your own warped negative spin to it.

Mccalister says “I think it’s because I played so much when I was younger. I played a lot of football with a sore groin”

LPM interprets that as “played too much football as a youngster” absolutely no mention of the undiagnosed condition.

Goodwin said on return of Mccalister “Our duty to manage him properly and make sure he STAYS FULLY FIT”

LPM says based on a six month old story “Mccalister is permanently injured”

Absolutely zero official sources online and hardly a whisper of the fee heard from anywhere else.

LPM on probably little more than a pub conversation (if that) goes with a higher fee than Heaton and our highest fee in “decades” how many decades? Is it zero?

We can chalk this one down to your trolling and general lack of awareness at what’s going on. I’ll put it right under the 400-500 season tickets down one. (Still waiting for an admittance that was wrong by the way)

[Lord Pityme]

Dont you just love it whe Bazil is Beelin..!

[bazil85]

31 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

Dont you just love it whe Bazil is Beelin..!

Just pointing out yet another point you've been wrong on. You should be used to it by now. 

[Sweeper07]

On 9/14/2019 at 10:09 PM, Isle Of Bute Saint said:

We will struggle to stay in the league we carry hee haw up front. That me fellow buds is the bottom line. Still love Jim Goodwin but we will struggle to stay in the league today confirmed that. Sad, sad , sad. 

A bit dramatic considering we are a team just recently thrown together, and only played a few games so far... the strikers have not been missing a barrel load of chances, just a few. We need to give them more chances and goals will come.

On 9/15/2019 at 1:05 PM, Russian Saint said:

 We defended well against Hibs, Aberdeen and SEVCO but not against Livi and Ross County.

I agree that we have a problem scoring goals. I’ve watched all but yesterday’s league game on TV and I don’t believe the strikers are getting good service. Against the lesser teams I’d have McAllister and Durmus on from the start to give us width and pace and hopefully more of an attacking threat. When you have players like that running from the wings and beating opposition players, it then pulls their players out of position to cover, thus creating more space in the box for strikers. We seem to be happy to pass the ball around from the halfway line to the opponents 18 yard line thus congesting the final 3rd. 🤷🏼‍♂️

 

Excellent post. Strikers are not getting great service and midfield also not the best at protecting the defence either. I Like Folly and Flynn, but they need pushed for a starting place - hopefully McGinn will be back fully fit soon to do just that. Magennis is a great player, but need goals and covering back better - hitting the post is not our target. (Though if they had both gone in it would be a very different result)  McAllister can be great going forward and is a good guy to bring on to really go for it. I don't think any of our midfield yesterday were at their best... Far too much back the way thinking with their passing as well.

Defensively :  Waters is not that great. Stewart had so much height advantage and caused him loads of bother.  McLoughlin in the last 2 games definitely not better than Baird.   MacK is he going to have more injuries????   P. McGinn decent player but not on song recently either.  Kirky looked slow, losing his man on occasions.   Losing Muzek and Popescu, and not playing the reliable Baird has made our defence poorer...

The 2 new strikers will get goals eventually, but not sure our play helps. I'd play with one of them, with Durmus wide with Andreu just in behind. McAllister could come on when Durmus or Andreu have run out of steam... I also don't get why we lump it up in the air to the strikers - can't we play to the feet or in behind and move forward quicker?

19 hours ago, Kemp said:

Not seen anything to suggest Waters and McLoughlin are improvements yet.

What type of an effort to spell McLoughlin was that anyway, Ricky?Hang your head in shame.

That is because they are not improvements...  Waters could not lace Muzek's boots and defensively Baird is much better than McLoughlin.

Kirky did not look to be up to SPEED either... 

[Bud the Baker]

8 hours ago, Lord Pityme said:

McAllister is permanently injured! He has explained it in interviews that his groin can flare up at anytime. Operations havent helped, Specialists have been unable to tell him why? Other than perhaps its because he played too much football as a youngster?

we know he can play a bit, but as yet he has never had ONE full season as a professional. We paid allegedly, our highest fee for decades to bring him back having sold him knowing his fitness issues.... was this the best use of those funds? If we cant get a season out of him, have we snookered ourselves?

If that's correct it's a major error, a club of our size should not be paying out transfer fees - it just eats into our player budget  especially this season when we are running with a small squad.

[Bud the Baker]

Just now, cockles1987 said:

I actually heard we got him for free but with sell on clauses.

Now I can back up my claim and provide actual proof.

Can LPM?

Actual proof - why not do so then, rather than being a bit coy about it? 

[Bud the Baker]

1 hour ago, cockles1987 said:

That's not fair, you ask me to provide evidence but take LPM at his word

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/kyle-mcallister-talks-st-mirren-18837308

No I didn't -  I said to LPM "If that's correct"

You responded to my post with a one which was a bit coy - a quote from the DR is a cut above unpublished speculation but you could as easily have made the same reply to LPM earlier and saved all the confusion. 

Edited September 16, 2019 by Bud the Baker

[Lord Pityme]

Well.... even the official website must be lying as they insist Kyle signed for "an undisclosed fee".... should we not belive the club in this?

https://www.stmirren.com/all-news/3011-kyle-mcallister-signs-three-year-deal-to-return-to-saints

[Lord Pityme]

Or it could just mean 'undisclosed fee'? Like it says on the tin!

[beyond our ken]

22 hours ago, bazil85 said:

As usual you have taken a small aspect of a story and applied your own warped negative spin to it.

Mccalister says “I think it’s because I played so much when I was younger. I played a lot of football with a sore groin”

LPM interprets that as “played too much football as a youngster” absolutely no mention of the undiagnosed condition.

Goodwin said on return of Mccalister “Our duty to manage him properly and make sure he STAYS FULLY FIT”

LPM says based on a six month old story “Mccalister is permanently injured”

Absolutely zero official sources online and hardly a whisper of the fee heard from anywhere else.

LPM on probably little more than a pub conversation (if that) goes with a higher fee than Heaton and our highest fee in “decades” how many decades? Is it zero?

We can chalk this one down to your trolling and general lack of awareness at what’s going on. I’ll put it right under the 400-500 season tickets down one. (Still waiting for an admittance that was wrong by the way)

Lordy

he accurately summarised stuff from the interview.

Kyle McAlister claims in the interview that he has an injury that he doesn't think will ever fully resolve itself

Kyle McAllister says that Kyle McAllister thinks it is down to playing too much football as a youngster-he wouldn't be the first there!

Why did Baz think it necessary to rubbish what Kyle McAllister says in order to try and score a point on a forum?

And after accusing someone of using conjecture, he uses the word "probably" as he muses on the sources LPM used.  I know somebody made Bazil up, but other than that-you couldn't make it up

[Isle Of Bute Saint]

23 hours ago, E=Mc2 said:

The linesman didn't flag when the ball was struck towards the goal.

If the linesman felt at that moment the player was offside that was when he should have raised his flag. 

That is his job.

The officials keep telling us they can only make decisions on what they see.

And the only thing the linesman saw was  4 or 5 irate Ross County players rushing towards him.

The lineman then believed he had made a mistake by not flagging and he believed he was correcting that mistake with his very late flag.

As the TV showed it was a very difficult decision to make, but the linesman, I believe, by not raising his flag earlier had not seen our player in an offside position, and it turned out his initial reaction was correct. Our player was not offside.

 

  

 

The ref over ruled the linesman I'm Sportscene said that somewhere did. 

[St.Ricky]

10 minutes ago, cockles1987 said:

IoBS, my view is that the Ref and his Assistant were in communication with each other. The conversation could well have been.

Asst. The player was offside if he played the ball.
Ref. I can confirm he played the ball.
Asst. Decision is Offside.

VAR. Onside.

Human error

[bazil85]

1 hour ago, beyond our ken said:

Lordy

he accurately summarised stuff from the interview.

Kyle McAlister claims in the interview that he has an injury that he doesn't think will ever fully resolve itself

Kyle McAllister says that Kyle McAllister thinks it is down to playing too much football as a youngster-he wouldn't be the first there!

Why did Baz think it necessary to rubbish what Kyle McAllister says in order to try and score a point on a forum?

And after accusing someone of using conjecture, he uses the word "probably" as he muses on the sources LPM used.  I know somebody made Bazil up, but other than that-you couldn't make it up

No he didn't, sorry state when you jump on LPM's side 

1. Goody confirmed fully fit post that interview 

2. Kyle did not say it was down to too much football, down to a lot of football while struggling with an non-diagnosed medical issue

3. I didn't 

4. that point makes zero sense

 

[Lord Pityme]

You gotta laugh innit!

Baz now saying Kyle McAllister is lying about the possible source of his OWN ongoing injury problem.

its the best post on the forum ever!

[bazil85]

Just now, Lord Pityme said:

You gotta laugh innit!

Baz now saying Kyle McAllister is lying about the possible source of his OWN ongoing injury problem.

its the best post on the forum ever!

No I didn't, another clear lie from you and why I have zero trust when you make outlandish claims about GLS. 

[bazil85]

6 hours ago, Lord Pityme said:

Well.... even the official website must be lying as they insist Kyle signed for "an undisclosed fee".... should we not belive the club in this?

https://www.stmirren.com/all-news/3011-kyle-mcallister-signs-three-year-deal-to-return-to-saints

And your source for it being the biggest in decades? 

[Lord Pityme]

6 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

No I didn't, another clear lie from you and why I have zero trust when you make outlandish claims about GLS. 

"We were struggling when we (St Mirren) were in the Championship and I played with sore groins the full time I was in the first team. I blame myself for that because I wouldn't tell anybody. I would just get on with it and try and do my best at the weekend.

"It just wore me right down. Especially being so young, my body wasn't ready for it.

"When I went down there (to Derby), they told me my groins were done in.

"It was hard. I was happy hearing it was six months I was supposed to be out, because when I left here my full body was aching at all times. My groins were so bad.

"I did the six months, came back into pre-season and felt my groins again, and the following year was just terrible, getting told 'six weeks' and coming back and out again. My groins just weren't recovering.

"It was such a struggle trying to play with it and every time I woke up I was so sore."

source - K McAllister.

[bazil85]

2 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

"We were struggling when we (St Mirren) were in the Championship and I played with sore groins the full time I was in the first team. I blame myself for that because I wouldn't tell anybody. I would just get on with it and try and do my best at the weekend.

"It just wore me right down. Especially being so young, my body wasn't ready for it.

"When I went down there (to Derby), they told me my groins were done in.

"It was hard. I was happy hearing it was six months I was supposed to be out, because when I left here my full body was aching at all times. My groins were so bad.

"I did the six months, came back into pre-season and felt my groins again, and the following year was just terrible, getting told 'six weeks' and coming back and out again. My groins just weren't recovering.

"It was such a struggle trying to play with it and every time I woke up I was so sore."

source - K McAllister.

So the issue is he was playing with an undiagnosed injury NOT playing TOO much football? In other words, what I said. 

Oh LPM, we know you like to spin words to make things look as negative as possible. Why don't you quote where he has said he is permanently injured as of signing with the club this summer? lol 

 

[Sweeper07]

42 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

No I didn't, another clear lie from you and why I have zero trust when you make outlandish claims about GLS. 

Did you forget that LPM cannot read, either that OR he ignores the fine details of what folk say for whatever twisted reason he decides...

He gave me a laugh suggesting your post was the best ever (with an ironic slant I suspect) - He has the top 50 ridiculous posts all to himself !  

[Lord Pityme]

35 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

So the issue is he was playing with an undiagnosed injury NOT playing TOO much football? In other words, what I said. 

Oh LPM, we know you like to spin words to make things look as negative as possible. Why don't you quote where he has said he is permanently injured as of signing with the club this summer? lol 

 

Keep on keepin on Baz, its what gives the forum a right good laugh.

[bazil85]

Just now, Lord Pityme said:

Keep on keepin on Baz, its what gives the forum a right good laugh.

Good comeback. Deflection, your go to when proven wrong. Still not willing to put your hands up on the season ticket numbers mistake?

[E=Mc2]

4 hours ago, cockles1987 said:

IoBS, my view is that the Ref and his Assistant were in communication with each other. The conversation could well have been.

Asst. The player was offside if he played the ball.
Ref. I can confirm he played the ball.
Asst. Decision is Offside.

VAR. Onside.

That should only be the sequence of events if we had VAR.

Assistants are encouraged not to make a crucial decision as VAR will confirm what is correct.

In your sequence the assistant saw the player offside when the ball was played forward, which he wasn’t. The assistant would be correct to believe the goal should stand if the player didn’t touch the ball, so he asks the referee.

My concern is we are told by officials that they can only give what they see. It’s their get out cause when they miss a deliberate handball. So I would like to ask this assistant what he saw as offside as the tv has confirmed the player was not offside when the  ball was played forward.

If this had been any of our Glasgow cousins there would have been uproar. 

The officials will be judged by their performances and this assistant should be marked down for saying he saw something that wasn’t there. Seeing something that is not there to be seen is considered worse than missing something that is picked up by tv cameras.

 

 

 

 

[Bud the Baker]

8 hours ago, Lord Pityme said:

Or it could just mean 'undisclosed fee'? Like it says on the tin!

Yup - Club Website trumps Daily Record!

[Lord Pityme]

4 hours ago, bazil85 said:

Good comeback. Deflection, your go to when proven wrong. Still not willing to put your hands up on the season ticket numbers mistake?

Are you calling Kyle McAllister a liar as well now? What a chump!

[bazil85]

16 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

Are you calling Kyle McAllister a liar as well now? What a chump!

No, you’re the one that lied. I have clearly evidenced that. I have not said anything he said was a lie. Good effort again but you’re still wrong. Must be used to it.