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1 hour ago, faraway saint said:

I can get this idea but, as the competition stands, it still works perfectly well.

The best teams qualify and, overall, produce the best football available.

For me it's all about the quality and it produces that year in year out.

Sure there are disappointing games, last years final for one, but theirs always cracking games, goals and drama.

Best club football tournament in the world for me.

The current setup has hoarded football’s money into four countries, and killed it off for many others. In the past we had the likes of Ajax being dominant because they had a stunning youth system. Their youth system is still quality but that dominance will never occur again because they can’t keep the players. Last season was a great effort but I can’t see them repeating it year after year like they used to.

I just can’t support the idea of 4 countries taking 16 group spaces while the other 51 countries have to fight it out for the other 16. 

The problem now is too deep, and any suggestion to change it in a way which will hurt the bigger countries will result in the European Superleague taking form, which again  I can’t support.

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6 minutes ago, Cornwall_Saint said:

The current setup has hoarded football’s money into four countries, and killed it off for many others. In the past we had the likes of Ajax being dominant because they had a stunning youth system. Their youth system is still quality but that dominance will never occur again because they can’t keep the players. Last season was a great effort but I can’t see them repeating it year after year like they used to.

I just can’t support the idea of 4 countries taking 16 group spaces while the other 51 countries have to fight it out for the other 16. 

The problem now is too deep, and any suggestion to change it in a way which will hurt the bigger countries will result in the European Superleague taking form, which again  I can’t support.

Every league, International tournament in the world is about maximising income.

You only need to look at our club with the current situation giving our ground to the OF.

There is no point IMO whining about supporting or not supporting it, every supporter supports this in some way.

I already mentioned, plenty of smaller clubs in every country could whine about other clubs having more resources, it's always happened, now it just happens more.

It's football, I leave the politics to others. 

 

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2 hours ago, faraway saint said:

I can get this idea but, as the competition stands, it still works perfectly well.

The best teams qualify and, overall, produce the best football available.

For me it's all about the quality and it produces that year in year out.

Sure there are disappointing games, last years final for one, but theirs always cracking games, goals and drama.

Best club football tournament in the world for me.

It's a sham. Made to suit the larger countries with bigger viewing figures for advertisers. Artificially loaded. 

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Top 9 seeds go straight into group stage.
That leaves 46 teams - 23 games, two legs. 23 winners join the 9 making 32 team group stage.
Then we have an actual Champions League.
I don't agree with seeding, just playing into the hands of the big boys again.

A team entering at the preliminary round in the current setup would have to play 23 games if they reached the final, whereas the big boys would only have to play 13 - totally unfair IMO.

11 groups of 5 (totally at random, home and away), top 2 and 10 best 3rd place progress into last 32 group stage then knockout from last 16. A total of 21 games for a team that reaches the final.

Maybe they top athletes would get too tired, though, and the first group stage could be cut to 4 games, home/away determined by the order teams were drawn, making a total of 17 games. Or maybe knockout from last 32 stage for 17 games. Or both, for 13 games.

(Hope my arithmetic hasn't let me down :) )

Simple, but it'll never happen - turkeys and xmas.

(I'm assuming the 55 quoted is correct, I can't be arsed checking)

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1 minute ago, Slartibartfast said:

I don't agree with seeding, just playing into the hands of the big boys again.

A team entering at the preliminary round in the current setup would have to play 23 games if they reached the final, whereas the big boys would only have to play 13 - totally unfair IMO.

11 groups of 5 (totally at random, home and away), top 2 and 10 best 3rd place progress into last 32 group stage then knockout from last 16. A total of 21 games for a team that reaches the final.

Maybe they top athletes would get too tired, though, and the first group stage could be cut to 4 games, home/away determined by the order teams were drawn, making a total of 17 games. Or maybe knockout from last 32 stage for 17 games. Or both, for 13 games.

(Hope my arithmetic hasn't let me down :) )

Simple, but it'll never happen - turkeys and xmas.

(I'm assuming the 55 quoted is correct, I can't be arsed checking)

I agree about seeding. Champions only. Knock out over two legs until the quarter finals which I would have as straightforward knock out from then on. 

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