GMan Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 33 minutes ago, Yflab said: I thought you were a scientist and an atheist. Supercilious shitcunt, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, GMan said: That's very interesting, actually. Are the figures female/male or male/female? How amazing it would be if 99.99% of blokes got killed, and left me with millions of horny chicks. I have to beat them off with a shitty stick as it is, but it would be like the Lynx advert....phwoar! male / female As a lesbian myself, I need to fight off horny females everyday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sue Denim said: male / female As a lesbian myself, I need to fight off horny females everyday And here was I thinking that you were a pseudo-person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, smcc said: And here was I thinking that you were a pseudo-person. That's clearly racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Another fcuked up statement from Boris and CummingsBBC News - Government backtracks on French quarantine exemptionhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52682411 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 I thought you were a scientist and an atheist.Think you got the words atheist and arsehole mixed up.[emoji846] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said: Another fcuked up statement from Boris and Cummings BBC News - Government backtracks on French quarantine exemption https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52682411 I'd imagine the next backtracking will be in relation to schools in England being allowed to open on the 1st of June. Edited May 15, 2020 by FTOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 42 minutes ago, FTOF said: I'd imagine the next backtracking will be in relation to schools in England being allowed to open on the 1st of June. BMA backing teachers concerns... Quote The British Medical Association has thrown its weight behind teaching unions opposing the government’s push to reopen schools in England, as the debate over millions of pupils returning to classrooms grew increasingly acrimonious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 44 minutes ago, FTOF said: I'd imagine the next backtracking will be in relation to schools in England being allowed to open on the 1st of June. Coronavirus is the perfect excuse for all these work shy leftie teachers to get an even longer holiday than they’re already used to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sue Denim said: Coronavirus is the perfect excuse for all these work shy leftie teachers to get an even longer holiday than they’re already used to I'll give you "work shy", but "leftie"? That's taking it too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sue Denim Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 I see the BBC headlining with news that the made up R number has increased and it’s been driven upwards by care homes Lets take a hypothetical example 1,000 are infected in the community and pass it on to 2 people 1,000 are infected in care homes and pass it on to 3 people The R number is therefore 2.5 Now let’s say both the number infected and the R number in both reduce You now have 100 infected in the community and they pass it on to 1 person each And there are 900 infected in care homes and they now pass it on to 2.8 people each the R number is now 2.62 So, despite the number infected and the R number in both communities dropping, the total R number has gone up Go figure.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LargsBud Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 39 minutes ago, Sue Denim said: I see the BBC headlining with news that the made up R number has increased and it’s been driven upwards by care homes Lets take a hypothetical example 1,000 are infected in the community and pass it on to 2 people 1,000 are infected in care homes and pass it on to 3 people The R number is therefore 2.5 Now let’s say both the number infected and the R number in both reduce You now have 100 infected in the community and they pass it on to 1 person each And there are 900 infected in care homes and they now pass it on to 2.8 people each the R number is now 2.62 So, despite the number infected and the R number in both communities dropping, the total R number has gone up Go figure.... I don't think they are suggesting that the R number should be looked at in isolation. Its just another data point to consider along side others. Your example is a good example to show why the R number can't be looked at alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 10 hours ago, LargsBud said: I don't think they are suggesting that the R number should be looked at in isolation. Its just another data point to consider along side others. Your example is a good example to show why the R number can't be looked at alone. It's a convenient number that gives politicians a point for the public to focus upon. Given the variable quality of collection and presentation of data and the volume it's being churned out at, it's much easier for the general public to deal with one single figure as a measure of how well or badly things are going. In reality, as has been pointed out, it's subject to so many different factors, that you have to question how valid it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, FTOF said: It's a convenient number that gives politicians a point for the public to focus upon. Given the variable quality of collection and presentation of data and the volume it's being churned out at, it's much easier for the general public to deal with one single figure as a measure of how well or badly things are going. In reality, as has been pointed out, it's subject to so many different factors, that you have to question how valid it is. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-publishes-latest-r-number The R number is estimated and relies on data that is 3 weeks old The calculation also includes deaths and, as can be seen by my gender analysis of deaths, this includes the over reporting of CV deaths which are being used to cover up the enormous collateral number of deaths caused by shutting down the NHS. Infections gives us a good idea of where we are and when you factor in the massive increase in testing now compared with back in March, we can see that this virus appears to be petering out. Had we been doing the same amount of testing from February onwards as we are now, I suspect the peak would have been early March and far higher than the peak shown here. And the thing is, this graph follows the same curve all over the world regardless of the measures taken. Edited May 16, 2020 by Sue Denim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 On 5/15/2020 at 9:33 PM, Sue Denim said: Coronavirus is the perfect excuse for all these work shy leftie teachers to get an even longer holiday than they’re already used to You are an arse. As a conscientious teacher who thinks of her choice as a vocation rather than just a job, my daughter is working twice as hard as she normally does to ensure her charges in all years have an opportunity to continue their learning. She is juggling this with looking after her own children. She would be delighted to be back in the classroom teaching in front of the children. Added to this she has felt the weight of responsibility in evaluating those who were due to sit exams to decide the grades of those children. It's a responsibility you could neither comprehend nor execute. People like you should have their crayons hidden in a place out of reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 54 minutes ago, stlucifer said: You are an arse. As a conscientious teacher who thinks of her choice as a vocation rather than just a job, my daughter is working twice as hard as she normally does to ensure her charges in all years have an opportunity to continue their learning. She is juggling this with looking after her own children. She would be delighted to be back in the classroom teaching in front of the children. Added to this she has felt the weight of responsibility in evaluating those who were due to sit exams to decide the grades of those children. It's a responsibility you could neither comprehend nor execute. People like you should have their crayons hidden in a place out of reach. You're an abusive waster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 50 minutes ago, shull said: You're an abusive waster. But, as you are an idiot, I don't take much notice of your ramblings when you quote posts not intended for you, but I suppose it takes all kinds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, stlucifer said: You are an arse. As a conscientious teacher who thinks of her choice as a vocation rather than just a job, my daughter is working twice as hard as she normally does to ensure her charges in all years have an opportunity to continue their learning. She is juggling this with looking after her own children. She would be delighted to be back in the classroom teaching in front of the children. Added to this she has felt the weight of responsibility in evaluating those who were due to sit exams to decide the grades of those children. It's a responsibility you could neither comprehend nor execute. People like you should have their crayons hidden in a place out of reach. As much as I agree with what you have written, as it sounds similar to what I'm doing, SD's comment was aimed at me specifically, hence why I responded in the flippant manner that I did. Edited May 17, 2020 by FTOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, stlucifer said: You are an arse. As a conscientious teacher who thinks of her choice as a vocation rather than just a job, my daughter is working twice as hard as she normally does to ensure her charges in all years have an opportunity to continue their learning. She is juggling this with looking after her own children. She would be delighted to be back in the classroom teaching in front of the children. Added to this she has felt the weight of responsibility in evaluating those who were due to sit exams to decide the grades of those children. It's a responsibility you could neither comprehend nor execute. People like you should have their crayons hidden in a place out of reach. My post was a joke directed at FTOF, who is a teacher and who I personally know. I have a large supply of crayons so no need to worry. Edited May 17, 2020 by Sue Denim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, FTOF said: As much as I agree with what you have written, as it sounds similar to what I'm doing, SD's comment was aimed at me specifically, hence why I responded in the flippant manner that I did. And you specifically are a work shy leftie who wants an extended holiday!! I’m just work shy... Edited May 17, 2020 by Sue Denim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sue Denim said: And you specifically are a work shy leftie who wants an extended holiday!! Aren't they all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 Been doing some more number crunching. The gender split of hospital Covid deaths is 61/39, male / female. The latest WHO weekly report gives a split of 59/4. If we assume a 60/40 split and assume that all other deaths are 50/50, then, looking at ONS stats from week 12 onwards for England and Wales, we get 16,400 COVID deaths and 30,000 non Covid collateral excess deaths. I subject the gender split is higher. If we use the WHO gender split of ICU admissions which is 70/30 then we get 9,500 Covid deaths and 37,000 non Covid collateral excess deaths. This quite staggering. The government decision to ‘protect the NHS’ is turning out to be a catastrophe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Aren't they all? Whereas you’re just a work shy twat! Edited May 17, 2020 by Sue Denim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 St Lucy is a racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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