faraway saint Posted April 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Todays numbers are 360, a very welcome drop for a "non weekend" day. Lowest daily numbers on four weeks. If we can get a consistent run of numbers, not forgetting every one is a person leaving behind relatives and friends, in this area I believe that the current lock down conditions will be relaxed. After that, well, this is where we CAN watch other countries and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, insaintee said: I know myself and I'm an expert in Public heath Edited April 27, 2020 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Just now, Yflab said: Could have been worse......he may have written ....an expert in pubic health! I was going to change that but it was funny enough on it's own. 2 things, never trust a man with a pony tail and stay away from any person who tells you they are an expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 25 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said: Yes, you point out uncertainties, differences as well as similarities. The problem is where none of these are made clear in the comparisons as there is an agenda behind the reason for posting certain stats. Unfortunately, for most cases, the many uncertainties/differences between the sources of data from different countries has not been pointed out. With the phrase "Look what's happening in Italy" being one of the most erroneous and most unfortunate comparisons of them all. Sadly agendas are all too common place, and that is why certain comparisons of data should not be quoted almost as absolute proof that something is definitely working, by people who should know better. We're not going to agree on this. I've made my view clear, so I'll leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Oh FFS. So now you know better than someone who has been working constantly with both governments on how well* prepared we were. *or badly. Edited April 27, 2020 by FTOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 51 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Exactly. Utterly bizarre to watch both FTOF and Faraway use comparisons with other countries when it suits them but then criticise everyone else for doing exactly the same thing. What's more bizarre is you accusing me of doing something that I haven't. Feel free to check all of my posts on this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Yflab said: Should that not read..... ”on how badly prepared we were.” Could be, or could be that we were not very "well" prepared. But it's O.K. he knows better than a senior infection control nurse with many years experience in working with health protection Scotland. Edited April 27, 2020 by FTOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 I'm starting to get this feeling that once the government starts lifiting aspects of the lockdown that a lot of people are going to treat its as back to normal ? Think a second peak is looking inevitable ? Possibly even a third ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Unfortunately, for most cases, the many uncertainties/differences between the sources of data from different countries has not been pointed out. With the phrase "Look what's happening in Italy" being one of the most erroneous and most unfortunate comparisons of them all. Sadly agendas are all too common place, and that is why certain comparisons of data should not be quoted almost as absolute proof that something is definitely working, by people who should know better. We're not going to agree on this. I've made my view clear, so I'll leave it at that.If you look back to my post re Sweden this morning I clearly identified between that and my follow up post why I had mentioned Sweden and also why I had chosen it's neighbours.Given that, I'm not sure we are actually disagreeing. Unless you think absolutely no countries can be compared at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 I'm starting to get this feeling that once the government starts lifiting aspects of the lockdown that a lot of people are going to treat its as back to normal ? Think a second peak is looking inevitable ? Possibly even a third ?Likely, especially if its lifted too soon.I suspect gov are realising that more and more are gradually lifting their own lockdown. They know that as long as majority don't, it will (hopefully) stop further waves of infection overwhelming NHS and critical care in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Okay here it is again , hosted by a different site . However , i would wager you still wont watch it becuase you have closed your mind . .Hahaha [/url] And then , here is a rather emminent Swedish doc talking about disease and lockdowns. . just something else you would never listen to Are you seriously trying to persuade me to watch you tube videos by telling me that I won't because 1 my mind is closed and 2 because its something I will never listen to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, lenziebud said: I'm starting to get this feeling that once the government starts lifiting aspects of the lockdown that a lot of people are going to treat its as back to normal ? Think a second peak is looking inevitable ? Possibly even a third ? I agree, and have been slightly disappointed at the recent terms used by the media. They have been putting it to both the UK and Scottish governments that there's a demand for the lock down to be relaxed, without any evidence. I was glad the PM made it VERY clear today there's no sign of this happening. As @TPAFKATS indicates, the hope is any numbers that happen after the lock down is relaxed can be handled by the NHS, albeit still tragic for anyone's family. Edited April 27, 2020 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Of course not , how could i ever get you to change your mind , however prejudicial it may be Once upon a time not that long ago (certainly within your lifetime), this was a country that was world renowned for free speech and debateHaha classic.Turn it round to imply that free ad peech is being eroded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Sorry , what are you trying to say , it looks like an invented word is in thereIt's just a wee typo. They happen all the time due to auto correct and keypads on phones.Sausage fingers are also a factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 minute ago, theknickerwetter said: Sorry , what are you trying to say , it looks like an invented word is in there If you can't work it out, poor you1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 BBC Scotland need to get some lessons on graphs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 51 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said: BBC Scotland need to get some lessons on graphs. That is quite misleading but a log scale is the only way they could have shown them all together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 That is quite misleading but a log scale is the only way they could have shown them all together.Not sure what they were trying to achieve. There's no real need for the graph within the report.Usually though when you corrupt the scale that much type its deliberately deceiving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Oh dear, I wonder how they will spin this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 Just done, and watched, the minutes silence for the NHS/care workers who have died in this crises. Apologies to Oaky, I didn't know all their names but still felt it was worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted April 28, 2020 Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 Oh dear, I wonder how they will spin this? Pretty damming findings from panorama last night.Still folk saying we can't criticise government though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 12 hours ago, ALBIONSAINT said: Oh dear, I wonder how they will spin this? Shocking, Gordon Brown's government should be held to account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 28, 2020 Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, faraway saint said: Just done, and watched, the minutes silence for the NHS/care workers who have died in this crises. Apologies to Oaky, I didn't know all their names but still felt it was worthwhile. He’s cringing as we speak at how people can have any emotional attachment to people they don’t know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted April 28, 2020 Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 Well that's it - Scotland is the first part of the UK to recommend the use of face masks. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/scotland-becomes-first-uk-nation-to-officially-recommend-use-of-face-coverings/ar-BB13jCcP?ocid=spartanntp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Bud the Baker said: Well that's it - Scotland is the first part of the UK to recommend the use of face masks. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/scotland-becomes-first-uk-nation-to-officially-recommend-use-of-face-coverings/ar-BB13jCcP?ocid=spartanntp Face covering, not quite the same. Where's my old socks? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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