theacademic Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 Dear all, I am involved in some university research that is looking at sexuality in football and I would appreciate a few minutes of your time to share your thoughts on this subject. The survey is anonymous and can be found here: https://doit.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_5d4gVVLc7wZUS57 Thanks in advance for your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 Why? It's private and should be irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, stlucifer said: Why? It's private and should be irrelevant. Hmmmm. nothing is really private if it can be used to abuse people. More openness, honesty and reason would be useful. i opened the questionnaire, prepared to “share my thoughts “, but I jettisoned it when I saw I’d have to do background research and reading for what looked like every question. Not a great design for a questionnaire, I feel. people(perhaps just me) are lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, antrin said: Hmmmm. nothing is really private if it can be used to abuse people. More openness, honesty and reason would be useful. i opened the questionnaire, prepared to “share my thoughts “, but I jettisoned it when I saw I’d have to do background research and reading for what looked like every question. Not a great design for a questionnaire, I feel. people(perhaps just me) are lazy. I just don't think it should be a question that needs to be asked. I say again. What reason is there for knowing someone's sexuality in relation to football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, stlucifer said: I just don't think it should be a question that needs to be asked. I say again. What reason is there for knowing someone's sexuality in relation to football? The OP might be better responding, but till s/he does so... The fitba world is possibly the least open mainstream institution in the uk/world in which participants appear to be unable to be honest about their sexuality. Why is that? Is it down to the owners/managers/other players/fans...? We just don’t know. Knowledge is power. Power can get things transformed fwiw uk Football management is more racist than uk society. Very few black or Asian ex-players make it to management level. Doubtless for the same irrational, phobic reasons. there - I’ve probably offered more of my “thoughts” than the questionnaire could have prised out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, antrin said: The OP might be better responding, but till s/he does so... The fitba world is possibly the least open mainstream institution in the uk/world in which participants appear to be unable to be honest about their sexuality. Why is that? Is it down to the owners/managers/other players/fans...? We just don’t know. Knowledge is power. Power can get things transformed fwiw uk Football management is more racist than uk society. Very few black or Asian ex-players make it to management level. Doubtless for the same irrational, phobic reasons. there - I’ve probably offered more of my “thoughts” than the questionnaire could have prised out of me. The survey is asking football fans the questions. And look at the first question. We have listed some of the reasons behind why this didn't happen below. Please let us know how far you agree or disagree with each of their influence on gay male professional footballers not coming out. If they were truly wanting a reasonable answer they surely would have had the option, Because it's none of anyone else's business. Now this wouldn't preclude others in the team knowing. Just not the wider public. They are skewing the survey to encourage a negative outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, stlucifer said: The survey is asking football fans the questions. And look at the first question. We have listed some of the reasons behind why this didn't happen below. Please let us know how far you agree or disagree with each of their influence on gay male professional footballers not coming out. If they were truly wanting a reasonable answer they surely would have had the option, Because it's none of anyone else's business. Now this wouldn't preclude others in the team knowing. Just not the wider public. They are skewing the survey to encourage a negative outcome. Yes, you are correct on that point and it's this which makes the survey null and void IMO even though there is scope for "other" answers. The problem with gay footballers feeling they can't come out is more to do with the fact that most footballers will interact socially, meet each others families, share baby and general parenting stories, girlfriend dramas etc. Gay footballers however can't share their stories in general for fear of discrimination. That's the problem which needs fixed. Edited March 26, 2020 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 minute ago, cockles1987 said: 1 hour ago, stlucifer said: The survey is asking football fans the questions. And look at the first question. We have listed some of the reasons behind why this didn't happen below. Please let us know how far you agree or disagree with each of their influence on gay male professional footballers not coming out. If they were truly wanting a reasonable answer they surely would have had the option, Because it's none of anyone else's business. Now this wouldn't preclude others in the team knowing. Just not the wider public. They are skewing the survey to encourage a negative outcome. Some stupid question and choices for answers, never written so much in the comments for a survey before. If thats what it takes to educate these so called academics, but hopefully in 10 years theres no need for one anyway. I've liked your post but I hope it takes a lot less than 10 years. Perhaps too optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theacademic Posted March 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Many thanks to those who have completed the survey. It is appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) I wish @faraway saint had replied to this thread, it'd have been interesting to read the opinion of a gay man. Edited March 30, 2020 by GMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 9 hours ago, GMan said: I wish @faraway saint had replied to this thread, it'd have been interesting to read the opinion of a gay man. You had to edit THAT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, cockles1987 said: It's as if he tried to insult you by calling you gay. I'm in bits here, let me compose myself.................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 11 hours ago, cockles1987 said: It's as if he tried to insult you by calling you gay. Not at all. It turns out I was wrong, anyway. @faraway saint has a misses, I know cos her gynaecologist's just been on the phone. He said you're definitely a fanny. He also said Faraway Saint's wife rents hers out to the Welsh yodeling team for practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 37 minutes ago, GMan said: Not at all. It turns out I was wrong, anyway. @faraway saint has a misses, I know cos her gynaecologist's just been on the phone. He said you're definitely a fanny. He also said Faraway Saint's wife rents hers out to the Welsh yodeling team for practice. You're getting mixed up, that's your maw yer talking about. One thing's not changed, your patters still gash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 On 3/30/2020 at 10:29 PM, GMan said: I wish @faraway saint had replied to this thread, it'd have been interesting to read the opinion of a gay man. He says he’s not gay says he’s a giver and not a taker👬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 10 hours ago, linwood buddie said: He says he’s not gay says he’s a giver and not a taker👬 Apologies for being a bit rough with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, faraway saint said: Apologies for being a bit rough with you. Didn’t even notice you were there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, linwood buddie said: Didn’t even notice you were there. You have been well used right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 3 hours ago, faraway saint said: You have been well used right enough. But I never get constipation 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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