smcc Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, oaksoft said: I wouldn't know. I made it a policy never to hire anyone outside the family. You can never trust an employee. Does that mean that you don't trust your family? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, faraway saint said: Short term, let's not panic, there's plenty of stuff, including toilet rolls, to get us through Christmas. Taking no chances. Did a very big shop today to get us through to the end of January. Two full trolleys. Just as well we have a big fridge and lots of storage. Enough toilet paper to decorate three rooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, smcc said: Does that mean that you don't trust your family? That doesn't even make sense. They were all operating as sole traders with an equal share of the profits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, oaksoft said: That doesn't even make sense. They were all operating as sole traders with an equal share of the profits. You still haven't said whether you trust them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, oaksoft said: I wouldn't know. I made it a policy never to hire anyone outside the family. You can never trust an employee. That sums your inadequacies up right there. Nepotism rarely works, never mind 100% nepotism, you get the wrong people in the wrong place, reducing efficiency and operating at reduced capacity. Suppose that's why you wrapped things up. Edited December 21, 2020 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, smcc said: You still haven't said whether you trust them. I don't ask much of people but if you want me to answer your post it needs to be interesting, clever or funny. If I don't respond it's usually because it's failed to hit one or more of those. Edited December 21, 2020 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Blair Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 Who are you really Sue Denim? That sounds like a pseudonym to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 51 minutes ago, Sue Denim said: I’m no more likely to pass on covid and kill someone than any other virus. If you feel that passionate about it, I’m assuming you’ll be social distancing, wearing a mask and not entering someone else’s house ever again? Nope i'll be getting a vaccine. Guess you won't, no need eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 29 minutes ago, oaksoft said: I wouldn't know. I made it a policy never to hire anyone outside the family. You can never trust an employee. Yep thats because nobody else would hire them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, faraway saint said: That sums your inadequacies up right there. Nepotism rarely works, never mind 100% nepotism, you get the wrong people in the wrong place, reducing efficiency and operating at reduced capacity. Suppose that's why you wrapped things up. Nope. I wrapped things up because I lucked out and someone offered and paid us a ridiculous amount of money for our business. Be happy for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, lenziebud said: Yep thats because nobody else would hire them Jesus, your patter is rotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Jesus, your patter is rotten. Its not patter its fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Nope. I wrapped things up because I lucked out and someone offered and paid us a ridiculous amount of money for our business. Be happy for me. I usually do feel happy for people in these circumstances but you are a huge exception to that rule. You really don't come across as likeable in any way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 I don’t really get the toilet roll thing? When I was young toilet roll was a luxury! It’s was izal or newspaper ( I feel a monty python sketch coming on 😂) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 Taking no chances. Did a very big shop today to get us through to the end of January. Two full trolleys. Just as well we have a big fridge and lots of storage. Enough toilet paper to decorate three rooms. Answer......? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 The 4th round of Spain's big serologic survey Is out https://portalcne.isciii.es/enecovid19/informes/informe_cuarta_ronda.pdf Of those in hospital with covid for 7 days or less, 87% didn’t have covid 56% of long stay covid hospitalisations didn’t have covid either And 53% of covid ICU hospitalisations didn’t have covid Pseudo epidemic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Sue Denim said: The 4th round of Spain's big serologic survey Is out https://portalcne.isciii.es/enecovid19/informes/informe_cuarta_ronda.pdf Of those in hospital with covid for 7 days or less, 87% didn’t have covid 56% of long stay covid hospitalisations didn’t have covid either And 53% of covid ICU hospitalisations didn’t have covid Pseudo epidemic If you offered a translated version it might have been more credible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Sue Denim said: No, I don’t accept any of that. It’s all mainly an artefact of testing. I’ve explained this countless times. Excess deaths is the real measure and excess deaths do not support covid deaths. Well which is it? Are you using those Welsh facts as somehow creating your point that Covid hospital admissions aren't a concern or do you reject those statistics and claim there are not nearly 1/3 of patient in Welsh hospitals with Covid? You again back yourself into a corner. Excess deaths categorically do support Covid deaths. For your ridiculous theory to be correct, it has to be either coincidental that we are hurdling towards 100,000 excessive deaths since the pandemic started or you would need to evidence other related cause(s) that miraculously stopped in the summer as well when Covid cases dropped. You have never given a solution to this issue, no evidence backs up an alternative solution and you are going against practically every related bit of scientific research. Even scientists arguing for restrictions to end aren't claiming the majority of these excessive deaths aren't something other than Covid. So what is your alternative claim and where is the science that backs it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 Another interesting piece from the Spanish survey. The group with LESS infections was those NEVER using a mask, 3% Vs 3.8% ALWAYS users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, antrin said: If you offered a translated version it might have been more credible. Only scientific surveys written in English are credible? Bit racist 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Sue Denim said: The 4th round of Spain's big serologic survey Is out https://portalcne.isciii.es/enecovid19/informes/informe_cuarta_ronda.pdf Of those in hospital with covid for 7 days or less, 87% didn’t have covid 56% of long stay covid hospitalisations didn’t have covid either And 53% of covid ICU hospitalisations didn’t have covid Pseudo epidemic So even by your own evidence (which I will assume for now because I don't speak Spanish) 44% of long stay hospitalisations had Covid 47% of ICU hospitalisation had Covid. Will you now surely accept that your "pandemic is over" claim is categorically false? That's several of your own sources that contradict your claim. Edited December 21, 2020 by bazil85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just now, Sue Denim said: Only scientific surveys written in English are credible? Bit racist 😜 Well, I would give it equally scant respect if it had been written in Klingon. I does not compute for me. You are not convincing me nor many others in this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, bazil85 said: Well which is it? Are you using those Welsh facts as somehow creating your point that Covid hospital admissions aren't a concern or do you reject those statistics and claim there are not nearly 1/3 of patient in Welsh hospitals with Covid? You again back yourself into a corner. Excess deaths categorically do support Covid deaths. For your ridiculous theory to be correct, it has to be either coincidental that we are hurdling towards 100,000 excessive deaths since the pandemic started or you would need to evidence other related cause(s) that miraculously stopped in the summer as well when Covid cases dropped. You have never given a solution to this issue, no evidence backs up an alternative solution and you are going against practically every related bit of scientific research. Even scientists arguing for restrictions to end aren't claiming the majority of these excessive deaths aren't something other than Covid. So what is your alternative claim and where is the science that backs it up? No idea what you are on about in your first paragraph. Second paragraph, my point is solely about the pseudo second wave. Indeed, the large number of excess deaths in the Spring and it’s correlation with covid deaths a d the lack of either in the pseudo second wave is my very point. And as usual, you provide not a single bit of evidence whatsoever in your post. Provide evidence and I will respond. Your opinion - which I disagree with - isn’t evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sue Denim said: Only scientific surveys written in English are credible? Bit racist 😜 More you have no credibility on this page. You very often change words like "could" and "may" for "will" No confidence you wouldn't do similar just because it's in Spanish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, antrin said: Well, I would give it equally scant respect if it had been written in Klingon. I does not compute for me. You are not convincing me nor many others in this forum. The fact that you aren’t convinced doesn’t alter the truth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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