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faraway saint 30,171 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 WTF is going on, just watched a wee bit of the Standard Liege v Rangers game, people in attendance. Last night in Austria there were fans and, as far as I know Germany also allow fans to attend. How come we in the UK don't? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yflab 4,494 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, faraway saint said: WTF is going on, just watched a wee bit of the Standard Liege v Rangers game, people in attendance. Last night in Austria there were fans and, as far as I know Germany also allow fans to attend. How come we in the UK don't? We can’t be trusted by those in power. It’s a joke that indoor venues like the Albert Hall can reopen with reduced audience but football in large open air venues can’t. Don’t get me started on the west end theatres.....https://www.londontheatre.co.uk/theatre-news/news/live-theatre-unaffected-by-new-coronavirus-restrictions let’s riot! Edited October 22, 2020 by Yflab 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faraway saint 30,171 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Yflab said: We can’t be trusted by those in power. It’s a joke that indoor venues like the Albert Hall can reopen with reduced audience but football in large open air venues can’t. let’s riot! It's been on a downward spiral for months now, more and more mixed messages, no consistency and certain sectors getting hammered unnecessarily. Where's the strong evidence that attending outside events is a serious issue and, if it is, why are other countries getting on with it? I have had a lot of time for Leitch on the Scottish side but to even suggest Christmas could be "digital" is another fcuk up we could do without. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eastlandssaint 2,060 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/analysis-nicola-sturgeon-faced-dilemma-after-jason-leitchs-digital-christmas-comments-3012310 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Tommy 3,547 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 Looked like my holiday to Lanzarote will go ahead next month Very surprise the Gov had opened the door for it but I am certainly not complaining. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Yflab 4,494 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/22/toilet-roll-sales-rise-by-more-than-a-fifth-amid-new-uk-covid-19-restrictions 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yflab 4,494 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 I’m worried about Oaky.... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oaksoft 13,086 Report post Posted October 23, 2020 4 hours ago, eastlandssaint said: https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/analysis-nicola-sturgeon-faced-dilemma-after-jason-leitchs-digital-christmas-comments-3012310 Jason is getting too big for his boots. It's not going to be his call regarding whether Christmas is cancelled or not, that's Nicola's job, but bizarrely he seems to think it is. The power is going to his head and he needs his neck firmly yanked back into place. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cookie Monster 1,194 Report post Posted October 23, 2020 Jason is getting too big for his boots. It's not going to be his call regarding whether Christmas is cancelled or not, that's Nicola's job, but bizarrely he seems to think it is. The power is going to his head and he needs his neck firmly yanked back into place.Just read that story, and the amount of snippets taken out of context was embarrassing. Even I never wrote anything as biased as that, and my remit was to inject humour in my report.As for Christmas, I thought you and your family had cancelled that years ago. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faraway saint 30,171 Report post Posted October 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: Just read that story, and the amount of snippets taken out of context was embarrassing. Even I never wrote anything as biased as that, and my remit was to inject humour in my report. As for Christmas, I thought you and your family had cancelled that years ago. This is what he said, when a large amount of the public are already losing faith this was an unnecessary error. No matter how realistic it MIGHT be, saying this at this stage is just utterly stupid. He initially said it was "honestly too early to say" what would happen at Christmas, but sounded a note of caution over the prospect of measures being eased significantly over the winter. He said: "I'm hopeful costs now may get us a more family Christmas. But Christmas is not going to be normal, there's absolutely no question about that. "We are not going to be in large family groupings, with multiple families coming round - that is fiction for this year. "I'm hopeful that if we can get numbers down to a certain level we may be able to get some form of normality. But people should get their digital Christmas ready." 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faraway saint 30,171 Report post Posted October 23, 2020 I'm allowed to go to work, mix with numerous people. I can't have family round on Christmas day. Better cancel that massive turkey. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ayrshire Saints 4,684 Report post Posted October 23, 2020 Jason is getting too big for his boots. It's not going to be his call regarding whether Christmas is cancelled or not, that's Nicola's job, but bizarrely he seems to think it is. The power is going to his head and he needs his neck firmly yanked back into place.It looks like a clearly orchestrated strategy to me. He's been told to drop that little bomb yesterday in the sure knowledge the press would pick up on it instantly. It worked as 1st question yesterday to NS gave her the perfect platform to emphasise the real narrative ie "it's a real possibility BUT to reduce that possibility as much as possible we all must follow the new guidelines". The fact he said 24hrs before that early indication was measures were starting to slow infections merely confirmed this was a planned, strategic "slip" intended to let NS emphasise the core message. They know full well Christmas household restrictions won't be followed hence the big push now to "save Christmas". I'm astonished the press in general (to be fair the BBC lunchtime news ran with the "saving Christmas" line rather than the "cancelled or digital" line) are so gullible but the daily questions show just how insipid and inept they are and thus so easy to be used in this manner. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oaksoft 13,086 Report post Posted October 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: Just read that story, and the amount of snippets taken out of context was embarrassing. Even I never wrote anything as biased as that, and my remit was to inject humour in my report. As for Christmas, I thought you and your family had cancelled that years ago. Absolutely. The key phrase being the bit in bold. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oaksoft 13,086 Report post Posted October 23, 2020 48 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said: It looks like a clearly orchestrated strategy to me. He's been told to drop that little bomb yesterday in the sure knowledge the press would pick up on it instantly. It worked as 1st question yesterday to NS gave her the perfect platform to emphasise the real narrative ie "it's a real possibility BUT to reduce that possibility as much as possible we all must follow the new guidelines". The fact he said 24hrs before that early indication was measures were starting to slow infections merely confirmed this was a planned, strategic "slip" intended to let NS emphasise the core message. They know full well Christmas household restrictions won't be followed hence the big push now to "save Christmas". I'm astonished the press in general (to be fair the BBC lunchtime news ran with the "saving Christmas" line rather than the "cancelled or digital" line) are so gullible but the daily questions show just how insipid and inept they are and thus so easy to be used in this manner. Orchestrated or not, that flippant line about "digital Christmas" would have quite understandably infuriated people everywhere. I'm quite surprised the papers didn't go for a full attack on the use of that phrase too. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yflab 4,494 Report post Posted October 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Absolutely. The key phrase being the bit in bold. Out of interest where do you get any enjoyment in life? You don’t celebrate Christmas, have sex or go to the football. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faraway saint 30,171 Report post Posted October 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Ayrshire Saints said: It looks like a clearly orchestrated strategy to me. He's been told to drop that little bomb yesterday in the sure knowledge the press would pick up on it instantly. It worked as 1st question yesterday to NS gave her the perfect platform to emphasise the real narrative ie "it's a real possibility BUT to reduce that possibility as much as possible we all must follow the new guidelines". The fact he said 24hrs before that early indication was measures were starting to slow infections merely confirmed this was a planned, strategic "slip" intended to let NS emphasise the core message. They know full well Christmas household restrictions won't be followed hence the big push now to "save Christmas". I'm astonished the press in general (to be fair the BBC lunchtime news ran with the "saving Christmas" line rather than the "cancelled or digital" line) are so gullible but the daily questions show just how insipid and inept they are and thus so easy to be used in this manner. You must be dizzy trying to spin this as much as that. 😂😂😂 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ayrshire Saints 4,684 Report post Posted October 23, 2020 You must be dizzy trying to spin this as much as that. Spin ? Why ? I've no idea whether it's a good or bad strategy but it looks fairly obvious to me. Leitch might be sanctimonious but he is most definitely not daft and his language is likely to have been carefully thought through to create as much as a stir as possible thus giving the SG the chance to create some classic White Knighting via the saving Christmas line.I've long since given up supporting or being anti measures as it is a 100% waste of breath and you just need to look on SM to see how affected some folk are getting by their constant extreme stance either way hence I am posting less and less as we have zero control on it, what will be will be and this despite me nearing the end of 2 weeks house arrest / quarantine thus having time on my hands. I'm just surprised more folk didn't see yesterday's plot for what it is especially the more cynical ! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cookie Monster 1,194 Report post Posted October 23, 2020 Out of interest where do you get any enjoyment in life? You don’t celebrate Christmas, have sex or go to the football. You actually answered that yourself, or has it been that long since you were at a game. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cookie Monster 1,194 Report post Posted October 23, 2020 I'm allowed to go to work, mix with numerous people. I can't have family round on Christmas day. Better cancel that massive turkey. When you say mix, I hope there's social distancing being practiced. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites