Lord Pityme Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 Didn't expect to see my tweet in here [emoji38] I don't think the accounts look that bad - just could be better based on the amount we've brought in I really like the work we've done on the stadium, especially the lights - looks so much betterOran, Kellerman, Heaton etc pay offs to come out of this years accounts, and no big transfer money in (as yet). The finances are being f**ked by ego! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: 14 minutes ago, Doakes said: Didn't expect to see my tweet in here I don't think the accounts look that bad - just could be better based on the amount we've brought in I really like the work we've done on the stadium, especially the lights - looks so much better Oran, Kellerman, Heaton etc pay offs to come out of this years accounts, and no big transfer money in (as yet). The finances are being f**ked by ego! The £300k odd add on for McGinn is to be factored in. Three payoffs compared to considerably more last season & much less need to rebuild in January. Clear you get excited at the thought of Armageddon for the team you ‘support’ but these accounts don’t show it I’m afraid. Also curious you have concerns. You want us to follow St Johnstone’s lead with a much larger loss recording & worsening situation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, bazil85 said: The £300k odd add on for McGinn is to be factored in. Three payoffs compared to considerably more last season & much less need to rebuild in January. Clear you get excited at the thought of Armageddon for the team you ‘support’ but these accounts don’t show it I’m afraid. Also curious you have concerns. You want us to follow St Johnstone’s lead with a much larger loss recording & worsening situation... I think Falkirk just had a near 700k loss. Now that really is troubling if you're a Falkirk supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, munoz said: I think Falkirk just had a near 700k loss. Now that really is troubling if you're a Falkirk supporter. Yep, according to LPM though we are on the cusp of a Sevco situation because of the one off losses in this years accounts 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Lord Pityme said: Massive pressure to sell players now in an attempt to balance those books. Stop posting utter drivel man FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, La Roche Derriere said: I am not sure why you think this. The financial statements show the books were balanced last year. Although expenses were high a fair chunk of it is non recurring. I would expect the player recruitment budget for the current year will have been set taking account of anticipated income and known ongoing costs. The fact that JG is talking about bringing in new players in January indicates that there is more cash to spend rather than a need for cutbacks. I think this is a fair analysis. Gordon surely must have reduced the budget to account for the fact that we have vastly reduced player sales income for the next 12 months. Like waldorf says, when you step back, yes the accounts have a worrying operating loss but in truth the bigger picture is that the McGinn money bought us promotion and then kept us in the top league. That was our return on that money. Of course, next time we might not be so lucky but that is what that money bought us. We can argue about how that money should have been spent but we remain in the black and that is good news. In the end, to our relief, Gordon only gambled money which he had to spend. As football fans with experience of clubs financially doping I think we were entitled to be deeply worried leading into this set of accounts. Edited November 29, 2019 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lord Pityme said: Massive pressure to sell players now in an attempt to balance those books. Only if projected expenses in the next year's budgets have stayed the same without a compensating increase in turnover. You were wrong last year and the year before. What makes you so sure you are correct this time? Edited November 29, 2019 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Only if projected expenses in the next year's budgets have stayed the same without a compensating increase in turnover. You were wrong last year and the year before. What makes you so sure you are correct this time? For all our issues, this may be my favourite comment on BAWA ever 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 4 hours ago, munoz said: I think Falkirk just had a near 700k loss. Now that really is troubling if you're a Falkirk supporter. Add in ICT saying they will lose 872K this season makes me wish LPM supported 1 of those 2 clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 13 hours ago, La Roche Derriere said: TF is a director. Therefore his employment income must be disclosed in the financial statements under directors remuneration. I am afraid LPM but, for once, you are wrong For Once? Eh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Our accounts aren't too troubling when you look at some of the other clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Our accounts aren't too troubling when you look at some of the other clubs.Motherwell I read today had the third lowest wage bill in the league last season, and have FIFTEEN times more profit than us...Not troubling you say? Seems to this observer Motherwell as an example, are run FIFTEEN times better than us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Lord Pityme said: Motherwell I read today had the third lowest wage bill in the league last season, and have FIFTEEN times more profit than us... Not troubling you say? Seems to this observer Motherwell as an example, are run FIFTEEN times better than us. Post that link, article/image/stats here just to disprove any of those doubters you may have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Although I think they'd probably be able to analyse the data to show Saints are not all bad - and had good/solid reason for that discrepancy, Such as... Motherwell have not just been promoted and haven't gone through the same flurry of turmoil that Saints have recently enjoyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Although I think they'd probably be able to analyse the data to show Saints are not all bad - and had good/solid reason for that discrepancy, Such as... Motherwell have not just been promoted and haven't gone through the same flurry of turmoil that Saints have recently enjoyed.Like I said FIFTEEN times better run lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: 45 minutes ago, antrin said: Although I think they'd probably be able to analyse the data to show Saints are not all bad - and had good/solid reason for that discrepancy, Such as... Motherwell have not just been promoted and haven't gone through the same flurry of turmoil that Saints have recently enjoyed. Like I said FIFTEEN times better run lol Were 2 cup finals the previous season and selling a few players not something to do with their profits ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeBud Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 58 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: Motherwell I read today had the third lowest wage bill in the league last season, and have FIFTEEN times more profit than us... Not troubling you say? Seems to this observer Motherwell as an example, are run FIFTEEN times better than us. I'm not sure if that's the same report I read, if it was we had the second lowest wage in the league with only Livi below us......Hamilton were fourth lowest although I think in each case it was the average weekly wage as opposed to total wage bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 On 11/29/2019 at 1:43 PM, Lord Pityme said: Massive pressure to sell players now in an attempt to balance those books. REALLY - Thought you said that GLS had bankrupted us and we'd do a Sevco??????? Noticed above you still use that kind of ridiculous rant. We spent within our means to do so - despite managerial chaos AND still ended the year in profit AND achieved our main objective - to retain Top League status.. AYE but according to you that's nothing compared to so many negatives . . . Where is the pressure to sell players and who would fetch much ? PS the books already balanced out in PROFIT !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lord Pityme said: Motherwell I read today had the third lowest wage bill in the league last season, and have FIFTEEN times more profit than us... Not troubling you say? Seems to this observer Motherwell as an example, are run FIFTEEN times better than us. The Motherwell published accounts are from January 2019 and take account the two cup final runs from the previous year. A clear anomaly in a club of their sizes history. Ridiculous and clearly ignorant attempt to belittle the club you "support" yet again.Also completely ignoring the seven SP clubs we performed better than. Motherwell previous year accounts bottom-line (every year we have made a profit) 2017 - Loss of £181,000 2016 - Loss of £1.3 million 2015 - loss of £1 million This also doesn't consider the outstanding loans they had. Care to calculate the running of the clubs based on a bigger picture? Edited December 3, 2019 by bazil85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, munoz said: Were 2 cup finals the previous season and selling a few players not something to do with their profits ? He's grasping for air in the midst of posting so much drivel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 21 minutes ago, WeeBud said: I'm not sure if that's the same report I read, if it was we had the second lowest wage in the league with only Livi below us......Hamilton were fourth lowest although I think in each case it was the average weekly wage as opposed to total wage bill. He does not let facts get in the way of creative drama ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Motherwell were recorded as third lowest last season, one of the few things LPM has actually gotten right on here. They finished eighth, so a slightly better season than they were potentially expecting. It's not doubt their increased profits were largely down to cup runs though. Their released accounts even highlight it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeBud Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sweeper07 said: He does not let facts get in the way of creative drama ! Don't embroil me in your nonsense, I think it's fair to say he's not the only one that doesn't always deal in facts!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Two cup finals eh?That probably makes them FIFTY times better run then on those wages. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: Two cup finals eh? That probably makes them FIFTY times better run then on those wages. Lol St Mirren 100% better run than Livi Twice better run than St Johnstone Three times better run than Killie Five times better run than Dundee Six times better run than Hamilton 60 times better run than Aberdeen 134 times better run than Sevco. Have I got your rationale and calculations right there? Fair number of teams in world football in the Sevco territory by your guidance lol... Imagine taking pleasure in making up negativity nonsense regarding the team you “support” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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