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12 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:
14 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:
Apparently he doesn't have a view one way or the other.

Just feels the need to stalk and berate you at every opportunity.

I'd carry lube if I was you! Just to be safe! GLS might have discovered Baz up his arse and shat him out!

I certainly smell shite in all his personal vandetta posts!
 
Again more spin from you. I haven't decided how I will vote yet, that doesn't mean I don't have views. 
Rest is clearly just bitterness and a pitiful reverse psychology attempt. 
 

Again no evidence, basis for debate or argument... just noise! Better, best forgotten

You've provided no evidence for your side either, there is nothing concrete that either side currently has.

I am going on what we know so far and hope we will get further clarity. You immediately decided you were against it because your personal view needs to be the contrast to GLS regardless. Evident in your moving goalposts. 

 

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To be honest I thought that post by LPM was probably his most measured I've ever seen, particularly by his standards and the response has turned into the usual borefest of shite after shite. 

I don't think the response would have been the same if the post was made by someone else. Its absolutely tedious now. 

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To be honest I thought that post by LPM was probably his most measured I've ever seen, particularly by his standards and the response has turned into the usual borefest of shite after shite.  I don't think the response would have been the same if the post was made by someone else. Its absolutely tedious now. 

 

And that is what the posters of this shite want! they want buds to turn off, shrug and say ho-hum.They dont want to see buds like you questioning, challenging and winkleing out the facts to enable you to make a considered decision.

Whatever your decision is, don't let the 'Negs' derail it with apathy.

 

P.s. you know every time a posters comments positively on my posts they go feckin ape shit! Oh yes and a bit of Greenock dies too.

 

Edit: see the first post to quote you just makes stuff up that never happened to try and deflect you from considering the merits or not of my post.

 

It's just the whine of apathy, desperate to stop any dissenting voice, or people trying to find a better way. Pop then on ignore.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Slartibartfast said:

It was quite measured by his standards.  Why couldn't he have started like that instead of all the conspiracy and scaremongering shite?  Makes you wonder.

I can filter that, the problem is when him and basil start. Both of them are the same just at opposite ends of the divide. I reckon LPM knows what he's doing, basil seems oblivious though. 

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28 minutes ago, slapsalmon said:

To be honest I thought that post by LPM was probably his most measured I've ever seen, particularly by his standards and the response has turned into the usual borefest of shite after shite. 

I don't think the response would have been the same if the post was made by someone else. Its absolutely tedious now. 

Unfortunately in the case of that particular poster his overwhelming negativity about everything to do with the football club for the past couple of years means his opinion is now pretty much worthless even if there are some salient arguments buried in there somewhere.

Hopefully the members will go along tonight in decent numbers and take in the presentation, ask some questions, and make their own minds up about the proposal.

If you can't be there then I gather it will be made available online for members to digest prior to the vote.

Whether the proposal passes or is defeated the journey towards fan ownership continues.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

And that is what the posters of this shite want! they want buds to turn off, shrug and say ho-hum.They dont want to see buds like you questioning, challenging and winkleing out the facts to enable you to make a considered decision.

Whatever your decision is, don't let the 'Negs' derail it with apathy.

 

P.s. you know every time a posters comments positively on my posts they go feckin ape shit! Oh yes and a bit of Greenock dies too.

 

Edit: see the first post to quote you just makes stuff up that never happened to try and deflect you from considering the merits or not of my post.

 

It's just the whine of apathy, desperate to stop any dissenting voice, or people trying to find a better way. Pop then on ignore.

 

 

The thing is, you crave the reaction. You sprinkle your posts with lies, spin and nonsense in the hope of triggering. I personally am happy to oblige because I self admittedly enjoy this part of BAWA. It is completely clear what you're doing though and you pull the wool over very few peoples eyes.

- People know you are perfectly aware of the caveats regarding some of those five managers.

- They know you're aware there are new income streams.

- They know you're aware that SMFC has progressed on and off the park under GLS.

- They know you don't have information on this arrangement being detrimental to both parties or that Kibble will try and take large profits from the club. 

These comments don't fool people (mostly). they simply know you do it for the reaction and attention.  

 

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Unfortunately in the case of that particular poster his overwhelming negativity about everything to do with the football club for the past couple of years means his opinion is now pretty much worthless even if there are some salient arguments buried in there somewhere.
Hopefully the members will go along tonight in decent numbers and take in the presentation, ask some questions, and make their own minds up about the proposal.
If you can't be there then I gather it will be made available online for members to digest prior to the vote.
Whether the proposal passes or is defeated the journey towards fan ownership continues.
 
 
You see..
More of Gordon's Guys trying to brow beat you with baseless pish. They really dont like it when posters stop and think for themselves. Instead of George"s politician/car salesman mantra 'know your ABC.. I.e.
Always
Be
Selling
I did have a good chuckle at the press conference video on the club site where even Gordon had to try to rein him in and say to the press despite what George says... it's not a done deal.
Of course the media arent interested in that once you've let the cat out of the bag, hence all the 'done deal' comment in the media.
Fifty odd years a buddies, if Gordon's Guys think they can hound me out, they're even more superficial than they sound lol...
I'll be around a lot longer than them!

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37 minutes ago, slapsalmon said:

I can filter that, the problem is when him and basil start. Both of them are the same just at opposite ends of the divide. I reckon LPM knows what he's doing, basil seems oblivious though. 

I feel like you're probably still upset about our last engagement more than anything else... 🤣

3 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

It was more the way he was putting things.  He was saying that they WERE going to happen.  When asked for proof he refused and tried to deflect the burden of proof.  To be fair, Baz does the exact same thing, just from the opposite perspective regarding the club..  It is amusing watching them both ask others for proof, though. :lol

I don't think I ever claim to have evidence when I don't TBF. 

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It was more the way he was putting things.  He was saying that they WERE going to happen.  When asked for proof he refused and tried to deflect the burden of proof.  To be fair, Baz does the exact same thing, just from the opposite perspective regarding the club..  It is amusing watching them both ask others for proof, though. 

Of course you've got 'Proof' of this... It'd be a first lol. Please list these conspiracy theories, I am sure everyone wants to see them laid out.

 

Liue I said before... posters like thus one just want to fill the forum with noise to deflect. They add nothing to debate.

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1 hour ago, bazil85 said:

The thing is, you crave the reaction. You sprinkle your posts with lies, spin and nonsense in the hope of triggering. I personally am happy to oblige because I self admittedly enjoy this part of BAWA. It is completely clear what you're doing though and you pull the wool over very few peoples eyes.

- People know you are perfectly aware of the caveats regarding some of those five managers.

- They know you're aware there are new income streams.

- They know you're aware that SMFC has progressed on and off the park under GLS.

- They know you don't have information on this arrangement being detrimental to both parties or that Kibble will try and take large profits from the club. 

These comments don't fool people (mostly). they simply know you do it for the reaction and attention. 

 

How do you know (for each & every point you've made.)

46 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

I don't think I ever claim to have evidence when I don't TBF. 

Hopefully you have evidence for the above.

I am a wee bit out the loop too, what new income streams are there?

Edited by Kombibuddie

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Unfortunately in the case of that particular poster his overwhelming negativity about everything to do with the football club for the past couple of years means his opinion is now pretty much worthless even if there are some salient arguments buried in there somewhere.
Hopefully the members will go along tonight in decent numbers and take in the presentation, ask some questions, and make their own minds up about the proposal.
If you can't be there then I gather it will be made available online for members to digest prior to the vote.
Whether the proposal passes or is defeated the journey towards fan ownership continues.
 
 
His opinion is worthless?
FFS... Nice bit of impartiality there! People will go along. People will make there own minds up... but when the main man on a discussion forum says that the opinion of any contributor is worthless, lines have been crossed and how far reaching the agenda goes has to be asked.
I know the press release was to essentially confirm the deal as long as the members are compliant... but an endorsement from the forum? Really?

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His opinion is worthless?
FFS... Nice bit of impartiality there! People will go along. People will make there own minds up... but when the main man on a discussion forum says that the opinion of any contributor is worthless, lines have been crossed and how far reaching the agenda goes has to be asked.
I know the press release was to essentially confirm the deal as long as the members are compliant... but an endorsement from the forum? Really?

The ‘Now we have the framework and agreement in principle in place ( That we’ve been working on for months without gauging opinions and declaring) We best tell you so you can vote’

Aye, ok , not what we signed up for.

Our 3 votes remain NO

This underhanded tactic was a wee bit naughty by the club IMO

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His opinion is worthless?
FFS... Nice bit of impartiality there! People will go along. People will make there own minds up... but when the main man on a discussion forum says that the opinion of any contributor is worthless, lines have been crossed and how far reaching the agenda goes has to be asked.
I know the press release was to essentially confirm the deal as long as the members are compliant... but an endorsement from the forum? Really?
Welcome to Conditioning..!

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45 minutes ago, Kombibuddie said:

How do you know (for each & every point you've made.)

Hopefully you have evidence for the above.

I am a wee bit out the loop too, what new income streams are there?

yes there is evidence for all of the above, much of which is on this website. New income streams since the new BOD came in off the top of my head include

- Buddievision

- Stadium sponsorship

- Expanded pre-match entertaining 

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1 minute ago, Slartibartfast said:

I never said you did.  I said that you don't provide evidence.

Happy to provide evidence as available/ needed. Someone that is clearly just trying to be awkward as one of their go to debating techniques, not so much. 

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yes there is evidence for all of the above, much of which is on this website. New income streams since the new BOD came in off the top of my head include
- Buddievision
- Stadium sponsorship
- Expanded pre-match entertaining 
So the pre match generates how much income and in what way?

Oh... You do recall that SMISA funds it don't you? Not the club.

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12 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

So you're admitting that you didn't have any then, good to know.

 

I hadn't even got into "debating" because you wouldn't provide evidence for your assertions (just like LPM does - it's scary how much you two have in common) so there was nothing to "argue" about.  As previously said, that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.  If someone fails to provide evidence for their assertion then there is absolutely no point in considering it (in most cases - obviously, if someone shouts "FIRE" and runs out the door then maybe you should either just believe them or look for the evidence yourself instead of waiting for them to come back).  If things are just your opinion then say so, don't assert things as if they are true (again, both you and LPM do it.  Which one of you is the evil twin?).

Oh dear, spin away… On a subject I thought you were done with, obviously not. Do you need me to evidence that? Lol

First of all, it was an argument. You know it was, I know it was, it went on for a pretty long time yet here we are back.

You still don’t understand/ insist on being awkward on the levels of assertion. The point you wanted me to evidence was on the context of posts from FS to determine if they were suitable for him to get blocked and not in some other weird and wonderful content. I didn’t think for a second you seriously thought he didn’t make posts that Div deemed suitable enough to boot him. Your ask for evidence was purely to stir, it was very obvious. But again, if you genuinely didn’t believe FS was capable of such comments, maybe I gave you too much credit regarding your common sense. Sorry about that.

As I have previously said, there are different levels of assertion and not everything needs a reference point (IMO, if you disagree fine but as I’ve already said I don’t care and I won’t change my view. Yet you are still obsessed with this old point). Something as trivial as this point certainly didn’t, again IMO. But when someone is making a completely unfounded claim that points to knowledge that no one else on the thread seems to have, it’s a different story.

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21 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:

So the pre match generates how much income and in what way?


Oh... You do recall that SMISA funds it don't you? Not the club.

No idea, never claimed to have. it generates income by increasing the interest in younger fans and builds their number in attending games. Hopefully making them lifelong fans. 

I don't distinguish. Very toxic having an us vs them approach to this sort of thing IMO. GLS & SMISA working together to run our football club. We are all one, we all have the same goals for SMFC. 

But on the other points I take it you accept he is wrong? 

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No idea, never claimed to have. it generates income by increasing the interest in younger fans and builds their number in attending games. Hopefully making them lifelong fans. 
I don't distinguish. Very toxic having an us vs them approach to this sort of thing IMO. GLS & SMISA working together to run our football club. We are all one, we all have the same goals for SMFC. 
But on the other points I take it you accept he is wrong? 


No idea, never claimed to have. it generates income by increasing the interest in younger fans and builds their number in attending games. Hopefully making them lifelong fans. 
I don't distinguish. Very toxic having an us vs them approach to this sort of thing IMO. GLS & SMISA working together to run our football club. We are all one, we all have the same goals for SMFC. 
But on the other points I take it you accept he is wrong? 


Let's stick to this point... Seems relevant given your assertion that you back up your claims with evidence.

So here you make a claim.

Asked for facts... You "have no idea"... Then go on to guess.

You couldn't make it up.

Oh. You did!

"It generates income by" is a factual statement.

Back it up fantasy boy! Go on.
Give us the FACTS!

You can't. Can you?

Epic fail. Hypocrite found out!

Ps... "Increasing the interest in younger fans" who are kicked out of the family stand on a regular basis when not only uninvited, but not welcome! Great example of your head up your own arse blind spot synchophantic approach to life as a yes boy to the club.

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Oh dear, spin away… On a subject I thought you were done with, obviously not. Do you need me to evidence that? Lol
First of all, it was an argument. You know it was, I know it was, it went on for a pretty long time yet here we are back.
You still don’t understand/ insist on being awkward on the levels of assertion. The point you wanted me to evidence was on the context of posts from FS to determine if they were suitable for him to get blocked and not in some other weird and wonderful content. I didn’t think for a second you seriously thought he didn’t make posts that Div deemed suitable enough to boot him. Your ask for evidence was purely to stir, it was very obvious. But again, if you genuinely didn’t believe FS was capable of such comments, maybe I gave you too much credit regarding your common sense. Sorry about that.
As I have previously said, there are different levels of assertion and not everything needs a reference point (IMO, if you disagree fine but as I’ve already said I don’t care and I won’t change my view. Yet you are still obsessed with this old point). Something as trivial as this point certainly didn’t, again IMO. But when someone is making a completely unfounded claim that points to knowledge that no one else on the thread seems to have, it’s a different story.
Found out.
Can't answer.
Accuse other person of spin!
So predictable. Yawn!

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