norrie82 Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, djchapsticks said: Regardless of future fees, we must be getting more for our biggest young assets in terms of actual cash. £125k and the rest on the never-never is simply ridiculous. Yes remember Burton o Brien and David McNamee leaving to Blackburn for 600k plus add ins which we saw none of. This add ins is no use at times we need a decent deal up front and if your telling me we nurture top talent to sell it for absolutely nothing then What is the point . It’s beyond a joke 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kombibuddie Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 21 hours ago, magnus said: Given the hype £125k looks weirdly low. Has to be something else going on. Maybe it's a new approach designed to cash in on sell ons. With the hype of Celtic, Rangers & Benfica all keeping tabs, £125k is way too low. If he was to go to one of those 3, it should be Benfica for no other reason than rangers & celtic have a history ruining a lot of young talent. Benfica are more likely to bring him on better than the other 2. If he's good enough, get him in the 1st team squad & see how Stephen Robinson can bring him on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portmahomack saint Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 The boy's going to go anyway we had to persuade him to sign a new deal in the first place.... Maybe we''ll get a big chunk if or when he makes the first team debut, Then 4 year down the line goes for a modest 10 million to the likes of Brentford or Notts Forrest type team... if were on 20% that's two million... if he's a good yin 40 million to Spurs etc... 8 million to us what's not to like He could just be a teenage wonder like many young Scots and never see the light of day again past 21.... Good deal all round for me if that's the case 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portmahomack saint Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, Kombibuddie said: With the hype of Celtic, Rangers & Benfica all keeping tabs, £125k is way too low. If he was to go to one of those 3, it should be Benfica for no other reason than rangers & celtic have a history ruining a lot of young talent. Benfica are more likely to bring him on better than the other 2. If he's good enough, get him in the 1st team squad & see how Stephen Robinson can bring him on. Could just as easily get lost in Portugal... like Ryan Gauld did 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portmahomack saint Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 Take the cash now the add on's and the 20% and bring back big Lee Erwin we need a proven goal scorer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 49 minutes ago, portmahomack saint said: Take the cash now the add on's and the 20% and bring back big Lee Erwin we need a proven goal scorer . “You cannot be serious!” Lee! no. But you knew that. Taking the cash with potential add ons I can get. Big decision for Dylan to make. Greatly increased wages, no doubt a signing on fee and a chance to make it at a much bigger club. Against that is the likelihood that he won’t be playing first team, top league football over the next year or two. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Saint Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Kombibuddie said: With the hype of Celtic, Rangers & Benfica all keeping tabs, £125k is way too low. If he was to go to one of those 3, it should be Benfica for no other reason than rangers & celtic have a history ruining a lot of young talent. Benfica are more likely to bring him on better than the other 2. If he's good enough, get him in the 1st team squad & see how Stephen Robinson can bring him on. Hes not good enough for 1st team... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, Warrior Saint said: Hes not good enough for 1st team... Wait 4 it!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 Celtics offer of £125k is a absolute insult. Cost us more than that to develop the player. Sent from my SM-A526B using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 2 hours ago, portmahomack saint said: Take the cash now the add on's and the 20% and bring back big Lee Erwin we need a proven goal scorer Lee Erwin earned Motherwell £500,000 as a development fee. 😂 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, SuperSaints1877 said: Lee Erwin earned Motherwell £500,000 as a development fee. 😂 Yes , but for that money his new club also got a Tractor that Erwin pulled around for the rest of his career 🤨 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Saint Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 3 hours ago, JJ McG said: Wait 4 it!!! Keep waiting the now wee man!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truesaint Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 Wonder where sweeper07 is these days? 🤔 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, truesaint said: Wonder where sweeper07 is these days? 🤔 See you, ya scamp. 😉 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldorf34 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Did we not get Kenny McLean and Lewis Morgan from old firm academy for free? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 50 minutes ago, waldorf34 said: Did we not get Kenny McLean and Lewis Morgan from old firm academy for free? Yeh we did, both of them got released by Rangers (lol). With Reid it's obvious he has no interest at being at the club beyond next summer and he will certainly not be signing another deal with us. We either let him go now and accept a deal that we can tailor to what we believe is best for the club long term, or let him go for a development fee next summer, where we will have much less control. There's no third option. I can't see him getting many minutes this season, so him leaving now is not going to have a great impact on the first team. He will be below O'Hara, Baccus and Erhahon and probably Flynn too for the centre midfield position. So yeah, i'd be inclined to take the money and the add ons now as opposed to going down the development fee route. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 37 minutes ago, TopCat said: Yeh we did, both of them got released by Rangers (lol). With Reid it's obvious he has no interest at being at the club beyond next summer and he will certainly not be signing another deal with us. We either let him go now and accept a deal that we can tailor to what we believe is best for the club long term, or let him go for a development fee next summer, where we will have much less control. There's no third option. I can't see him getting many minutes this season, so him leaving now is not going to have a great impact on the first team. He will be below O'Hara, Baccus and Erhahon and probably Flynn too for the centre midfield position. So yeah, i'd be inclined to take the money and the add ons now as opposed to going down the development fee route. He's at a difficult place in his development at the moment. He's probably not good enough or ready yet to hold down a first team regular place, though he possibly could a year from now. He will be gone by then. Cashing in now is the most sensible thing to do. He is fortunate with the clubs who are showing an interest in him. Add in at least a non-negotiable 20% sell-on and add-ons for appearances. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balmullo Bud Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 34 minutes ago, kevo_smfc said: He's at a difficult place in his development at the moment. He's probably not good enough or ready yet to hold down a first team regular place, though he possibly could a year from now. He will be gone by then. Cashing in now is the most sensible thing to do. He is fortunate with the clubs who are showing an interest in him. Add in at least a non-negotiable 20% sell-on and add-ons for appearances. Totally agree. The loan move to Queens Park looks like it was a total disaster now. If we’d kept him with the first team squad he would’ve seen more football and it would’ve been a win/win situation with our decimated squad at the tail end of the season. He has looked more than competent in the few appearances he’s made. I think you’re right re not getting a guaranteed start for us and he’s got a big decision to make. Getting first team experience/games far out ways development games. It looks like he wants away which is disappointing as we were all excited about him developing with us into another McGinn or McLean. Just boils down to getting the best deal we can for him now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 I may be wrong (it happens!) but I don’t think that I have seen any comments attributed to the player. A difficult choice for him. More money now and a signing on fee and an opportunity to make his mark with such a big club versus the uncertainty of maybe playing in our first team on the money he is on now (or increased) and tying himself to us for longer with perhaps a move in a year or two’s time. At his age, money in the pocket is important. Not easy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truesaint Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/in-your-area/renfrewshire/stephen-robinson-gives-dylan-reid-27468886 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Although I agree it’s depressing when we just give these players away, with further thought I’m wondering if this is maybe a bit of an overreaction. The boy is 17 now and if he’s not yet featuring in the 1st team, then you’ve got to question just how good he’s going to be. To my mind the last two players of ours who went on to be really top players (John McGinn and Paul Lambert) we both playing 1st team football at his age. I appreciate that’s a bit of a generalisation and the boy might be a slightly later developer, but we can only expect payment for what he is now. It’s a bit like saying, my company is only worth 30 Bob at the moment, but if it’s properly managed and adequately invested it could become a multi billion pound company, so I’ll sell it to you now for £20m. I’d say, £150k with some sell on % is about the most we can reasonably expect. Look at how much we sell established players for. Not much more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Although I agree it’s depressing when we just give these players away, with further thought I’m wondering if this is maybe a bit of an overreaction. The boy is 17 now and if he’s not yet featuring in the 1st team, then you’ve got to question just how good he’s going to be. To my mind the last two players of ours who went on to be really top players (John McGinn and Paul Lambert) we both playing 1st team football at his age. I appreciate that’s a bit of a generalisation and the boy might be a slightly later developer, but we can only expect payment for what he is now. It’s a bit like saying, my company is only worth 30 Bob at the moment, but if it’s properly managed and adequately invested it could become a multi billion pound company, so I’ll sell it to you now for £20m. I’d say, £150k with some sell on % is about the most we can reasonably expect. Look at how much we sell established players for. Not much more. I take a similar view but the Clubs have already agreed terms, or so I believe. It’s now down to the lad and his family. Either way it’s a win for us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Saint Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 See ya Dylan, never to be heard of again! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 See ya Dylan, never to be heard of again!Bet that's cheered a 17 year old boy up if he reads such positive thinking Sent from my SM-A526B using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, santaponsasaint said: Bet that's cheered a 17 year old boy up if he reads such positive thinking Sent from my SM-A526B using Tapatalk Don’t think oor WS is in the business of cheering folk up. 😀 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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