oaksoft Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Sue Denim said: 2019/2020 v 2017/18 week by week and cumulative Spot the difference.... You are using two completely different vertical scales so you can't meaningfully compare them in this way, no matter how nicely those graphs appear to back your view. You need some form of normalisation on both graphs first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 hour ago, bazil85 said: Isolate the period where Covid19 hit the USA bad & you’ll see the difference. Anything before is irrelevant because naturally death rates will be impacted by different things. No, that won't work either. You need to normalise both graphs first. That's the only valid approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, oaksoft said: This is what happens when you don't post your sources and tell people to use Google. Andy might be a dick but at least he is saying where his info is coming from. Might be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, oaksoft said: No, that won't work either. You need to normalise both graphs first. That's the only valid approach. You'd still need to isolate the like for like. Andy has been guilty of things like this before, death rates that go back to autumn 2019 for example. It's designed to distort the data to fit his agenda. Please tell me you're not going to start agreeing with him now and still claim your arguments with me aren't based on previous established feelings? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, bazil85 said: You'd still need to isolate the like for like. Andy has been guilty of things like this before, death rates that go back to autumn 2019 for example. It's designed to distort the data to fit his agenda. Please tell me you're not going to start agreeing with him now and still claim your arguments with me aren't based on previous established feelings? 🤣 I don't need you to mansplain statistics for me. I've been debunking Andy's graphs for ages. He already has like for like on the horizontal axis. You would want to zoom in but it's nowhere near the biggest problem on his graph. Take that second paragraph and stick it. Edited June 1, 2020 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, oaksoft said: He already has like for like on the horizontal axis. You would want to zoom in but it's nowhere near the biggest problem on his graph. Take that second paragraph and stick it. Sheesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 53 minutes ago, oaksoft said: You are using two completely different vertical scales so you can't meaningfully compare them in this way, no matter how nicely those graphs appear to back your view. You need some form of normalisation on both graphs first. I didn’t ask you to compare them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 37 minutes ago, oaksoft said: I don't need you to mansplain statistics for me. I've been debunking Andy's graphs for ages. And failed every time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 2/15/2020 at 9:53 AM, faraway saint said: What a fuss about the flu, not a lot happening to see this warrant the amount of coverage and panic. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 4:05 PM, Ayrshire Saints said: I suggest you stock up on tins, tape up the windows and doors and hunker down for a few weeks. Meanwhile in the real world the rest of us will continue about our normal business taking the self same life precautions we always do. The media / social media lead hysteria is off the scale. Imagine if a real plague emerged in the developed world, it would be armageddon stuff. Let's just concentrate on making it to Hampden. Some sensible advice before he succumbed to the hysteria 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 6:53 PM, djchapsticks said: It's a severe flu virus FFS. I can't believe the level folk are losing their minds at. Influenza kills tens of thousands every year as well. Unless you have a weak constitution that causes it to be life threatening, you're going to be floored by it if you catch it and then get over it in a few weeks. Well said dj Just a pity that most folk didn’t keep this sense of perspective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sue Denim said: 👍 Another correct prediction from Faraway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 2/29/2020 at 9:34 AM, Ayrshire Saints said: I make no claim whatsoever to be a medical expert. Just pointed out that whilst acknowledging the virus I am not changing my normal routines and there is definite hysteria being media driven trying to whip the nation into a frenzy of panic. That's the problem with 24hr news channels. Too much time and too little news. Called it right again before succumbing to the frenzy of panic maybe he watched too much 24 hour news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 3/8/2020 at 8:15 PM, TPAFKATS said: Welsh Rugby captain Alun Wyn Jones had some unnecessary human interaction in his hot spot yesterday. Some classic TPAFTWAT homophobia earlier in the thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Sue Denim said: Some classic TPAFTWAT homophobia earlier in the thread Tragic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 minute ago, faraway saint said: Tragic. Homophobia, misogyny and racism all in the same thread he’s some guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) Todays number, 111, continues to suggest things are under control. Scaremongering about spikes and 2nd waves should be kept in the land of fantasy.....................for now. Edited June 1, 2020 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Deary me. I’m just cringing for you. England’s death rate has been less than 20% higher than Scotland’s. In what way does the inclusion of the word “almost” mitigate your lies and stupidity? [emoji2] You’re embarrassing yourself with each wriggle you make Please keep it up though. It’s funny. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji2]Are you incapable if telling the difference between 3 and 5? You appear to have mixed them up twice in the one post.#Thickasfuch right enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Clearly, the best policy for [mention=536]TPAFKATS[/mention] would have been to either own up to his mistake or just ignore his mistake altogether But to keep digging like this actually highlights that the guy is very very stupid and he clearly doesn’t understand what he’s talking about I’ve wasted enough time on the imbecile. He’ll make more posts confirming his stupidity I’m sure. I’ll let the forum enjoy it. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji2]The only person enjoying your push is creepy from arbroath.You make a lovely couple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said: The only person enjoying your push is creepy from arbroath. You make a lovely couple Having a nightmare, telling lies, running scared and digging a hole deeper and deeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Some classic TPAFTWAT homophobia earlier in the thread Pathetic.You really need help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 No, that won't work either. You need to normalise both graphs first. That's the only valid approach.Is there a reason why he's gone from UK data over 5 years to talking about 3 years to now quoting a graph with US data? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 10 hours ago, TPAFKATS said: Creepy from arbroath behaving like a puppy wanting my attention again? It's what the Wee man craves. Does it stem from his childhood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Another 445 deaths added to the total today. Its now just a footnote to Hancocks daily briefing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 5/31/2020 at 9:17 PM, faraway saint said: As I said, people will believe what suits their agenda. You're not seriously saying that the data has to be EXACT to be of any use in this situation? PS I did say within reason, not that suits your agenda. Quote Biostatistician Professor Sheila Bird of Aberdeen University said delay in the reporting of deaths from the virus meant there was a risk of misunderstanding any epidemic trend. 23 hours ago, theknickerwetter said: You really ought now to stop reading the Gua*d*a* , it really is making you hysterical and there are the fools who mistakenly attribute the quote to Mark Twain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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