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28 minutes ago, waldorf34 said:

UK now on 50000 cases a day and we are yet into winter, another shutdown coming?

I haven't looked into the figures but how do they break down as far as the separate nations are concerned? Is it mainly England who have relaxed their rules far more than the other countries? If so, there really is no need for Scotland, Wales or NI to change tact.

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Scotland is staying pretty steady in cases, which, unless they develop into high numbers in ICU & deaths are nothing to worry about.

Oh, UK figure for today is 49, 139.

Scottish cases below...............

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Scottish deaths, also not showing any signs of climbing.......................

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ICU numbers dropping......................

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All in all today's headlines are closer to scaremongering than worrying.

Even the UK death numbers are barely rising. 

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51 minutes ago, stlucifer said:

I haven't looked into the figures but how do they break down as far as the separate nations are concerned? Is it mainly England who have relaxed their rules far more than the other countries? If so, there really is no need for Scotland, Wales or NI to change tact.

This is a good site for Scottish numbers.

https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/

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16 hours ago, waldorf34 said:

UK now on 50000 cases a day and we are yet into winter, another shutdown coming?

What did you want? The government vaccinated the population, i.e., infected healthy people with the virus. They spread the virus to other healthy people - the number of sick people increased. And it will grow even more.
The only way to fight the virus is to increase a person's immunity. I don't see any other way.

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10 hours ago, Pokitren said:

What did you want? The government vaccinated the population, i.e., infected healthy people with the virus. They spread the virus to other healthy people - the number of sick people increased. And it will grow even more.
The only way to fight the virus is to increase a person's immunity. I don't see any other way.

Eh?

It's people, like you, posting utter shite that continue to slow down the obvious positive effects of the vaccination. :1eye

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  • 2 weeks later...

Yes, there is no less news about Covid, so I increasingly remember that I was very lucky even before the epidemic began. In 2016, I came across one interesting company and I immediately started reading progressive insurance reviews and decided that it was worth playing it safe and taking care of life insurance for my relatives in advance. And it just so happened that it turned out to be very opportune, since now the demand for health insurance has grown very much. 

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15 minutes ago, markgilson80 said:

Yes, there is no less news about Covid, so I increasingly remember that I was very lucky even before the epidemic began. In 2016, I came across one interesting company and I immediately started reading progressive insurance reviews and decided that it was worth playing it safe and taking care of life insurance for my relatives in advance. And it just so happened that it turned out to be very opportune, since now the demand for health insurance has grown very much. 

FFS, how do these f**kwits get through? 

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Caught a bit of a news repost the Scottish government are scaremongering again.

The FACTS are that the cases, hospital admissions and deaths are flatlining yet they are putting the message out there that the vaccine passport system might be spread to pubs? 

FFS, when is this madness going to follow common sense and slowly be removed from our society? 

Would it still be in place is one person died? 

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Just now, faraway saint said:

Caught a bit of a news repost the Scottish government are scaremongering again.

The FACTS are that the cases, hospital admissions and deaths are flatlining yet they are putting the message out there that the vaccine passport system might be spread to pubs? 

FFS, when is this madness going to follow common sense and slowly be removed from our society? 

Would it still be in place is one person died? 

Check the "numbers".

https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/

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With the important numbers showing no increase, slightly decreasing TBH, why is wee Nicky wittering about further restrictions for hospitality?

She's been shitting the bed for month's.

Anyhow glad this thread's all but redundant, been an absolute belter of a thread. 

Cracking posts, reflecting people's views, whither guided by their political likes/dislikes, personal experiences and the utter dimwits who believe anything they find on the internet. :lol:

Aye, a cracking thread and it's been a cracking way to pass the time over the last 20 months or so. :rolleyes:

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4 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:

BBC News - Merkel: Germany hit by full force of Covid
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59320515

Have you done some digging or just getting excited by the headlines?

The common theme is low vaccination rates, resulting in massive rises in cases but still, overall, not the same rises in ICU & deaths. 

The numbers worth worrying about are not rising, in Scotland, and most European countries, with cases. 

Germany, for instance, are at an average of 187 deaths, which, admittedly, have risen from an average of 50-60 6 weeks ago. 

Also many of the countries where the numbers are rising are ex-eastern block, with poor health systems.

Getting back to Scotland, the numbers, cases, ICU and deaths, don't point towards increasing current restrictions. 

As I said, apples to oranges. 

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12 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

Have you done some digging or just getting excited by the headlines?

The common theme is low vaccination rates, resulting in massive rises in cases but still, overall, not the same rises in ICU & deaths. 

The numbers worth worrying about are not rising, in Scotland, and most European countries, with cases. 

Germany, for instance, are at an average of 187 deaths, which, admittedly, have risen from an average of 50-60 6 weeks ago. 

Also many of the countries where the numbers are rising are ex-eastern block, with poor health systems.

Getting back to Scotland, the numbers, cases, ICU and deaths, don't point towards increasing current restrictions. 

As I said, apples to oranges. 

Agree with you with the common theme if low vaccinations, when Austria announced the lockdown for the unjabbed the rates through Europe were quite bad with Germany being the highest with 67% vaccinated, it doesn't take much to realise why cases are rising in Europe.

I just wish down here we would follow Scotland and Wales approach with vaccination passports for events etc, does appear to help.

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11 hours ago, Cumbriansaint72 said:

Agree with you with the common theme if low vaccinations, when Austria announced the lockdown for the unjabbed the rates through Europe were quite bad with Germany being the highest with 67% vaccinated, it doesn't take much to realise why cases are rising in Europe.

I just wish down here we would follow Scotland and Wales approach with vaccination passports for events etc, does appear to help.

For me, the science is saying "be worried about the winter months" it would be reckless and irresponsible for the Scottish/ other UK governments not to consider the need for further restrictions in the coming months.

You'd think after 20 odd months of this virus continuing to throw up issues, people would finally accept that listening to the science longer term makes sense when we look at the need for restrictions. 

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On 11/9/2021 at 10:52 PM, faraway saint said:

Caught a bit of a news repost the Scottish government are scaremongering again.

The FACTS are that the cases, hospital admissions and deaths are flatlining yet they are putting the message out there that the vaccine passport system might be spread to pubs? 

FFS, when is this madness going to follow common sense and slowly be removed from our society? 

Would it still be in place is one person died? 

So

If existing measures are apparently bearing fruit as we open up additional sectors, they shouldn't be applied to places already open but currently not covered?  What would the reason for that be?

Is there evidence that there is no transmission in pubs?

Facts, please.

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I have noticed that in my visits to the supermarket, very few people are now cleaning the handle of the trolley before entering.

Also no real change to seeing males pee with 1 hand while looking at their phone with the other, and then bailing out of the toilets  :o

 

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