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15 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

It seems you are the angel of death as, overall, suicides are not showing any increases during the pandemic.

As of June 2021, official statistics on suicide rates during the pandemic have not been released. This is because it takes a long time to register, analyse and report on suicide data at a national level, and this has been further delayed due to the pandemic.

Fortunately, provisional suicide rates for 2020 in England has found no evidence that national suicide rates increased. And evidence from the National Confidential Inquiry (NCISH) and the University of Manchester suggests suicide rates during the first national lockdown in England have not been impacted in the way that many of us were concerned about. Real-time data from other nations in the UK and Ireland is not available as surveillance systems are not currently widespread, though some are under development.

Where in England is Paisley? 

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The cumulative standardised mortality rate for 2021 is now 0.4% below the 2011-2020 average.

And the 2011-2020 average is the lowest on record.

Let that sink in.

The mortality rate this year is lower than the last 10 years average which is the lowest on record.

In the middle of a deadly pandemic

https://www.actuaries.org.uk/system/files/field/document/Mortality-monitor-Q2-2021-v01-2021-07-13.pdf
 

And this information is published weekly and is available with one click. 

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2 hours ago, Sue Denim said:

The cumulative standardised mortality rate for 2021 is now 0.4% below the 2011-2020 average.

And the 2011-2020 average is the lowest on record.

Let that sink in.

The mortality rate this year is lower than the last 10 years average which is the lowest on record.

In the middle of a deadly pandemic

https://www.actuaries.org.uk/system/files/field/document/Mortality-monitor-Q2-2021-v01-2021-07-13.pdf
 

And this information is published weekly and is available with one click. 

Meaning your point on lockdown killing more people than the pandemic must be unfounded 🤷‍♂️

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The cumulative standardised mortality rate for 2021 is now 0.4% below the 2011-2020 average.
And the 2011-2020 average is the lowest on record.
Let that sink in.
The mortality rate this year is lower than the last 10 years average which is the lowest on record.
In the middle of a deadly pandemic
https://www.actuaries.org.uk/system/files/field/document/Mortality-monitor-Q2-2021-v01-2021-07-13.pdf
 
And this information is published weekly and is available with one click. 
From the man that calls me a tinfoil hat wearer



It's almost as if the measures taken to counter the pandemic have been effective...
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9 hours ago, Sue Denim said:

The cumulative standardised mortality rate for 2021 is now 0.4% below the 2011-2020 average.

And the 2011-2020 average is the lowest on record.

Let that sink in.

The mortality rate this year is lower than the last 10 years average which is the lowest on record.

In the middle of a deadly pandemic

https://www.actuaries.org.uk/system/files/field/document/Mortality-monitor-Q2-2021-v01-2021-07-13.pdf
 

And this information is published weekly and is available with one click. 

Sue, can I call you Sue?, you are all over the fecking place on this.

I don't think even you know what you are trying to prove here. :lol:

 

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And now today some "research" shows that there are 200 symptoms associated with Long Covid.

it was published in the Lancet so it must be credible right?

Well 2 things spring to mind on that score.

1) No illness has 200 symptoms.

2) The lead "researcher" who authored the paper claims she has suffered from Long Covid for about 15 months and counting. So straight away you can't trust her analysis. Everything she has published in that paper is tainted with bias.

Just goes to show, just because something is published in a credible journal doesn't mean it contains credible science.

This is what happens when journals chase eyeballs and don't do their homework. They become no bloody better than the Sun.

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20 hours ago, faraway saint said:

You have any facts other than hearsay? 

I prefer data, not chit chat. :byebye

You literally presented a source that confirms data isn't yet available :lol: 

I prefer data that contains data :ph34r:

If there's less suicides and mental health issues than most would expect, that would be great. But to suggest that the risk isn't there is a wee bit naïve 

 

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59 minutes ago, Doakes said:

You literally presented a source that confirms data isn't yet available :lol: 

I prefer data that contains data :ph34r:

If there's less suicides and mental health issues than most would expect, that would be great. But to suggest that the risk isn't there is a wee bit naïve 

 

This is better IMO than your chit chat, which you tried to indicate was widespread. 

Fortunately, provisional suicide rates for 2020 in England has found no evidence that national suicide rates increased. And evidence from the National Confidential Inquiry (NCISH) and the University of Manchester suggests suicide rates during the first national lockdown in England have not been impacted in the way that many of us were concerned about. 

Who said there is no risk? :blink:

 

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3 hours ago, salmonbuddie said:
4 hours ago, oaksoft said:
There's a surprise. emoji38.png

Shouldn't be a surprise to you, you're responsible for most of them...

So what you are saying is that it's other people too.

There's a surprise. :lol:

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7 hours ago, salmonbuddie said:

Yup, you and Sue Denim. You must be so proud...

This is too, too easy.

:lol:

There's no way I have called you more names than he has.

I mean......I can......if you want, but......

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There's no way I have called you more names than he has.
I mean......I can......if you want, but......
Not so sure about that one, oakster. Mind you, add in all the other user names and you may have a point...
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1 hour ago, faraway saint said:

Just had to "ask" a young gentleman, about mid twenties, to put his mask on as we're on a train 

Not particularly comfortable TBH but them's the rules.

Fcukwit. 

He should have politely told you to mind your own business :lol:

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