St.Ricky Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, HSS said: Seriously? 🤔 Yes.. Seriously. I looked up the cost of a ticket in 1970 and looked at the Average hourly wage then. I looked up the Average hourly wage now and compared it to a ticket price of £20 and then £25 for a ticket. The nearest similarity was to £25. I used a 40 hour average week in 1970 and an average week of 35 hours in 2020. But...i share the view that Munoz has put forward that there are, just now, too many games in too short a period. Finding the time and the money to attend them all is equally challenging. Would I be happy to pay less? If course I would. Might it impact on the team we can field.. Possibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, windae cleaner said: Rory Delap more like That's a good THROW away line. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 17 hours ago, Ayrshire Saints said: Think Hamilton will get at least a point from an Aberdeen team who can't score. Puts pressure on us if they do. Thankfully I was wrong. massive opportunity to put breathing space between us and the bottom two tonight now however it's not really in our DNA to seize chances like this so I think we know what to expect although I would love to be wrong again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Ayrshire Saints said: Thankfully I was wrong. massive opportunity to put breathing space between us and the bottom two tonight now however it's not really in our DNA to seize chances like this so I think we know what to expect although I would love to be wrong again. Hears hoping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 hours ago, shull said: Inflation Indicators from 1970's to present day would have admission prices at around £9. Not £25 NINE IS FINE Wages = Ability to Pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, St.Ricky said: Wages = Ability to Pay As usual there's little or no substance to your simple minded witterings so allow me to correct your arithmetic. Wages minus outgoings = Ability to Pay Ability to Pay minus other options which have risen with inflation rather than wages = Willingness to Pay. If your business model is predicated on Ability to pay rather than Willingness to pay, you are, in the words of Maynard Keynes "fooked". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, oaksoft said: As usual there's little or no substance to your simple minded witterings so allow me to correct your arithmetic. Wages minus outgoings = Ability to Pay Ability to Pay minus other options which have risen with inflation rather than wages = Willingness to Pay. If your business model is predicated on Ability to pay rather than Willingness to pay, you are, in the words of Maynard Keynes "fooked". Oh dear Oaky. I expected any normal person to absorb that. Obviously I was wrong. I forgot about your sequential thought process. Clearly in 1970 there were other living costs, just as there is now. Some things were more expensive... Mortgages for example, others were not. The real debate is about discretionary spending. Edited February 12, 2020 by St.Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, St.Ricky said: Oh dear Oaky. I expected any normal person to absorb that. Obviously I was wrong. I forgot about your sequential thought process. Clearly in 1970 there were other living costs, just as there is now. Some things were more expensive... Mortgages for example, others were not. The real debate is about discretionary spending. Which is exactly what I said when I corrected your initial over simplified post. No idea why you felt the need to witter on for 5 sentences when you really could have said "Yes, Oaky you are correct as usual". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiram Abiff Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, St.Ricky said: Some things were more expensive... Mortgages for example, others were not. Mortgage interest rates might have been higher but as house prices were considerably lower, in real terms, then mortgages weren’t more expensive at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeBud Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Hiram Abiff said: Mortgage interest rates might have been higher but as house prices were considerably lower, in real terms, then mortgages weren’t more expensive at all UK average house price in 1970 was £4,970.00 and in 2019 the average was £233,000.00..... as you say mortgage interest rates have come down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, WeeBud said: UK average house price in 1970 was £4,970.00 and in 2019 the average was £233,000.00..... as you say mortgage interest rates have come down What matters is the ratio of incomes to prices. That drives affordability in 1970 the most common multiple of income in obtaining a mortgage was around 2 5 times the main income with 1 times the second income. By the time of the Crash this ratio had moved to 5 times income with the partner included for some lenders. This ratio has been scaled back since then and rates are very much lower. Saving the deposit was a problem in 1970 and remains a problem for many. Hence the products making a return to the market where a guarantor Gets involved or the Bank of Mum and Dad gets involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luther G. Presley Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Don’t think I’ve ever been so bored reading a match day thread!Anyone know tonight’s lineup yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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munoz Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Eric Arthur Blair said: Very attacking lineup. Good to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintargyll Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Livvy's one weakness is their goalie McCrorie 2-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Good to see Hodson playing, but just hope he is fit enough. Don't want him breaking down during the match, there'll be enough of that on here with elvis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luther G. Presley Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 I like the look of that line up, and Hodson being fit is a bonus, COYS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Hodson fit is both a bonus and worrying that he's back so soon. Bit shocked that McGrath has been dropped, he showed up well enough on Saturday I feel. Maybe he thinks Morias will be more direct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scam75 Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Good to see Wallace fit enough for the bench. Makes you wonder what Chabbi has been up to since he last was "fit".Anyway positive line up and a bench full of attackers. Huge 3 points if we can collect them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Surely we are due a change of luck away from home and get a sneaky wee 1 goal victory.This is only 4th away game I have missed this season my son and best mate took great pleasure in reminding me one of the games I missed was Hamilton away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidebud Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Great that Hodson is fit. Two strikers up front and Morias in the mix as well. Good be exciting stuff. A very attacking line up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 If we get another 3 points before Hamilton get anymore points I would say we are pretty safe from 12th. As couldn't see them overturning what is really a 7 point gap. Good to see Wallace fit enough for the bench. Makes you wonder what Chabbi has been up to since he last was "fit".Anyway positive line up and a bench full of attackers. Huge 3 points if we can collect them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, Eric Arthur Blair said: What a difference from the mess of a starting line up last week. Game could go anyway, as some have mentioned, a wee bit of luck please. Both teams will score, just hope we score more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, scam75 said: Good to see Wallace fit enough for the bench. Makes you wonder what Chabbi has been up to since he last was "fit". Anyway positive line up and a bench full of attackers. Huge 3 points if we can collect them! Wallace has been keeping relatively fit with ourselves and Dundee offering him facilities, he's not up to speed but needs must with cover required in a number of positions. Chabbi on the other hand isn't fit either but we currently have 5 bodies who can play in his position, so it's not as pressing to get him in there until he is ready. Think the plan was always to be pushing for him to maybe make the bench this Saturday, everything else was always going to come too early. My old man noted him out jogging on Saturday morning as he drove past the cricket club and guessed it meant he was still a bit away and Goodwin confirmed he was another week or so off from being where he has to be in his post match interview on Saturday. The 45 mins yesterday for reserves was also planned, regardless of performance... it wasn't a case of hooking him after 45 because he wasn't up to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scam75 Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Wallace has been keeping relatively fit with ourselves and Dundee offering him facilities, he's not up to speed but needs must with cover required in a number of positions. Chabbi on the other hand isn't fit either but we currently have 5 bodies who can play in his position, so it's not as pressing to get him in there until he is ready. Think the plan was always to be pushing for him to maybe make the bench this Saturday, everything else was always going to come too early. My old man noted him out jogging on Saturday morning as he drove past the cricket club and guessed it meant he was still a bit away and Goodwin confirmed he was another week or so off from being where he has to be in his post match interview on Saturday. The 45 mins yesterday for reserves was also planned, regardless of performance... it wasn't a case of hooking him after 45 because he wasn't up to it. I get all that and clearly Goody isn't rushing him in especially with our forward options. And if he comes up trumps and fires us to safety when he finally hits the park then it's a masterstroke.However I do wonder why he is just so unfit. I'm nearly 45, play 5's once a week, and could easily manage 10 mins at the end of a match vs tired opponents! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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