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Rangers v St Mirren, Wed 22nd Jan 2020

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1 hour ago, shull said:

It is them and us. 

Generally , the fans of the 40 Diddy Clubs are decent human beings. 

And Sevco and Celtic fans are absolute fecking vile scum. 

Every time you take a step forward, you take two back. Here in the present we have the Rangers Captain Blessing himself as he runs onto the park. Changed and changing times Shull. 

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56 minutes ago, Sweeper07 said:

NAW that is not our AIM. We are progressing every year and if we finish on better goal difference but the same points as any other team we pick up more prise money. If it happens to stop us being in the play-off,  then that is better than having to be in the play-off... is that not simple enough for you?

So tell us about you top notch outlook  - we could all do with a laugh :bounce2

TRY reading previous post about how others have fared there this season . . . then re-read it and see if you can get it to stay in your head for more than a few milliseconds . . :hammer

For me, this year is all about gaining stability within the squad, management and avoiding the relegation playoffs. For me that would be good enough progress in our first full season with our manager. Anything above that is an added bonus. 

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"I would rather lose 5-0 having a go than 1-0 sitting back" is the statement of a complete and utter thicko who doesn't understand how a league works and how promotion and relegation is determined.
It's just about acceptable in a cup game, but even then it's still a pretty pointless and stupid statement.
And what happens if it comes down goal difference at the end of the season and they 4 goals in a 5.0 defeat relegates us. Dont think your being sensible.

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Santaponsa. Obika played alone up front for most of the game and was covered by two decent centre backs. Once we freed a player to move forward later in the game, he was able to find another player. 
It's not just last night. Hes over 6ft tall and never gets on a header in the box in any game. I want to be wrong. But that's why Gus and Goody are searching for a new striker cos hes so good. Mullen and Cooke must shit in training if they cant get a game in front of him.

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10 minutes ago, santaponsasaint said:
2 hours ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said:
"I would rather lose 5-0 having a go than 1-0 sitting back" is the statement of a complete and utter thicko who doesn't understand how a league works and how promotion and relegation is determined.
It's just about acceptable in a cup game, but even then it's still a pretty pointless and stupid statement.

And what happens if it comes down goal difference at the end of the season and they 4 goals in a 5.0 defeat relegates us. Dont think your being sensible.

And I don't think you're reading my post properly SPS.

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Clearly wasn't at the McGowne or Mcdowall wins, both were 1v0 backs to the wall and nick one type victories. Laughable you of all people complaining those who were willing to pay their money were somehow conned / robbed - irony doesn't even come close !

Outplayed as in they had more if the ball as we were sitting deep. 
It's purely objective, glad I didn't pay £29 plus extras to watch a team setting for a narrow defeat.
The few brilliant memories people have of Ibrox are when we've had a go, that wasn't happening last night. 

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1 minute ago, Ayrshire Saints said:

Clearly wasn't at the McGowne or Mcdowall wins, both were 1v0 backs to the wall and nick one type victories. Laughable you of all people complaining those who were willing to pay their money were somehow conned / robbed - irony doesn't even come close !

I was at both- Yes you are correct we got thrashed in both but McDowell game he dislocated Woods arm then popped in the net, VAR might have disallowed.

Mind you that made it all the sweeter

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34 minutes ago, kevo_smfc said:

For me, this year is all about gaining stability within the squad, management and avoiding the relegation playoffs. For me that would be good enough progress in our first full season with our manager. Anything above that is an added bonus. 

I agree in the main - our primary goal is to stay up... given the chaos trying to progress these last few years, a bit of stability would be a good platform to build upon too.

It's easy to see the thinking about this in club statements.  JG here on a 3 year contract and a number of his players being on deals already signed to be here next season.

It is tougher this year and we are still in with the mix for 7th place or thereabouts. Our more recent form has been much better than early season, but we are not resting on our laurels having signed 3 decent guys while our rivals have hardly done anything. But we don't have brilliant strength and depth, given that

Gary MacK , S McGinn, K McAllister, K Magennis are all injured, but assuming Kirk will be back soon. On our website for the 1st team we list 25 players :-

However, Baird is 1 and is out on loan , The Djork another, Breadner another along with Erhahon neither of which seem to get any game time (The later despite Waters being our weakest link)

So the 25 are down to 18 or 19 with perhaps some of the injured guys returning at some point - possible taking us back to 22.

We could be at risk in the midfield and a better striker is always a desired addition. So I think to kick on 2 more good players in is most desirable, even if the likes of the Djork or Breadner go out on loan.

 

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45 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said:

Clearly wasn't at the McGowne or Mcdowall wins, both were 1v0 backs to the wall and nick one type victories. Laughable you of all people complaining those who were willing to pay their money were somehow conned / robbed - irony doesn't even come close !

Remind me of the criteria for commenting on posts? 

A sure sign you've lost the debate and you join the clueless group, one of who's has already liked your pish reply, well done.

Keep it up, you'll be shouting about aliases again soon. :lol:

PS I see the king of Trolls has pounced below, pity he's on ignore, cant read his predictable pish. :lol:

Edited by faraway saint

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11 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

Remind me of the criteria for commenting on posts? 

A sure sign you've lost the debate and you join the clueless group, one of who's has already liked your pish reply, well done.

Keep it up, you'll be shouting about aliases again soon. :lol:

You protest too much. 

Simple.. You. 

Those who go and pay see the whole pitch and player movement on and off the ball. Watching TV the camera and the viewer follows the ball. 

TV does have the benefit of close ups and replays. 

On balance, I'd go with the opinions of those who attend the games. 

I would just remind me of a phrase you tend to use often. 

Paraphrased.. Don't tell me or anyone else how to spend their money. 

Edited by St.Ricky

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I remember my tentative celebrations for the McDowall goal.

Remember glancing back and forth between the ref, the linesman and the ball in the back of the net, just waiting for one of them to signal that it wasn't a goal.

Tentative celebrations for the McGowne goal too, seeing as I was in the West Enclosure, with a free ticket, surrounded by buckled ****.

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I get it now..! Doh...!The board told us they write these games off and kick kids out of their seats to underline it...!

 

The manager told us he writes these games off and only tries in the last five minutes, even though we are beat anyway, and the opposition are playing poorly.!

 

And some fans tell us they write these games off and are happy to take a beating, even when it's obvious we could fight back..!

 

No wonder some call us St Liedown..!

 

 

You’d be moaning if we opened up

& took a hammering,Rangers were on an off night but they were still streets ahead of us.

 

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Every game against these 2 it’s the same moaning posts from the same people.
 
Thank goodness no one listens to them. Spot on tactics from the manager last night and I expect us to play the same way against teams with 10x the budget of ourselves moving forward.
 
Yet, killie, Motherwell, livvy all appear tae offer more on the attack front when playing against the Old Firm
If you instil a shite bag attitude prior to the gane, then you get shite bags.

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16 minutes ago, delpierro said:

Yet, killie, Motherwell, livvy all appear tae offer more on the attack front when playing against the Old Firm
If you instil a shite bag attitude prior to the gane, then you get shite bags.

JG did what he is paid to do and that is to set up the team as he sees fit. Having been at Tynecastle, I can assure you that last night felt better than the result did then. 

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2 hours ago, santaponsasaint said:
4 hours ago, St.Ricky said:
Santaponsa. Obika played alone up front for most of the game and was covered by two decent centre backs. Once we freed a player to move forward later in the game, he was able to find another player. 

It's not just last night. Hes over 6ft tall and never gets on a header in the box in any game. I want to be wrong. But that's why Gus and Goody are searching for a new striker cos hes so good. Mullen and Cooke must shit in training if they cant get a game in front of him.

A run of the mill striker with a first touch and some aerial prowess and we'd easily be cruising in at least 7th right now.

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Clearly wasn't at the McGowne or Mcdowall wins, both were 1v0 backs to the wall and nick one type victories.

Naw. The 1991 fits your description but 1989 they played around an hour with Ian Ferguson in goal and it was they who were 'backs to the wall' in protecting him. We should have won that game much more comfortably.

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2 hours ago, Dirty Sanchez said:

I remember my tentative celebrations for the McDowall goal.

Remember glancing back and forth between the ref, the linesman and the ball in the back of the net, just waiting for one of them to signal that it wasn't a goal.

Tentative celebrations for the McGowne goal too, seeing as I was in the West Enclosure, with a free ticket, surrounded by buckled ****.

 

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And guess what....all 3 lost at Ibrox like we did last night (1v0, 2v1 & 3v1) so the appearance must have been deceptive.

Yet, killie, Motherwell, livvy all appear tae offer more on the attack front when playing against the Old Firm
If you instil a shite bag attitude prior to the gane, then you get shite bags.

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8 hours ago, faraway saint said:

What you're failing to take into account is the Rangers team last night would struggle to beat Renfrew.

They were poor all over the park, my mate who was their said that was the worst they've played this season and we never laid a glove on them. 

My planned response has been suggested by a couple here - was Sevco’s “poor” performance in any way attributed to our defensive tactics? It seems commonplace that whenever a “big” team doesn’t win, or doesn’t win convincingly it’s because they were shite, and often the credit isn’t given to the opposition who may well have stifled them.

Our tactics last night were the same Broxburn had on Saturday. If Broxburn went for it against us they would have been trounced. Instead they sat back and kept in the game until our two late goals finished the job. At 1-0 there is every chance of stealing a result at the end. Likewise if we “go for it” at Darkheid or Greyskull then we will get annihilated. We haven’t got the players or the ability to convincingly take them on, in the same way Broxburn couldn’t “take us on”.

8 hours ago, Lord Pityme said:

So that's our aim?
Be Hamilton and maybe avoid the play offs, not relegation on goal difference?
That's a piss poor outlook.

You do realise that goal difference counts for every position in the league, not just relegation battles? It could be the difference between winning the title and coming 2nd (didn’t Man Utd do that under Fergie at some point?), making or failing to make the Top 6, and indeed every other position. 

I know you’re fishing here but the comment above is pretty stupid. I’m clearly stating goal difference in general is a factor which should always be considered as it’s the tie breaker when points are level. You fine well know I didn’t say “let’s do an Accies and survive on GD!”

You post some decent things when you want to, but it’s the shite like this that leads most posters to completely ignore your existence because it’s just outright stupid.

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14 minutes ago, Eric Arthur Blair said:

We avoided a playoff on GD 3 seasons ago.

 

And, more crucial, in 2018-09 when we finished on the same point as bottom club ICT.

Goal Difference could be vital. As you say, it has been before. It might be again in a  season like this when things are so tight between the teams by this stage. Leagues have been won and lost as have league survival. And, as Cornwall has pointed out, league positions and prize money won. Jim is quite right to adapt our style to minimise damage and as we saw the other night.. Who knows if the header had gone in.. Maybe more. 

Edited by St.Ricky

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And guess what....all 3 lost at Ibrox like we did last night (1v0, 2v1 & 3v1) so the appearance must have been deceptive.
But they attacked, which the supporters would appreciate, and it gives confidence to the players that they can compete against the top teams.
But hey, we're gonna disagree.

I say: go out there lads show me what you're capable of.

Others: we're gonna get tanked, hopefully just by the one goal.

Thank christ, Broxburn believed the former

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But they attacked, which the supporters would appreciate, and it gives confidence to the players that they can compete against the top teams.
But hey, we're gonna disagree.

I say: go out there lads show me what you're capable of.

Others: we're gonna get tanked, hopefully just by the one goal.

Thank christ, Broxburn believed the former
If we had attacked and lost by four or five, you think that would have done more for the players confidence as opposed to them looking back a tight game where they could have nicked a point and knowing they were able to show discipline and carry out a very specific game plan almost perfectly?

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8 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:
29 minutes ago, delpierro said:
But they attacked, which the supporters would appreciate, and it gives confidence to the players that they can compete against the top teams.
But hey, we're gonna disagree.

I say: go out there lads show me what you're capable of.

Others: we're gonna get tanked, hopefully just by the one goal.

Thank christ, Broxburn believed the former

If we had attacked and lost by four or five, you think that would have done more for the players confidence as opposed to them looking back a tight game where they could have nicked a point and knowing they were able to show discipline and carry out a very specific game plan almost perfectly?

Common sense prevails. 

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