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Potential questions for Kibble proposal meeting 6/2/20

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Question for tomorrow night.
"Is it the duty of the Smisa board to follow the mandate given to it, by its members to take the necessary actions as planned and agreed to purchase 71% shareholding in SMFC?
Simple yes, or no!
A supplementary question regardless of the reply is "then why have you not followed the mandate given to you by the membership to take the necessary actions to purchase 71% shareholding in SMFC?"

Third question. "Who gave you a mandate to negotiate In Secret this fundamental change in what the membership instructed you to do?"

Is Smisa member run, or Scott/Kibble run?

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10 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

Question for tomorrow night.
"Is it the duty of the Smisa board to follow the mandate given to it, by its members to take the necessary actions as planned and agreed to purchase 71% shareholding in SMFC?
Simple yes, or no!
A supplementary question regardless of the reply is "then why have you not followed the mandate given to you by the membership to take the necessary actions to purchase 71% shareholding in SMFC?"

Third question. "Who gave you a mandate to negotiate In Secret this fundamental change in what the membership instructed you to do?"

Is Smisa member run, or Scott/Kibble run?

Not a simple yes or no question. The duty of SMISA is to let it's members decide if the new proposal receives a democratic mandate. 

Supplementary question therefore irrelevant. 

Third question, Duty to consider such proposals and put it to our members, we're a democracy not the dictatorship you seem to want them to be. 

final question. SMISA member. 

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Another one that doesn't give SMFC fans the credit they deserve to make informed decisions. 
also Baz is far from the only one that sides with the club 100% of the time... The quieter voting majority. :whistle
The Chairman doesn't give St Mirren fans the credit they deserve to make informed decisions.

He can't trust us to run the club.

He openly said as much when he expressed concerns about our ability to run the club.

Are you calling him a liar?

ps... Only sociopaths refer to themself in the third person!

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The Chairman doesn't give St Mirren fans the credit they deserve to make informed decisions.

He can't trust us to run the club.

He openly said as much when he expressed concerns about our ability to run the club.

Are you calling him a liar?

ps... Only sociopaths refer to themself in the third person!
Gives you an insight to who Baz is though. " Hi Ho Silver... away"

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7 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:

The Chairman doesn't give St Mirren fans the credit they deserve to make informed decisions.
Disagree, no major concerns and believe the minor ones will be addressed tomorrow. 
He can't trust us to run the club.
He openly said as much when he expressed concerns about our ability to run the club.
Missed this, when did that happen?
Are you calling him a liar?
Nope, I'll give you benefit of the doubt that you'll provide. 
ps... Only sociopaths refer to themself in the third person! emoji23.pngemoji23.pngemoji23.png

Bantz 

 

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A question for Mr Kibble.

"The proposal states you intend to 'Invest' in the club...

How much do you intend to invest?

What specifically do you intend to invest in?

Over what timescale do you intend to invest? (One off, or continual)

what does Kibble expect by way of ROI? (Return On Investment)?

And how will this effect current or future revenue streams that benefit Smfc?

 

 

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On 2/3/2020 at 7:41 PM, aldo_j said:

Can we use the £2 spend to buy LPM a notepad and pen to write questions down on?

I don't think he is a smisa member therefore wouldn't be in attendance. Can tweet away if he likes

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In the press conference to announce the done deal which you can access from the website.

One of the reasons for bringing the "expertise" of the Kibble on board is his concern about the fans lack of expertise or ability to run the club!
Yeah, he never mentioned that in BtB. Like so many other things.

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1 minute ago, BuddieinEK said:

In the press conference to announce the done deal which you can access from the website.

One of the reasons for bringing the "expertise" of the Kibble on board is his concern about the fans lack of expertise or ability to run the club!

Can't see that can you send a link/ copy and paste his actual quote?

What done deal? 

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Not a simple yes or no question. The duty of SMISA is to let it's members decide if the new proposal receives a democratic mandate. 
Supplementary question therefore irrelevant. 
Third question, Duty to consider such proposals and put it to our members, we're a democracy not the dictatorship you seem to want them to be. 
final question. SMISA member. 
Then SMISA should not be steering its members to vote Yes or No.

They shouldn't be giving an opinion of "we think...."

As you said
"The duty of SMISA is to let it's members decide if the new proposal receives a democratic mandate"

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Can't see that can you send a link/ copy and paste his actual quote?
What done deal? 
Intro to press conference...

"Basically we're here to ANNOUNCE this historic deal between SMISA, St Mirren and Kibble".

GLS, " Have you all got the timeline of how this WILL happen?"

Done deal... They will spin tomorrow to make sure.

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33 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:

He can't won't trust us to run the club.

Sorry mate, fixed it for you.

 

36 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:



Are you calling him a liar?

ps... Only sociopaths refer to themself in the third person! emoji23.pngemoji23.pngemoji23.png

quality question. Kombibuddie agrees with you :lol:lol:lol

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6 minutes ago, Kombibuddie said:

Then SMISA should not be steering its members to vote Yes or No.

They shouldn't be giving an opinion of "we think...."

As you said
"The duty of SMISA is to let it's members decide if the new proposal receives a democratic mandate"

That isn't the question he was asking. The deal is a yes or no question. 

Arguments for and against giving opinion. Personally I not only welcome it, I would seek it. Others will be different. 

That doesn't mean they can't advise. 

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2 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

That isn't the question he was asking. The deal is a yes or no question. 

Arguments for and against giving opinion. Personally I not only welcome it, I would seek it. Others will be different. 

That doesn't mean they can't advise. 

SMISA putting this proposal forward stating "Kibble expertise is needed to run the club" (or however they worded it) is the same as

Boris Johnston sticking "£350 Million for the NHS" on the side of a bus

It's absolute horseshite

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6 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:

Intro to press conference...

"Basically we're here to ANNOUNCE this historic deal between SMISA, St Mirren and Kibble".

GLS, " Have you all got the timeline of how this WILL happen?"

Done deal... They will spin tomorrow to make sure.

Which part of that is supposed to say he doesn't trust fans to run the club? 

It's not a done deal, that is you spinning. 

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Which part of that is supposed to say he doesn't trust fans to run the club? 
It's not a done deal, that is you spinning. 
That was in reference to the done deal, which they obviously believe it is.

It wasn't a reference to the trust issue.

Do your own homework there... You seem to have little else to do and my time is too valuable to waste on you.

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5 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:

That was in reference to the done deal, which they obviously believe it is.

It wasn't a reference to the trust issue.

Do your own homework there... You seem to have little else to do and my time is too valuable to waste on you.

So what that tells me is you're likely making it up. Why would you reference one part (that was wrong) and not the other, even after I've said I can't see it? 

Happy for you to provide this to back-up your own claim. I won't hold my breath. 

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12 minutes ago, Kombibuddie said:

SMISA putting this proposal forward stating "Kibble expertise is needed to run the club" (or however they worded it) is the same as

Boris Johnston sticking "£350 Million for the NHS" on the side of a bus

It's absolute horseshite

What do you base that on? 

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3 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

So what that tells me is you're likely making it up. Why would you reference one part (that was wrong) and not the other, even after I've said I can't see it? 

Happy for you to provide this to back-up your own claim. I won't hold my breath. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/st-mirren-chairman-gordon-scott-21392008.amp

 

The thicko St Mirren Fans are mentioned here..........

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So what that tells me is you're likely making it up. Why would you reference one part (that was wrong) and not the other, even after I've said I can't see it? 
Happy for you to provide this to back-up your own claim. I won't hold my breath. 
Please feel free to hold your breath. 15 minutes should do it!

Funny that others have picked up on it yet you refuse to believe it could be true.

Exactly why you are not worth my time. You are not willing to listen or consider any viewpoint but your own.

Now stop doing your usual and polluting an important thread.

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3 minutes ago, HSS said:

Is it this bit??

 

“The worry with fan ownership is always that you get people running the club who don’t know what they’re doing, they don’t have the knowledge. There’s no point in throwing away the knowledge we have.

“As it stands, the current board will be supplemented by two Kibble members and the board will run the club – the fans won’t.”

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Surely when GLS said “The worry with fan ownership is always that you get people running the club who don’t know what they’re doing, they don’t have the knowledge",

he was saying he had absolute faith in the fans as he had from day one... After all, anyone "running the club" would be democratically elected to do so, and Baz is a great fan of democracy!

This will be interesting!

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3 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:

Please feel free to hold your breath. 15 minutes should do it!

Funny that others have picked up on it yet you refuse to believe it could be true.

Exactly why you are not worth my time. You are not willing to listen or consider any viewpoint but your own.

Now stop doing your usual and polluting an important thread.

The funny bit is you not being willing to take the 10 seconds to post a link/ copy a quote. You're like a child sitting in the corner yelling "I know something you don't know" 

I am worth your time, we have covered this. That's incorrect, I fully take people's viewpoints this deal isn't in our best interest, doesn't mean I have to agree with it. 

Could have cut this communication down to three posts if you had sent the requested link. Need to communicate on your side maybe? 

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Is it this bit??
 

“The worry with fan ownership is always that you get people running the club who don’t know what they’re doing, they don’t have the knowledge. There’s no point in throwing away the knowledge we have.

“As it stands, the current board will be supplemented by two Kibble members and the board will run the club – the fans won’t.”

It is entirely right that the board runs the club, not the fans.

The fans own the club and elect members to run it.

However... The new proposal sees fewer fans on the board and ergo, having a lesser voice on how the club is run.

Still... We get to pay our way as owners!

If only we had enough members out of our 1,200 membership with as much ability as two members of a third party who will "run our club".

What would the chances of that be though?

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