lenziebud Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tommy said: Having the Killie games postponed was also a real break since we would likely have had both McCarthy and MacPherson missing. Add in Waters not able to play and Foley missing in midfield to cover in defence. Going into the last few games before the split, and maybe the rest of the season with only 1 fit centre half would have been scary. Agree, add into that 2 of our best players in Flynn and Magennis out with cruciate ligament injuries and we would have struggled. Now by the time we get back playing these guys will be all close to being fully fit plus a few new additions. Also for JG career as a manager that Obika goal was so important because relegation would have been tough to bounce back from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 3 hours ago, djchapsticks said: No chance. Legal action costs a lot of money. Ann Budge arguing it will be expensive but less costly than relegation would be. But the massive risk is that if they lose the legal action it will cost them twice! Yup. I'd be astonished if Hearts had enough money to pay for legal action, risking losing it and then having to reduce next season's playing budget as a result. She's just another in a tedious line of people who just won't take "No" for an answer. Hearts should move on IMO and focus on getting ready for the new season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, lenziebud said: Agree, add into that 2 of our best players in Flynn and Magennis out with cruciate ligament injuries and we would have struggled. Now by the time we get back playing these guys will be all close to being fully fit plus a few new additions. Also for JG career as a manager that Obika goal was so important because relegation would have been tough to bounce back from. It just shows that the margin between success and failure can be absolutely wafer thin. Getting relegated with such an unbalanced squad under Jim might have done serious damage to his career. Reminded me of Ian Murray. Didn't he fall foul of that with a ridiculous number of shite strikers or am I thinking of someone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delpierro Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Hearts, Hearts, inglorious Hearts....[emoji1635][emoji445][emoji445][emoji445] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 That would have meant repaying TV companies and sponsors. Was never an option.Yup.Still not right...But all clubs, including Hearts, employed Doncaster to chase the tv cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedflanders123 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, oaksoft said: It just shows that the margin between success and failure can be absolutely wafer thin. Getting relegated with such an unbalanced squad under Jim might have done serious damage to his career. Reminded me of Ian Murray. Didn't he fall foul of that with a ridiculous number of shite strikers or am I thinking of someone else? Tommy Craig was the most guilty of bring in overweight and useless strikers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, oaksoft said: It just shows that the margin between success and failure can be absolutely wafer thin. Getting relegated with such an unbalanced squad under Jim might have done serious damage to his career. Reminded me of Ian Murray. Didn't he fall foul of that with a ridiculous number of shite strikers or am I thinking of someone else? Absolutely, it's such a knife edge. If we went down with what we would have retained from this squad I doubt we would have been back up for at least a few seasons. But if we look at what we potentially have for next season, work to be done but we have a lot of quality players Obika McCarthy Magennis Durmus Foley McCgrath Macpherson and potentials with McAllister if he stays fit, Junior if he sorts his consistency out and Flynn if we take a punt on him next season. I'm more than confident we can build a solid team around that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Yup. I'd be astonished if Hearts had enough money to pay for legal action, risking losing it and then having to reduce next season's playing budget as a result. She's just another in a tedious line of people who just won't take "No" for an answer. Hearts should move on IMO and focus on getting ready for the new season.If they do questions need to be asked why she held the proverbial gun to players heads over wage reductions at the start of the C19 crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, bazil85 said: Absolutely, it's such a knife edge. If we went down with what we would have retained from this squad I doubt we would have been back up for at least a few seasons. But if we look at what we potentially have for next season, work to be done but we have a lot of quality players Obika McCarthy Magennis Durmus Foley McCgrath Macpherson and potentials with McAllister if he stays fit, Junior if he sorts his consistency out and Flynn if we take a punt on him next season. I'm more than confident we can build a solid team around that. Good point. If we want to improve then maybe Flynn is one we want to move on even though he has put in some great performances for us. Injury might just make sense to cut our loses. Might get a one year deal due to his versatility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Problem with Flynn is that he was going to be missing the bulk of 2020 with his ACL anyway so it might be a risk we cannot take to carry an injured player for 5 or 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leatherface Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, bazil85 said: Absolutely, it's such a knife edge. If we went down with what we would have retained from this squad I doubt we would have been back up for at least a few seasons. But if we look at what we potentially have for next season, work to be done but we have a lot of quality players Obika McCarthy Magennis Durmus Foley McCgrath Macpherson and potentials with McAllister if he stays fit, Junior if he sorts his consistency out and Flynn if we take a punt on him next season. I'm more than confident we can build a solid team around that. Junior? Terrible footballer who offers nothing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, djchapsticks said: Problem with Flynn is that he was going to be missing the bulk of 2020 with his ACL anyway so it might be a risk we cannot take to carry an injured player for 5 or 6 months. He was playing really well before his injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fricky-Troll Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 He was playing really well before his injury. I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Leatherface said: Junior? Terrible footballer who offers nothing... Some good games and bad games, often played out of position. Still think he could make an impact. Let’s not forget people were saying similar about Obika earlier this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 hours ago, lenziebud said: Good point. If we want to improve then maybe Flynn is one we want to move on even though he has put in some great performances for us. Injury might just make sense to cut our loses. Might get a one year deal due to his versatility Yeah, need to see if he recovers from it. He was heading for player of the season before it IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted May 19, 2020 Report Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) 😂 If it doesn't play when you click on it, just click on MacKenzie's name and it takes you directly to it on his account. Edited May 19, 2020 by FTOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastlandssaint Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52813339 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, eastlandssaint said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52813339 I think this seems acceptable, however... ... after the pandemic has passed, when Scottish fitba gets going again... ...what makes her think there’ll be enough clubs surviving to fill umpteen leagues so easily? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 11 hours ago, antrin said: I think this seems acceptable, however... ... after the pandemic has passed, when Scottish fitba gets going again... ...what makes her think there’ll be enough clubs surviving to fill umpteen leagues so easily? It's not acceptable. At the end of the 2021/22 season, 20 out of the 42 clubs in Scotland (assuming all are still there) would be relegated to revert leagues back to current setup. So it's OK for almost 50% of clubs to be displaced? Not having it. Reconstruction, I've not got an issue with. Temporary can f**k off though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 On 5/18/2020 at 2:14 PM, rabuddies said: And for that reason the Budge Fudge should be rejected out of hand! i think i feel sick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, eastlandssaint said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52813339 Not reasonable at all. "This is not about permanent reconstruction. It is about finding a path to deal with the emergency situation, which is likely to impact all member clubs for the next two seasons. save us from relegation and fkuc every body else" Pure and simple. And trying to claim the moral high ground to boot. This has nothing to do with Partick or any other side. It's her selfish attempt at saving her team. Any change in structure MUST be done for the good of the game and in place for a minimum of five years. Not for the sake of saving one underachieving club. I hope teams like RC, StJ and Accies, as well as us see this for what it is. Edited May 27, 2020 by stlucifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Hearts have been unfairly booted out the Premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Hearts have been unfairly booted out the Premiership. We know, brilliant ain't it. [emoji23] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Why does it need to be temporary, what's the issue with that being permanent. Axe the unfair parachute payment for good and no one really loses out. Less TV games hopefully a huge incentive for fans of clubs like us. Temporary can piss right off though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Two seasons only - I hope we say no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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