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With Shankland now having scored three times more goals than our whole team by September!, being touted for a full Scotland debut as well as tracked by the OF and clubs down south...

How does the decision to splash out on signing McAllister stack up, given in his own words he expects to be carrying his injury/ fitness problems for as long as he plays?

Wasn't it obvious who we should have signed?

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You are bringing this up for the umpteenth time yet you still can't provide a shred of evidence that we paid the same or more in wages and signing fees for McAllister as Utd paid for Shankland. Until you can prove it was feasible stop banging on about it as if it was. You also make a huge assumption that the player himself would have come back to a club where by his own admission things didn't work out. The fact the OF were shadowing his progress PRIOR to him signing for Utd suggests to me they have paid way more than we could have offered him Championship club or not. You keep making out we had a choice McAilister or Shankland which imo is total made up bollocks !

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26 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said:

You are bringing this up for the umpteenth time yet you still can't provide a shred of evidence that we paid the same or more in wages and signing fees for McAllister as Utd paid for Shankland. Until you can prove it was feasible stop banging on about it as if it was. You also make a huge assumption that the player himself would have come back to a club where by his own admission things didn't work out. The fact the OF were shadowing his progress PRIOR to him signing for Utd suggests to me they have paid way more than we could have offered him Championship club or not. You keep making out we had a choice McAilister or Shankland which imo is total made up bollocks !

I don't think that we had a snowballs chance in hell of signing Shankland for a second time. I don't think he would have come to us. Time to move on with this. Kyle has talent, he has pace and can score goals. Give him time. 

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You are bringing this up for the umpteenth time yet you still can't provide a shred of evidence that we paid the same or more in wages and signing fees for McAllister as Utd paid for Shankland. Until you can prove it was feasible stop banging on about it as if it was. You also make a huge assumption that the player himself would have come back to a club where by his own admission things didn't work out. The fact the OF were shadowing his progress PRIOR to him signing for Utd suggests to me they have paid way more than we could have offered him Championship club or not. You keep making out we had a choice McAilister or Shankland which imo is total made up bollocks !
Are your evidence is...? Ah yes none.
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57 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

 

With Shankland now having scored three times more goals than our whole team by September!, being touted for a full Scotland debut as well as tracked by the OF and clubs down south...

How does the decision to splash out on signing McAllister stack up, given in his own words he expects to be carrying his injury/ fitness problems for as long as he plays?

Wasn't it obvious who we should have signed?

 

Yes I am sure Saints were the top of Shanklands list ?

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Luvin the bollocks theory that Shankland somehow wants to see out his career in the championship. I think some just don't like having the massive mistakes the board makes pointed out to them.
We sold. Then bought back a permanently injured player who is guess what? Yes that's right struggling for games and fitness, when the highest scorer in the land is playing his trade in the championship.

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2 hours ago, Lord Pityme said:

 

With Shankland now having scored three times more goals than our whole team by September!, being touted for a full Scotland debut as well as tracked by the OF and clubs down south...

How does the decision to splash out on signing McAllister stack up, given in his own words he expects to be carrying his injury/ fitness problems for as long as he plays?

Wasn't it obvious who we should have signed?

 

Shankland who received a 6 figure signing on fee and a 6 figure annual salary by signing for Dundee utd. 

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Shankland made an arse of it at a few clubs hence he ended up at Ayr United. It wasn't until he decided it really was last chance saloon that he got his act together. 

I liked him as a player and could see he was a natural goalscorer but his dedication didn't look there at that point.  

Whether or not he can score regularly in the Premiership is still open to debate at this point.

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Shankland made an arse of it at a few clubs hence he ended up at Ayr United. It wasn't until he decided it really was last chance saloon that he got his act together. 
I liked him as a player and could see he was a natural goalscorer but his dedication didn't look there at that point.  
Whether or not he can score regularly in the Premiership is still open to debate at this point.
Bit like Morais, Obika etc?
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2 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:
4 minutes ago, munoz said:
Shankland made an arse of it at a few clubs hence he ended up at Ayr United. It wasn't until he decided it really was last chance saloon that he got his act together. 
I liked him as a player and could see he was a natural goalscorer but his dedication didn't look there at that point.  
Whether or not he can score regularly in the Premiership is still open to debate at this point.

Bit like Morais, Obika etc?

At this point yes. Every signing is a risk. 

I'm not going write off players before they have even settled in. 

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1 hour ago, Lord Pityme said:
2 hours ago, Ayrshire Saints said:
You are bringing this up for the umpteenth time yet you still can't provide a shred of evidence that we paid the same or more in wages and signing fees for McAllister as Utd paid for Shankland. Until you can prove it was feasible stop banging on about it as if it was. You also make a huge assumption that the player himself would have come back to a club where by his own admission things didn't work out. The fact the OF were shadowing his progress PRIOR to him signing for Utd suggests to me they have paid way more than we could have offered him Championship club or not. You keep making out we had a choice McAilister or Shankland which imo is total made up bollocks !

Are your evidence is...? Ah yes none.

Evidence for what - I'm not the one claiming we could have signed him !!!

Change the record ffs

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1 hour ago, Lord Pityme said:
1 hour ago, kevo_smfc said:
Shankland who received a 6 figure signing on fee and a 6 figure annual salary by signing for Dundee utd. 

Proof please! As I heard from his aunties, sister's, cousins vet it was seven figures he was on just to take a shit..!

Pot, kettle, black. When do you ever take "proof" into account in your posts? 

Proof Mccalister was signed for our "biggest fee in decades"

Proof that when Goodwin said Mccalister is "fully fit" after signing in the summer it was a lie

Proof that Shankland would have been interested in a return to SMFC even though he reportedly turned down options in England and SP to pick United 

LPM's go to - absolutely anything negative to talk down the SMFC board. How raging he will be when GLS and SMISA complete BTB & go down in our history books as the heroes that moved our club to fan ownership. :lol:

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25 minutes ago, Tommy said:

Assuming they will be an other village idiot on the Morton page on P&B banging on about not signing him   :lol:

Since he was never our player, assume the Dons fans will be raging as well for releasing him     :lol:

The fact the we or others clubs released him or that he wasn't our player isn't relevant to LPM's point. Indeed, the fact that he was ever with us is irrelevant.

The point is that LPM advocated that we sign him in the summer from Ayr United when he was available instead of spending cash on other players.

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We couldn't afford Shankland. Dundee United are a big club who are paying him a lot if money. He isn't happy to be hanging around the championship, but he expects to get promoted with United, then do well when they get up to the Premier. He certanly didnt want to sign for any club that would be fighting rekegation. Shankland is 24, he's not a young kid anymore. He lost a couple of seasons due to some bad decisions and now he needs to make his money and kick on. Good luck to him.

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8 minutes ago, norman said:

We couldn't afford Shankland. Dundee United are a big club who are paying him a lot if money. He isn't happy to be hanging around the championship, but he expects to get promoted with United, then do well when they get up to the Premier. He certanly didnt want to sign for any club that would be fighting rekegation. Shankland is 24, he's not a young kid anymore. He lost a couple of seasons due to some bad decisions and now he needs to make his money and kick on. Good luck to him.

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Dear oh dear, having a bad day? 

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Dundee Utd are about 15% bigger than us in turnover but have far more debt, the fact the pay more in wages to some players is due to the fact they have to get back to the top league......

Shankland is totally unproven at Saints level, he has never played in the top division, the boy at Peterhead can score goals at lower league level to 

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