stlucifer Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, lenziebud said: Why do you say that ? I'm related to someone who worked directly with Keir Starmer and told me he was as good a person as you can find ? So just wondering why you make that comment as I doubt you have very much evidence for it ? I am referring to his political stance. Not his personality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, stlucifer said: I am referring to his political stance. Not his personality. And what is his political stance ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, lenziebud said: And what is his political stance ? You're asking a question about a question you asked in about a reply I made. A Blairite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, stlucifer said: You're asking a question about a question you asked in about a reply I made. A Blairite. So you are calling him a Blairite and I'm asking you for evidence ? Are you trying to deflect ? Edited May 22, 2020 by lenziebud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, lenziebud said: So you are calling him a Blairite and I'm asking you for evidence ? Are you trying to deflect ? Are you calling him a socialist? From what I've heard from him and what I've read, and this is the only sources I have, he believes in the market forces and trickle down economics. His politics are, at best, just left of centre. just like Blair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, stlucifer said: Are you calling him a socialist? From what I've heard from him and what I've read, and this is the only sources I have, he believes in the market forces and trickle down economics. His politics are, at best, just left of centre. just like Blair. Here this might help https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/11/keir-starmer-tacks-to-left-momentum-makes-its-pick-labour-leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, lenziebud said: Here this might help https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/11/keir-starmer-tacks-to-left-momentum-makes-its-pick-labour-leader No offence but that was a piece written during a leadership contest to woo those who's inkling would be to vote for Rebecca Long-Bailey. I would love to be wrong and find that, if we're stuck with a UK government, it's one with a leadership that truly believes in left wing economic policies. Looking at his front bench I don't see that vision. I would still prefer his labour party in power in place of what we have now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Here this might help https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/11/keir-starmer-tacks-to-left-momentum-makes-its-pick-labour-leaderThat's shows him appealing for the votes of left leaning Labour members and the unions.Blair did likewise.He's definitely a return to "new labour" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Just now, TPAFKATS said: That's shows him appealing for the votes of left leaning Labour members and the unions. Blair did likewise. He's definitely a return to "new labour" No he is a return to Labour being electable ? That is not necessarily being Blairite ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Todays number, 351, gives an average of 342 over the last 7 days. DEFINITELY in the area changes can/should be made. As far as I have seen no other countries have experienced any substantial/sustained rise after reducing lockdown measures, despite the continues scaremongering from some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Keep washing your hands. I did today after eating a fresh cream meringue. I licked my fingers first. Feck New Normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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faraway saint Posted May 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, theknickerwetter said: Now she's whipping up a Twittermob against a journalist who criticised her. Brendan O'Neill Editor 19th May 2020 Share Topics Free Speech Politics UK Hold on. How come when Boris Johnson has a pop at a journalist it’s proof that Britain is descending into Trumpist, demagogic lunacy, yet when Nicola Sturgeon does it she’s hailed as a ‘QUEEN’ bravely defending herself against the Evil Media? Sturgeon got her Trump on in relation to the BBC’s Sarah Smith. On a BBC News broadcast, Ms Smith (very accurately, in my view) said the first minister of Scotland has ‘enjoyed the opportunity’ to set her own lockdown rules and not have to follow England’s lead. Within minutes of her uttering this very mild political observation, the creepy ScotsNat wing of Twitter had exploded and Scottish observers were fuming over the temerity of a journalist to question that bravest of hearts, Nicola Sturgeon. Sturgeon herself, taking a leaf from The Donald’s book, tweeted her queenly displeasure with the uppity Ms Smith. She quote-tweeted someone describing Ms Smith and her BBC report as ‘shameful’ and said that ‘never in my political career have I “enjoyed” something less than this’. Just imagine if Boris, or any other member of his cabinet, had implicitly approved of the branding of a questioning journalist as ‘shameful’. It would be 2021 before we heard the end of it. In this case, though, the chorus of outrage has been on Nic’s side against the cocky reporter. ‘Backlash’, trilled the National. ‘Nicola Sturgeon hits back at BBC journalist’, reported Edinburgh Live. When Boris or Trump criticise journalists, they are being arrogant strongmen and are dragging their countries towards something eerily like fascism. When Sturgeon does it she is bravely hitting back. It can only be a matter of time before some millennial media outlet does a piece on ‘The 10 Times Nicola Sturgeon Snapped Back YAS’. Stupid comment from the media, deservedly getting a response from Sturgeon. I agree there are, seemingly, different rules for different leaders but in isolation the BBC journalist is a half wit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) FORFUXSAKE https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/opinion/britain-coronavirus-minorities.html Edited May 22, 2020 by shull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Covid compared with flu in 99/00 and 98/99 Can @oaksoft check if this is fake? 😂 We locked down for the flu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Deaths in Sweden compared with the Imperial College estimates maybe @oaksoft can check if it’s fake? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sue Denim said: Deaths in Sweden compared with the Imperial College estimates maybe @oaksoft can check if it’s fake? 😂 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/20/sweden-becomes-country-highest-coronavirus-death-rate-per-capita/amp/ yeah we should have modelled on Sweden. We’d have been absolutely fine in a far more densely populated country 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Sue Denim said: Deaths in Sweden compared with the Imperial College estimates maybe @oaksoft can check if it’s fake? 😂 Maybe, instead of getting me to do it, you should do your own research to check the validity of the stream of utter shite you are posting here? Here's your starter for ten. The title of the graph says the Imperial model "might" have made these predictions. "might". Imperial made no such predictions whatsoever and as far as I know have not released the source code for their model so these graphs must be fake. Just a thought, you lazy bastard. Edited May 22, 2020 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 38 minutes ago, Sue Denim said: Covid compared with flu in 99/00 and 98/99 Can @oaksoft check if this is fake? 😂 We locked down for the flu Why would anyone think it was valid to move the covid death curve to winter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 No he is a return to Labour being electable ? That is not necessarily being Blairite ?In the current political climate, the two are pretty well linked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, theknickerwetter said: Yes. Other scientists with qualifications and experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, theknickerwetter said: This guy should be censored Why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 This'll cheer Oaky up no end..................... While I believe this has given considerable moral support in extremely difficult times for the NHS and other workers it's run it's course. This public support shouldn't be underestimated IMO. Providing people with this level of recognition, short term, is immeasurable. The architect of the weekly “clap for carers” gesture has said next Thursday’s show of support should be the last, amid concerns the event has become politicised. Annemarie Plas, a Dutch national living in South London, said she was “overwhelmed” by the support for the cacophonous ritual, but said it was better to stop when it was at “its peak”. She told the PA news agency: “I think it’s good to have the last of the series next Thursday, because to have the most impact I think it is good to stop it at its peak. “Without getting too political, I share some of the opinions that some people have about it becoming politicised. “I think the narrative is starting to change and I don’t want the clap to be negative.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 21 hours ago, faraway saint said: Just heard a piece on TV, the travel "expert" was 99% sure that holidays abroad will be back full throttle after mid July. That's good enough for me, better get looking for a trip later in the year. Decisions decisions. We just remembered our passports are out of date. New passports being applied for in the next day or two. Just as well we remembered, could have been a laugh at the airport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 CLAP FOR THOSE HEROES WHO HAVE RENEWED THEIR ST MIRREN SEASON TICKETS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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