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Quite disrespectful of Jack 'SMTID' Ross to broadcast his discussions with St Mirren about Paul McGinn before a deal has been concluded... here's hoping Paul does a Goody, talks to Hibs and then decides to stick with the Buddies and Jack is left looking a little less gallus.

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6 hours ago, Dibbles old paperboy said:

Quite disrespectful of Jack 'SMTID' Ross to broadcast his discussions with St Mirren about Paul McGinn before a deal has been concluded... here's hoping Paul does a Goody, talks to Hibs and then decides to stick with the Buddies and Jack is left looking a little less gallus.

Yeah, imagine answering a question you've been asked about a player whose manager has already told the media you've made a move for him.

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16 hours ago, Lord Pityme said:

So why not the same story as Hladky who is worth more?
Could be the club need the funds pronto to pay something off?

Could it be that Hladky is valued as a player who can win you points (shut-outs) as was Morgan for his match winning attributes.

Hladky has also made it known where his ambitions are to play his football. Put it this way, he won't e short of offers in the summer and will most likely get a move to the level he seeks.

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16 hours ago, Lord Pityme said:

So why not the same story as Hladky who is worth more?
Could be the club need the funds pronto to pay something off?

Have you been blackmailing GLS with those photos again?

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Could it be that Hladky is valued as a player who can win you points (shut-outs) as was Morgan for his match winning attributes.
Hladky has also made it known where his ambitions are to play his football. Put it this way, he won't e short of offers in the summer and will most likely get a move to the level he seeks.
Both McGinn and Hladky are under contract, the club can easily tell Ross to do one as we need (like Hladky) our best players now!

Arguably McGinn is of more value... what if we suffer another defensive injury, or the youngsters struggle for form/consistency as they inevitably may at some point.

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1 hour ago, Lord Pityme said:

Both McGinn and Hladky are under contract, the club can easily tell Ross to do one as we need (like Hladky) our best players now!

Arguably McGinn is of more value... what if we suffer another defensive injury, or the youngsters struggle for form/consistency as they inevitably may at some point.

Lee Hodson will cover it. :whistle

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2 hours ago, Lord Pityme said:

Both McGinn and Hladky are under contract, the club can easily tell Ross to do one as we need (like Hladky) our best players now!

Arguably McGinn is of more value... what if we suffer another defensive injury, or the youngsters struggle for form/consistency as they inevitably may at some point.

He's now currently sitting behind Flynn in the pecking order and I couldn't see that changing anytime soon. We have also filled our centre half roles. He's out of contract end of season, not getting a game (at the moment). Jack Ross was the man that brought him to the club.

Hibs could have openly looked to sign him on a pre-contract though want him now. It really wouldn't surprise me if the club had spoken to Paul about the interest and he has said he would like to speak to them. Same thing happened with Naismith, ironically the man he's looking to fill the boots of. We sold him off early to Ross County as the player was keen on the move early.

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He's now currently sitting behind Flynn in the pecking order and I couldn't see that changing anytime soon. We have also filled our centre half roles. He's out of contract end of season, not getting a game (at the moment). Jack Ross was the man that brought him to the club.
Hibs could have openly looked to sign him on a pre-contract though want him now. It really wouldn't surprise me if the club had spoken to Paul about the interest and he has said he would like to speak to them. Same thing happened with Naismith, ironically the man he's looking to fill the boots of. We sold him off early to Ross County as the player was keen on the move early.
Not getting a game?
How many times has that been? Behave yourself ffs you're making shit up now.

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1 hour ago, Lord Pityme said:

Not getting a game?
How many times has that been? Behave yourself ffs you're making shit up now.

Behave myself? You are the one trying to put a negative spin on every topic on here. Every last topic. Agenda against the board, no praise of players, just negative negative negative. 

Did he play on Sunday? No 
Did he play against Rangers? Yes, because we relied on extra defenders at the back.
Did he play against Broxburn? No
Will Flynn play right back on Saturday if McGinn is still at saints by the transfer window? Most likely

He is no longer first choice right-back at the moment.

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Behave myself? You are the one trying to put a negative spin on every topic on here. Every last topic. Agenda against the board, no praise of players, just negative negative negative. 

Did he play on Sunday? No 
Did he play against Rangers? Yes, because we relied on extra defenders at the back.
Did he play against Broxburn? No
Will Flynn play right back on Saturday if McGinn is still at saints by the transfer window? Most likely
He is no longer first choice right-back at the moment.
He came on Sunday, and was coming back from injury against the mighty Broxburn.
So one proper game out ffs.
Sounds like you'll be pissed off if he opts to stay?

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On 1/28/2020 at 1:21 AM, Dibbles old paperboy said:

Quite disrespectful of Jack 'SMTID' Ross to broadcast his discussions with St Mirren about Paul McGinn before a deal has been concluded... here's hoping Paul does a Goody, talks to Hibs and then decides to stick with the Buddies and Jack is left looking a little less gallus.

At last people are starting to understand the smarmy character of Jack Ross. Good manager for us but never tested in the top league. Totally devoid of loyalty which I have no issue with as he has a living to make but I do have an issue with how he left the club and the timing of that. Yet we had a bus load of fans going down to Sunderland to worship him and boost his already massive ego. Surely recent events will end this man crush once and for all. 

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8 minutes ago, Oldfellow said:

At last people are starting to understand the smarmy character of Jack Ross. Good manager for us but never tested in the top league. Totally devoid of loyalty which I have no issue with as he has a living to make but I do have an issue with how he left the club and the timing of that. Yet we had a bus load of fans going down to Sunderland to worship him and boost his already massive ego. Surely recent events will end this man crush once and for all. 

Bollocks!

Get over yourself.

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47 minutes ago, Oldfellow said:

At last people are starting to understand the smarmy character of Jack Ross. Good manager for us but never tested in the top league. Totally devoid of loyalty which I have no issue with as he has a living to make but I do have an issue with how he left the club and the timing of that. Yet we had a bus load of fans going down to Sunderland to worship him and boost his already massive ego. Surely recent events will end this man crush once and for all. 

No. The only people making these comments about Jack are the ones who acted like 5 years olds dropping their ice cream the day he left.

You won’t find one manager out there who would have rejected the chance to manage Sunderland to stay at St Mirren unless they were a Buddie themselves.

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11 hours ago, Cornwall_Saint said:

No. The only people making these comments about Jack are the ones who acted like 5 years olds dropping their ice cream the day he left.

You won’t find one manager out there who would have rejected the chance to manage Sunderland to stay at St Mirren unless they were a Buddie themselves.

Some managers do turn down offers from bigger clubs and more cash so that they can develop themselves and get more experience with the club they are with before seeking a move to a higher level, e.g Jim Goodwin at Alloa turned down the chance to speak to us when Jack Ross left and he knocked back Dundee a year later. Derek McInnes also ruled himself out of the running of a few bigger, better paid jobs to stay at Aberdeen.

 

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Derek McInnes also ruled himself out of the running of a few bigger, better paid jobs to stay at Aberdeen.
 

......and look where that got him. “Derek Derek get tae f**k.” It’s like Archibald turning down Swindon when he was at Thistle. As much as Ross is a smarmy fecker, moving to Sunderland was the right decision.

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7 hours ago, Dibbles old paperboy said:

Some managers do turn down offers from bigger clubs and more cash so that they can develop themselves and get more experience with the club they are with before seeking a move to a higher level, e.g Jim Goodwin at Alloa turned down the chance to speak to us when Jack Ross left and he knocked back Dundee a year later. Derek McInnes also ruled himself out of the running of a few bigger, better paid jobs to stay at Aberdeen.

 

Jim Goodwin had a well paid part time job alongside the Alloa one, so he wasn’t really going to be much better off financially joining us.

McInnes already had bigger jobs than Aberdeen and struggled. And as stated above, rejecting those jobs hasn’t done him any favours, Dons fans are now trying to hound him out after all the decent seasons he’s given them. Archibald (again mentioned above) is a great example - in the space of 12 months his stock plummeted.

If Jack had guided us to 8th we’d have been delighted. However, that wouldn’t have landed him any sort of decent move to England, never mind one upping his salary by 5 times. In football when a move like this comes they have to take it. Think of Kyle McAllister - the guy barely gets on the pitch now. The offer from Derby came, he had to take it. If he didn’t, and he was suffering the same problems he has now, he would never have the chance to move to a club like Derby again.

The only way clubs like Sunderland would have remained interested in Jack would have been if he landed a place in the Top 6, won one of the cups, or had a regular habit of taking points from Celtic or Sevco. With the overhaul in squad we needed, that was never going to happen.

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With Hodson now signed, it looks very much like Paul will be away and we will get a wee financial reward to cover Hodson's wages and save on Paul's - one of our bigger earners.

He's been a great servant to us this time around - but we need to do what we believe is best.

Personally I'd loan him to Hibs for the rest of the season for a fee, which would include the rule that he could not play against us. :magic

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4 minutes ago, Sweeper07 said:

With Hodson now signed, it looks very much like Paul will be away and we will get a wee financial reward to cover Hodson's wages and save on Paul's - one of our bigger earners.

He's been a great servant to us this time around - but we need to do what we believe is best.

Personally I'd loan him to Hibs for the rest of the season for a fee, which would include the rule that he could not play against us. :magic

I like your line of thinking young man. New found respect. 

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