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9 minutes ago, Hiram Abiff said:

UK deaths now sitting around 52% of the level they were in Italy 2 weeks ago

 

Neil Ferguson now saying that two thirds of people with coronavirus who have died would have died anyway

 

When I stated this last week I received the standard abuse from oaksoft and TPAFTWAT

 

Neil Ferguson must be a sociopath according to TPAFTWAT then

 

More deaths in Germany than the UK yesterday. Is that because Germany do more testing?

 

er, wait a minute......

 

And I wonder if Ayrshire Saint is still out and about moaning about other folk being out and about

 

And LPM comparing coronavirus to the flu. Deary me. Epic fail.

 

And the worst thing is that certain people actually want more deaths to prove a point on a football forum thread

 

Evil evil people

 

 

 

Why are you making this about you...… ???

You're  a total irrelevance on here- but I guess you already know that

 

Take the hint and go pollute another website

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8 minutes ago, Hiram Abiff said:

UK deaths now sitting around 52% of the level they were in Italy 2 weeks ago

 

Neil Ferguson now saying that two thirds of people with coronavirus who have died would have died anyway

When I stated this last week I received the standard abuse from oaksoft and TPAFTWAT

Neil Ferguson must be a sociopath according to TPAFTWAT then

More deaths in Germany than the UK yesterday. Is that because Germany do more testing?

er, wait a minute......

And I wonder if Ayrshire Saint is still out and about moaning about other folk being out and about

And LPM comparing coronavirus to the flu. Deary me. Epic fail.

And the worst thing is that certain people actually want more deaths to prove a point on a football forum thread

 

Evil evil people

 

I don’t believe any of the people you name check need be evil or sociopaths merely because they disagree with you.

Perhaps they are just a bit more optimistic AND open to other ways of looking at the situation.

Only with hindsight will any of us be sure of what was the truth.

 

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5 hours ago, faraway saint said:

Yesterday, the end is nigh...................:rolleyes:

Today....................peace and love. :thumbs2

Did you get a shag last night? :lol:

And now I have to explain to you the difference between looking at the trend over just the last few days and the overall trend since 15th February?

Are you and hiram bored or are you both just competing for the forums Bellend of the Year 2020 title?

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9 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

And now I have to explain to you the difference between looking at the trend over just the last few days and the overall trend since 15th February?

Are you and hiram bored or are you both just competing for the forums Bellend of the Year 2020 title?

You're the one, well not the only one, who's so far engrossed in calculating the worse case scenario, failing, totally, to see what's HAPPENING, not forecast, in other countries.

I have been watching the numbers carefully, not fannying about with home made graphs, and have been dismissing your ludicrous figures, although you are not in the same league as LPM, who I notice seems to escape your abusive comments? 

I would suggest you refrain from calling me a bellend as you, quite clearly, are the one who's been made look like a bellend, all starting from when you were highlighted as a panic buyer and a bit of a meltdown soon after.

Thanks for being entertaining, I have enjoyed making you look very foolish. :lol:

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And now I have to explain to you the difference between looking at the trend over just the last few days and the overall trend since 15th February?
Are you and hiram bored or are you both just competing for the forums Bellend of the Year 2020 title?


Looking at the trend since the start is exactly what I’ve been doing

Each day adds to that trend

The problem you appear to have is that the trend doesn’t appear to be following the worst case scenario which you appear to want in order to suit your agenda

I’ve already told you to stop embarrassing yourself so please take my advice this time

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5 minutes ago, Hiram Abiff said:

 


Looking at the trend since the start is exactly what I’ve been doing

Each day adds to that trend

The problem you appear to have is that the trend doesn’t appear to be following the worst case scenario which you appear to want in order to suit your agenda

I’ve already told you to stop embarrassing yourself so please take my advice this time
 

 

I'm going to regret asking this but .......what agenda?

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My imaginary runner pal online again today bumping his gums about wanting a complete lockdown

 

He was due to fly out to Portugal a week past last Thursday for some running event. The event was obviously cancelled but he took it upon himself to go anyway with some mates, completely ignoring what was going on.

 

They of course ended up stranded but eventually managed to get flights home

 

He spent the whole time over there out and about posting photos online. Photos of the whole group in empty bars, having a piss up on the beach, describing the drinking seasons in the hotel.

 

Now he’s home he wants everyone else to be locked down

 

It’s an example of the angry violent mob out there who appear to be wanting a fascist police date imposed and wanting to make up their own government rules to apply to everyone else.

 

Apart from himself though. If you’re doing ‘proper’ exercise like running then its ok.

 

These folk make do my nut in!

 

 

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1 minute ago, Hiram Abiff said:

My runner pal online again today bumping his gums about wanting a complete lockdown

He was due to fly out to Portugal a week past last Thursday for some running event. The event was obviously cancelled but he took it upon himself to go anyway with a couple of pals, completely ignoring what was going on.

They of course ended up stranded but eventually managed to get flights home

He spent the whole time over there out and about posting photos online. Photos of the whole group in empty bats, having a piss up on the beach, describing the drinking seasons in the hotel.

Now he’s home he wants everyone else to be locked down

It’s an example of the angry violent mob out there who appear to be wanting a fascist police date imposed and wanting to make up their own government rules to apply to everyone else.

Apart from himself though. If you’re going ‘proper’ exercise like running then its ok.

These folk make do my nut in!

Fascinating. Absolutely fascinating.

Meanwhile back in the REAL world where people don't make up stories about non-existent friends.........

You and Dickson should get together and write a novel together.

Such imaginations........ :lol:

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4 minutes ago, Hiram Abiff said:

 


You want the worst case scenario to prove you were right on an online football forum

That’s your agenda

It’s evil

 

Where did I say that? You need to stop listening to the voices in your head.

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People or rather sheeple who think this situation is improving right now, are in for a shock.

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2 hours ago, faraway saint said:

You're the one, well not the only one, who's so far engrossed in calculating the worse case scenario, failing, totally, to see what's HAPPENING, not forecast, in other countries.

I have been watching the numbers carefully, not fannying about with home made graphs, and have been dismissing your ludicrous figures, although you are not in the same league as LPM, who I notice seems to escape your abusive comments? 

I would suggest you refrain from calling me a bellend as you, quite clearly, are the one who's been made look like a bellend, all starting from when you were highlighted as a panic buyer and a bit of a meltdown soon after.

Thanks for being entertaining, I have enjoyed making you look very foolish. :lol:

He had that title in the bag by January.:)

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NEW: Germany’s Bosch says it has developed a test for Covid-19 that can deliver a diagnosis in under 2.5 hours, and does not need to be taken to a lab

Developed in just 6 weeks, can also check for nine other respiratory diseases, including the flu, using a single sample

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The one thing that has become obvious throughout this whole sequence of events, is that there are so many variables in play here, that it is impossible to predict how this going to pan out.

For a start, comparing one country with another which has completely different demographic, is simply invalid. It's basic science.

Mathematical models are all fine and well, in theory.

In reality when nature is involved its sheer unpredictability often manages to outwit these models. I notice that they're now employing such models to try and contain the locust plague in the Africa and Asia. It seems to be helping just now, but it's very early stages. 

Given the extraordinary speed that this pandemic has developed at, it is impossible to have any data that is particularly reliable. I can understand governments, with hosts of experts behind them, announcing figures to try and reassure people or to emphasise the severity of the situation.

However, clowns on the internet, who in their own tiny minds, think that they have become some sort of guiding light on the matter, should be ignored completely. 

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1 minute ago, FTOF said:

The one thing that has become obvious throughout this whole sequence of events, is that there are so many variables in play here, that it is impossible to predict how this going to pan out.

For a start, comparing one country with another which has completely different demographic, is simply invalid. It's basic science.

Mathematical models are all fine and well, in theory.

In reality when nature is involved its sheer unpredictability often manages to outwit these models. I notice that they're now employing such models to try and contain the locust plague in the Africa and Asia. It seems to be helping just now, but it's very early stages. 

Given the extraordinary speed that this pandemic has developed at, it is impossible to have any data that is particularly reliable. I can understand governments, with hosts of experts behind them, announcing figures to try and reassure people or to emphasise the severity of the situation.

However, clowns on the internet, who in their own tiny minds, think that they have become some sort of guiding light on the matter, should be ignored completely. 

Close the forum. :lol:

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2 hours ago, faraway saint said:
3 hours ago, oaksoft said:

And now I have to explain to you the difference between looking at the trend over just the last few days and the overall trend since 15th February?

Are you and hiram bored or are you both just competing for the forums Bellend of the Year 2020 title?

You're the one, well not the only one, who's so far engrossed in calculating the worse case scenario, failing, totally, to see what's HAPPENING, not forecast, in other countries.

I have been watching the numbers carefully, not fannying about with home made graphs, and have been dismissing your ludicrous figures, although you are not in the same league as LPM, who I notice seems to escape your abusive comments? 

I would suggest you refrain from calling me a bellend as you, quite clearly, are the one who's been made look like a bellend, all starting from when you were highlighted as a panic buyer and a bit of a meltdown soon after.

Thanks for being entertaining, I have enjoyed making you look very foolish. :lol:

Although it doesn't take much; does it?

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34 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said:

NEW: Germany’s Bosch says it has developed a test for Covid-19 that can deliver a diagnosis in under 2.5 hours, and does not need to be taken to a lab

Developed in just 6 weeks, can also check for nine other respiratory diseases, including the flu, using a single sample
 

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/standard-coronavirus-test-if-available-works-well-can-new-diagnostics-help-pandemic#

 

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46 minutes ago, FTOF said:

The one thing that has become obvious throughout this whole sequence of events, is that there are so many variables in play here, that it is impossible to predict how this going to pan out.

For a start, comparing one country with another which has completely different demographic, is simply invalid. It's basic science.

Mathematical models are all fine and well, in theory.

In reality when nature is involved its sheer unpredictability often manages to outwit these models. I notice that they're now employing such models to try and contain the locust plague in the Africa and Asia. It seems to be helping just now, but it's very early stages. 

Given the extraordinary speed that this pandemic has developed at, it is impossible to have any data that is particularly reliable. I can understand governments, with hosts of experts behind them, announcing figures to try and reassure people or to emphasise the severity of the situation.

However, clowns on the internet, who in their own tiny minds, think that they have become some sort of guiding light on the matter, should be ignored completely. 

In a post criticising  "clowns on the internet who in their own tiny minds, think that they have become some sort of guiding light on the matter", can you lay out for us your expertise which allows you to make judgments on mathematical models? 

Or is it OK for you to have an opinion but not others?

We have a f**k of a lot of experts on mathematical modelling all of a sudden.

I'm just wondering whether we have a previously hidden and secret cache of computational experts on here or whether you're just as full of hot air as the people you are having a go at.

I have a PhD in it and a host of published articles in international journals so I understand how modelling works and what limits can be applied to their results. What's your background in all of this?

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30 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said:
1 hour ago, FTOF said:

That's a big article with a lot of info. Was there any particular point within it that you were quoting in reference to my post about Bosch?

It was mainly to highlight how testing has been carried out so far and its limitations.

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It was mainly to highlight how testing has been carried out so far and its limitations.
OK, thanks

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I have a PhD in it and a host of published articles in international journals so I understand how modelling works and what limits can be applied to their results.


Cringe!

You must have paid a lot of money for that imaginary PhD because you’ve shown on this thread that you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about!

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Who said that? 

 

Indeed, nobody said things were improving whatsoever

 

It’s yet another example of TPAFTWAT hoping for the worst case scenario to prove a point on a football forum

 

He’s an evil sociopath and an pathetic online hardman

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