faraway saint Posted April 30 Author Report Share Posted April 30 Just now, BuddieinEK said: Thanks professor. Grateful for your informed wisdom! Another idiotic post, only "professors" can have an opinion. Although you are a professor in stupidity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 12 hours ago, faraway saint said: Another idiotic post, only "professors" can have an opinion. Although you are a professor in stupidity. Thanks professor. Grateful for your informed wisdom! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 4 Author Report Share Posted May 4 The USA, as of next week, are allowing unvaccinated people into the country. They must have missed the news about this new deadly bug. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 10 Author Report Share Posted May 10 Just heard the WHO have declared that covid is no longer a public health emergency of international concern. That is except in East Kilbride. Even hospitals and doctors surgeries are abandoning the use of masks, LONG overdue. Poor @BuddieinEK, his period of mourning could be at an end, or maybe not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 On 5/10/2023 at 6:17 PM, faraway saint said: Just heard the WHO have declared that covid is no longer a public health emergency of international concern. That is except in East Kilbride. Even hospitals and doctors surgeries are abandoning the use of masks, LONG overdue. Poor @BuddieinEK, his period of mourning could be at an end, or maybe not. 11 days and nobody bit or responded. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Losing your touch bully boy. Playground diminishing? FWIW, I genuinely grieve over people I loved and supported that were lost through the thing we mention not. You mock that. Your right. Fair enough. Your playground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 21 Author Report Share Posted May 21 20 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said: 11 days and nobody bit or responded. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 You did. 🤣🤣🤣 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 20 minutes ago, faraway saint said: You did. 🤣🤣🤣 And still you mock bully boy. Mummy must be proud. Narcissist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 21 Author Report Share Posted May 21 1 minute ago, BuddieinEK said: And still you mock bully boy. Mummy must be prooud. Narcissist. Irony. You spewed your grief all over this thread when most people were hit by the tragic effects of covid. Everybody kept it to themself, except you. A professional mourner. Oh woe is me..........aye, unbelievable but so you. Run along, it's not ALL about you. 🤡 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 42 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Irony. You spewed your grief all over this thread when most people were hit by the tragic effects of covid. Everybody kept it to themself, except you. A professional mourner. Oh woe is me..........aye, unbelievable but so you. Run along, it's not ALL about you. 🤡 I will leave this discussion hanging here for others to judge. Master baiter and playground bully. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 Finally caught it ..... yeah its a bummer however i wasnt treated like i had the plague.... was at party with a bunch of Texans and about 20 out of 50 caught it.. so its still there.... but its not very 2023 so who gives a feck... was thinking about finding 25 albanians and getting a wee boat to Cumbrae to be in the now 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albanian Buddy Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 51 minutes ago, DougJamie said: Finally caught it ..... yeah its a bummer however i wasnt treated like i had the plague.... was at party with a bunch of Texans and about 20 out of 50 caught it.. so its still there.... but its not very 2023 so who gives a feck... was thinking about finding 25 albanians and getting a wee boat to Cumbrae to be in the now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 Won’t be long now till the next vaccination round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 If over 75, you can just walk in to a vaccination dispensary and no need to wait. I’ve had 6 cv vax so far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 3 hours ago, antrin said: If over 75, you can just walk in to a vaccination dispensary and no need to wait. I’ve had 6 cv vax so far. Not in Scotland. You'll get an appointment sent out if you're over 75. Winter flu and COVID-19 Vaccination Programme - News - Public Health Scotland I booked my flu jab. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 Depending on where you live, you can still walk in to a vaccination centre and if you are overdue either COVID, pneumococal or flu boosters then they will most likely admininster them. My wife is co-ordinating clinics in the Forth Valley and has walk-in patients every day, mosty advised by their GP practice to get along. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/no-evidence-support-covid-lockdowns-30470038 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/no-evidence-support-covid-lockdowns-30470038That can't be right. During (or just after) lockdown someone on here stated it was a FACT that lockdown had saved lives. It's hard to know who to believe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 (edited) 21 hours ago, DougJamie said: https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/no-evidence-support-covid-lockdowns-30470038 Did you read the report or the scurrilous selctive quotes from it in the Express? The report concluded this on the physical measures (which included lockdown, in all it's forms) "3.1.2 Physical measures advised or mandated in August to December 2020 In the summer of 2020 the number of new COVID-19 cases across the UK declined. This was attributed, in part, to the effectiveness of the physical measures that had been mandated earlier that year." So, it was undeniably true that there was no evidence at the time decisions were taken to suggest that they WOULD be effective. That is because there were no studies done in respect of COVID or these forms of lockdown in our society and noone has undertaken any studies into that scenario since then, not because there was ANY evidence to the contrary. To suggest on the basis of this report, that the physical measures were not effective or needed is just daft-the report states that they were an undoubted part of limiting the spread. Edited August 14 by beyond our ken 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 7 hours ago, beyond our ken said: Did you read the report or the scurrilous selctive quotes from it in the Express? The report concluded this on the physical measures (which included lockdown, in all it's forms) "3.1.2 Physical measures advised or mandated in August to December 2020 In the summer of 2020 the number of new COVID-19 cases across the UK declined. This was attributed, in part, to the effectiveness of the physical measures that had been mandated earlier that year." So, it was undeniably true that there was no evidence at the time decisions were taken to suggest that they WOULD be effective. That is because there were no studies done in respect of COVID or these forms of lockdown in our society and noone has undertaken any studies into that scenario since then, not because there was ANY evidence to the contrary. To suggest on the basis of this report, that the physical measures were not effective or needed is just daft-the report states that they were an undoubted part of limiting the spread. In your humble opinion...well at least the gov made their pals happy .... Sweden encouraged the spread and are in a far better position than us and the ridiculous NZ approach.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 (edited) 4 hours ago, DougJamie said: In your humble opinion...well at least the gov made their pals happy .... Sweden encouraged the spread and are in a far better position than us and the ridiculous NZ approach.... In my opinion? i quoted directly from the report and not from an Express report which was obviously pursuing a particular angle. I also never took any sides of the argument and only showed how the express twisted a tiny bit of the report to suit it's own agenda. If you are happier with the opinion of a newspaper that took a wee slice out of a report dozens of pages long then that's fine. Regarding the UK's current position, our problems are down to a lot more than just coronavirus Edited August 14 by beyond our ken 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 On 8/14/2023 at 10:01 AM, beyond our ken said: Did you read the report or the scurrilous selctive quotes from it in the Express? The report concluded this on the physical measures (which included lockdown, in all it's forms) "3.1.2 Physical measures advised or mandated in August to December 2020 In the summer of 2020 the number of new COVID-19 cases across the UK declined. This was attributed, in part, to the effectiveness of the physical measures that had been mandated earlier that year." So, it was undeniably true that there was no evidence at the time decisions were taken to suggest that they WOULD be effective. That is because there were no studies done in respect of COVID or these forms of lockdown in our society and noone has undertaken any studies into that scenario since then, not because there was ANY evidence to the contrary. To suggest on the basis of this report, that the physical measures were not effective or needed is just daft-the report states that they were an undoubted part of limiting the spread. Sweden didn’t lockdown and have had the least number of excess deaths in Europe Lockdowns have killed thousands in the U.K and millions worldwide, caused the cost of living crisis, destroyed the education of children, destroyed business, ruined lives, crippled the NHS, plunged millions into poverty worldwide, the rich have got richer and poor have got poorer. And all of this was for seen, I stated it would happen from the very beginning 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 12 hours ago, Sue Denim said: Sweden didn’t lockdown and have had the least number of excess deaths in Europe Lockdowns have killed thousands in the U.K and millions worldwide, caused the cost of living crisis, destroyed the education of children, destroyed business, ruined lives, crippled the NHS, plunged millions into poverty worldwide, the rich have got richer and poor have got poorer. And all of this was for seen, I stated it would happen from the very beginning 4 points The Swedish Government had active pandemic planning activities in the years leading up to the COVID 19 pandemic and while not having a knowledge-base that supported their tactic they did have enough quasi-independent advice to allow them to be comfortable with their stance which led to them prioritising the economy. They knew that any approach would be a gamble . The fact that they had fewer excess deaths, or at least seemd to, was a very welcome bonus. The Swedish government did bring in a raft of protections such as shutting down non-essential services, restrictions on the use of public transport, social distancing which was more rigourously observed by the population than here and bans on large gatherings and events. Swedes were expected to follow very much the same restrictions as ourselves without the legal weight, which was always there and ready to be used if needed, however the Swedes seemed to be far more publc spirited than many other countries They referred older COVID patients to be moved to palliative and respite care, effectively not giving them restorative medicine and it remains to be seen how many of the people designated as age-related deaths actually died of COVID. They were effectively sacrifised as no-longer being economically active. Finally, Sweden has a massive boost to reducing the spread of infectious disease, it has a population density of only 26, Scotland's is more than 2.5 times that and the larger countries in Europe have densities that approach 10 times that of Sweden. The number of deaths in the few large cities was massively more than the less populated areas, had Stockholm or Gothenburg's figures been typical then the lack of lockdown would have been blamed for a massive wave of death. My view is that the article that sparked this line of debate was selective and the reality is that it actually argues against it's own point. There were no studies, no pandemic planning and no modelling that were done by the responsible body, which is the UK government. To say that the Scottish Government made it's decisions without evidence is absolutely correct since the people who retained responsibility for this never acted and that is the true reason why the UK's response was so slow and poor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 19 Author Report Share Posted August 19 15 minutes ago, beyond our ken said: To say that the Scottish Government made it's decisions without evidence is absolutely correct since the people who retained responsibility for this never acted and that is the true reason why the UK's response was so slow and poor Are you saying the Scottish Government had no power to make decision on its response to covid? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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faraway saint Posted August 19 Author Report Share Posted August 19 5 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said: Irony. Troll off. 🤣🤣🤣 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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