bazil85 Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, Sue Denim said: 5th April Matt Hancock: The Health Secretary said the virus is expected to peak within 10 days but said the ventilator capacity will likely be below 18,000 The Health Secretary has admitted the goal ventilator capacity for 18,000 patients is unlikely to be in place for the expected peak of the virus, despite saying the government scheme is on track. Actual number of ventilators used at peak was 3,301 just 7 days later clueless https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/04/05/ventilator-target-will-not-hit-expected-peak-admits-matt-hancock/ Well done the lockdown for doing its job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Had to make an unscheduled trip into our server centre this afternoon so caught the train. First time in a few weeks and although busier than last time still extremely quiet. About 70/30 wearing masks (yes I did wear mine) but no attempt to enforce the "compulsory " wearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, bazil85 said: Whataboutery. No, a fact, don't you understand facts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said: Had to make an unscheduled trip into our server centre this afternoon so caught the train. First time in a few weeks and although busier than last time still extremely quiet. About 70/30 wearing masks (yes I did wear mine) but no attempt to enforce the "compulsory " wearing. Surprised that people were allowed to board without masks. Not disputing your account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Whataboutery. To be fair to the arbroath epidemiologist I did chose a day. However had I chosen a week or even a month it wouldn't have been better reading for England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 A 30 minute radio show packed with stats about the pandemic's career, so far. hosted by Tim Harford, statistician on Radio 4 and for the FT. Clear, accurate, realistic - interpreting the data to be comprehensible. You need to have the concentration greater than that of an oyster, though... Your decision. [emoji4] https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000kfpy Didn't catch today, however I have listened to the last 3 weeks. A great wee programme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said: 2 hours ago, bazil85 said: Whataboutery. To be fair to the arbroath epidemiologist I did chose a day. However had I chosen a week or even a month it wouldn't have been better reading for England. Thanks Google. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 As I first pointed out back in March. However, the point of test and trace has nothing to do with suppressing the virus. It’s all about pretending that the government is doing something and to try and get folk to return to normality. But just like the wearing of masks - it’s worthless. Indeed, all it does is perpetuate the panic-demic stay alert - refuse to be tested - refuse to wear a mask - save lives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 That’s me and the burd booked up for a couple of nights in the Lake District next week. Looking forward to a visit to the pub again. But before that, I have another multiple household indoor house party this Saturday. What can I say. I’m a very popular guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Surprised that people were allowed to board without masks. Not disputing your account. There is zero enforcement from train or bus companies, been widely publicized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Sue Denim said: That’s me and the burd booked up for a couple of nights in the Lake District next week. Looking forward to a visit to the pub again. But before that, I have another multiple household indoor house party this Saturday. What can I say. I’m a very popular guy. I heard that there are some luxury lodges available in Scotland. Pitlochry and Stonehaven perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 6 hours ago, Ayrshire Saints said: 7 hours ago, faraway saint said: Council Tax rises imminent seemingly. Everyone better dig deep, going to be costly. C/tax rises cannot happen mid financial year and in Scotland are capped. They go up by virtually the maximum permissible every year so nothing new here. Times are a changing.......................Council group warns of 50% council tax rise unless law is changed to help local authorities https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/council-group-warns-50-council-22271462 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sue Denim Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Another fake graph for @oaksoft This shows deaths in northern states in the US and the southern states in the US where there is a panic about rising cases despite many having locked down early Its almost as if the virus is following seasonality. Funny that..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Mexico locked down at the same time as the UK Its almost as if the virus has ignored the lockdown and followed seasonality. Funny that..... How could countries have been so stupid to go into a lockdown out with the virus’ season only to start coming out before the peak? The stupidity of governments worldwide.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Times are a changing.......................Council group warns of 50% council tax rise unless law is changed to help local authorities https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/council-group-warns-50-council-22271462I sit in meetings with COSLA representatives monthly. They are extreme pesimists constantly berating a lack of cash. The article admits it would need a law change and it's being championed by a labour MSP. 50% will never happen. I'd be stunned with even 20% of that. It's the start of horse trading with the SG over Covid mitigation funds. Expect a lot more of those sort of headlines from COSLA and the LAs in the lead up to budget time in December Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, Ayrshire Saints said: 35 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Times are a changing.......................Council group warns of 50% council tax rise unless law is changed to help local authorities https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/council-group-warns-50-council-22271462 I sit in meetings with COSLA representatives monthly. They are extreme pesimists constantly berating a lack of cash. The article admits it would need a law change and it's being championed by a labour MSP. 50% will never happen. I'd be stunned with even 20% of that. It's the start of horse trading with the SG over Covid mitigation funds. Expect a lot more of those sort of headlines from COSLA and the LAs in the lead up to budget time in December There's a gaping hole, cash will be needed or massive cuts are ahead. You don't get nothing for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 There's a gaping hole, cash will be needed or massive cuts are ahead. You don't get nothing for nothing.Absolutely hence the horse trading has started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said: 1 hour ago, faraway saint said: There's a gaping hole, cash will be needed or massive cuts are ahead. You don't get nothing for nothing. Absolutely hence the horse trading has started. I admire your restraint in concentrating on the paucity of sense in his argument rather than his grammatical errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 Australia having a localised lockdown in Melbourne. It seems small outbreaks can happen anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 15 hours ago, faraway saint said: No, a fact, don't you understand facts? 14 hours ago, faraway saint said: Thanks Google. I didn't say it wasn't, I said it was whataboutery. I made a point, you pretty much said "what about this other point" That's whataboutery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 12 hours ago, Sue Denim said: Mexico locked down at the same time as the UK Its almost as if the virus has ignored the lockdown and followed seasonality. Funny that..... How could countries have been so stupid to go into a lockdown out with the virus’ season only to start coming out before the peak? The stupidity of governments worldwide.... Looks like someone forgot to tell Covid19 that it was summer in Alabama, Florida, Texas and a bunch of other US states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, bazil85 said: Looks like someone forgot to tell Covid19 that it was summer in Alabama, Florida, Texas and a bunch of other US states Seasonal don't you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 I said that the increase in cases in Leiecester was down to increased testing. Once you start testing more people beyond hospital and care home settings then you fill find more cases. And what do we find? The investigation into the reason behind the rise in cases in Leicester says it’s down to "growth in availability of testing" in Leicester..... Doh! The increase is most marked in age group under 19s..... an age group for which the vast majority are asymptomatic and the remainder get a cold FFS So you start testing an age group you weren’t testing before, you test them and lo and behold.... you find a handful of them are positive cases Doh! Other than the increase in testing, the report finds “There is no obvious source for a recent surge in coronavirus cases” Doh! The virus has been here for months. Why the feck did they think they could find the source? Utterly ridiculous. Its clear that the people running this country have absolutely no idea what they are doing Yet people continue to believe the shite being fed to them by the governments and the media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 From SAGE minutes on 4th June: ”Potentially one half of hospital admissions labelled as COVID admissions are readmissions or not acute COVID admissions. It is necessary to understand how the NHS is recording these patients to know if this data is distorting modelling work” FFS...... And this is what government policy is based on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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