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Is it here  ?

Or is this presently a test,  a wee trial  ?

Will we end up with no freedoms ?

 

A Pharmacist phoned up Radio 5Live yesterday complaining there was still too many Cars on the road making non essential journeys. The presenter agreed with him.

How did they both know the reasons folk were driving their vehicles  ?

It's shite propaganda like this that will get every decent member of the public banned from driving.

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2 hours ago, shull said:

Is it here  ?

Or is this presently a test,  a wee trial  ?

Will we end up with no freedoms ?

 

A Pharmacist phoned up Radio 5Live yesterday complaining there was still too many Cars on the road making non essential journeys. The presenter agreed with him.

How did they both know the reasons folk were driving their vehicles  ?

It's shite propaganda like this that will get every decent member of the public banned from driving.

Great title

I was expecting something a little more meaty- from a Global Fascist state to 2 people having a wee bitch on a wee radio show....

 

Adolf Hiram will give you some guidelines

 

 

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Hiram Abiff said:

 

 


You’re the one supporting the fascist police state, not me.

You’re the one supporting a policy that will kill more people than the virus.

 

Ok, lets give you a chance to reply rather than cut and paste

How would you play this ?

What measures if any would you have in place ?

Would you have any restrictions ?

Would everything be normal- shops, businesses, airports, holidays, mass social gatherings be allowed ?

Should we totally ignore advice given ?

 

Answer the above, and you might actually start a debate, as up until now, all you have done is ridicule, quote however, and dismiss actions  

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Ok, lets give you a chance to reply rather than cut and paste

How would you play this ?

What measures if any would you have in place ?

Would you have any restrictions ?

Would everything be normal- shops, businesses, airports, holidays, mass social gatherings be allowed ?

Should we totally ignore advice given ?

 

Answer the above, and you might actually start a debate, as up until now, all you have done is ridicule, quote however, and dismiss actions  

 

Do you think we should put in restrictions like you’ve quoted above for a virus like the flu which has caused approaching 50,000 excess deaths in a bad season in the UK?

 

The start of the debate should really be to ask how reliable the Imperial College forecast is and whether it’s anymore reliable than any of the alternative views from global experts?

 

Can you tell us what data Imperial College based their forecast on and what assumptions they used? Can you tell us why you agree that the data they used is appropriate and why you agree with their assumptions?

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1 hour ago, Hiram Abiff said:

 

Do you think we should put in restrictions like you’ve quoted above for a virus like the flu which has caused approaching 50,000 excess deaths in a bad season in the UK?

 

The start of the debate should really be to ask how reliable the Imperial College forecast is and whether it’s anymore reliable than any of the alternative views from global experts?

 

Can you tell us what data Imperial College based their forecast on and what assumptions they used? Can you tell us why you agree that the data they used is appropriate and why you agree with their assumptions?

Yeah, thought so- give you a platform, not one single thought of your own, away back to Google.....

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I found this report on the BBC to be a little alarming, to be honest:

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Coronavirus: How China's using surveillance to tackle outbreak

The coronavirus pandemic may have emerged in China, but the country now has fewer cases than the US, Italy and Spain.

The Chinese government has used tools such as phone tracking to control the outbreak. Other countries are starting to look at similar technological solutions.

But how does China's controversial surveillance system work and can state intervention on this scale be justified?

Reporter: Joe Tidy

 

Biblical eschatology does predict a time where we will all receive the 'mark of the beast' in order to buy and sell. My belief is it's likely to take the form of a microchip (not the McCain's variety @shull ), which will be implanted. It also indicates there will be very few believers during that time, and that people will be sinful (ubiquitous profanity, blasphemy and vulgarity?) and materialistic. Then of course there are wars, pestilence and famine. Fun times!!!

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48 minutes ago, W6er said:

I found this report on the BBC to be a little alarming, to be honest:

 

Biblical eschatology does predict a time where we will all receive the 'mark of the beast' in order to buy and sell. My belief is it's likely to take the form of a microchip (not the McCain's variety @shull ), which will be implanted. It also indicates there will be very few believers during that time, and that people will be sinful (ubiquitous profanity, blasphemy and vulgarity?) and materialistic. Then of course there are wars, pestilence and famine. Fun times!!!

Oh I forget about God ?

 

Halleluiah.…………… Repent and stop coughing  

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From Swiss Propaganda Research

 

The answer to all the questions appears to be TPAFTWAT

 

In the current situation, the old and proven propaganda rule applies again: the less is known, the more is speculated. For attentive readers, however, this offers an opportunity to assess the standards and focus of different media outlets and authors.

 

One may ask, for example:

 

Who merely counts test-positive case and death figures without asking what these people actually fall ill with or die of?

 

Who addresses the issue of so-called excess mortality, which is still within or even below the normal range in all countries and age groups?

 

Who asks how many additional, unexpected pneumonia patients there are in intensive care units, and what their age and health profile is?

 

Who verifies if the number of test-positive people is simply rising proportional to the number of tests, i.e. stays constant in percentage terms?

 

Who prefers frightening pictures of viruses, protective suits and coffins rather than actual data, facts and background information?

 

Who discusses the well-known problems with virus test kits in general, and the missing clinical validation of the currently used virus test kit in particular?

 

Who highlights the problematic role played by the WHO in previous cases, and in this one?

 

Who is trying to add a political or geopolitical spin to the current situation?

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Hiram Abiff said:

 

Do you think we should put in restrictions like you’ve quoted above for a virus like the flu which has caused approaching 50,000 excess deaths in a bad season in the UK?

 

The start of the debate should really be to ask how reliable the Imperial College forecast is and whether it’s anymore reliable than any of the alternative views from global experts?

 

Can you tell us what data Imperial College based their forecast on and what assumptions they used? Can you tell us why you agree that the data they used is appropriate and why you agree with their assumptions?

That's not how it works.

You're the one criticising all of this. It's up to you to explain the errors in their model and the flaws in their subsequent strategy.

It's called having an original thought of your own. You should try it. The world doesn't need yet another whining f**kwit who only has the ability to cut and paste the opinions of others.

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2 hours ago, Hiram Abiff said:

From Swiss Propaganda Research

 

The answer to all the questions appears to be TPAFTWAT

 

In the current situation, the old and proven propaganda rule applies again: the less is known, the more is speculated. For attentive readers, however, this offers an opportunity to assess the standards and focus of different media outlets and authors.

 

One may ask, for example:

 

Who merely counts test-positive case and death figures without asking what these people actually fall ill with or die of?

 

Who addresses the issue of so-called excess mortality, which is still within or even below the normal range in all countries and age groups?

 

Who asks how many additional, unexpected pneumonia patients there are in intensive care units, and what their age and health profile is?

 

Who verifies if the number of test-positive people is simply rising proportional to the number of tests, i.e. stays constant in percentage terms?

 

Who prefers frightening pictures of viruses, protective suits and coffins rather than actual data, facts and background information?

 

Who discusses the well-known problems with virus test kits in general, and the missing clinical validation of the currently used virus test kit in particular?

 

Who highlights the problematic role played by the WHO in previous cases, and in this one?

 

Who is trying to add a political or geopolitical spin to the current situation?

 

 

 

Why waste our time cutting and pasting other people's thoughts?

Add some value and let's hear your own opinions.

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7 minutes ago, Dickson said:

My old next door neighbour was a Pastor and he used to tell that story about the End of Days and how it would be heralded in by a cashless society. It's not the only part of the prophesy though is it? I'm sure there was something about the Jews having to find the original temple which always made me wonder why the hell they'd be looking for it in the first place. 

It states in the Bible that the Jewish people will restore the temple in Jerusalem (i.e. build the third temple), I believe. Interestingly, I understand the New Testament was mostly written around one or two hundred years after Jesus' death, i.e. around AD 100.

I believe the Romans destroyed the second temple in AD 70, when the Jews were expelled from Palestine - thus creating the Jewish diaspora. So at the time the New Testament was compiled the Jewish people certainly were not in a position to restore the temple, and it was not likely to be imminent. The Balfour Declaration of 1917 essentially re-established a Jewish territory in Palestine. Israel was created shortly after WWII. East Jerusalem, where the temple would be rebuilt was captured in 1967, I think. Only now, with Jews moving back into East Jerusalem is it looking like the temple could be rebuilt.

In other words, the Bible predicted the Jewish state would be restored approx. 1,800 years ago. It only became feasible ~100 years ago, and is only now looking like a real possibility. Coincidentally, it's the same era as the existence of nuclear weapons and the technology to make the mark of the beast a reality.

A quick Google search elicited this as the top result:

1976075376_ThirdTemple005.jpg.e24a7e7db53fc8d4ee66bbdd735113de.jpg

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1043186/End-of-the-world-prophecy-Jerusalem-third-temple-Bible-apocalypse

 

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2 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

Yep, Christianity is, in reality, a doomsday cult.

Not really, it promises eternal life in heaven and the redemption of our earthly sins. It is exceedingly prescient.

Also the Bible states that the Jewsih people are God's chosen people (as does Judaism). I believe Jews constitute 0.2% of the world's population, but 20% of Nobel prize winners.

Christ was Jewish (or at least half-Jewish), as was:

Karl Marx - father of socialism. (Trotsky was also Jewish, and Lenin partly-Jewish)

Freud - father of psychology.

Boas - father of modern anthropology.  

Durkheim - father of sociology.

Einstein - synonymous with genius, and arguably the greatest scientist of the twentieth century.

Oppenheimer - father of the bomb.

I think it could be argued that those people above influenced and shaped the modern world, and I'd say far more of a contribution than anyone else. That's not even mentioning their contribution to music, art, literature, film (Speilberg, Kubrick), finance (Rothschild, Goldman Sachs, etc).

Of course Judaism also spawned Christianity and Islam, too.

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1 hour ago, W6er said:

It states in the Bible that the Jewish people will restore the temple in Jerusalem (i.e. build the third temple), I believe. Interestingly, I understand the New Testament was mostly written around one or two hundred years after Jesus' death, i.e. around AD 100.

I believe the Romans destroyed the second temple in AD 70, when the Jews were expelled from Palestine - thus creating the Jewish diaspora. So at the time the New Testament was compiled the Jewish people certainly were not in a position to restore the temple, and it was not likely to be imminent. The Balfour Declaration of 1917 essentially re-established a Jewish territory in Palestine. Israel was created shortly after WWII. East Jerusalem, where the temple would be rebuilt was captured in 1967, I think. Only now, with Jews moving back into East Jerusalem is it looking like the temple could be rebuilt.

In other words, the Bible predicted the Jewish state would be restored approx. 1,800 years ago. It only became feasible ~100 years ago, and is only now looking like a real possibility. Coincidentally, it's the same era as the existence of nuclear weapons and the technology to make the mark of the beast a reality.

A quick Google search elicited this as the top result:

1976075376_ThirdTemple005.jpg.e24a7e7db53fc8d4ee66bbdd735113de.jpg

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1043186/End-of-the-world-prophecy-Jerusalem-third-temple-Bible-apocalypse

 

JC if he existed died in AD 33ish - the four Books of the New Testament are estimated to have been written between 70 & 110 AD.

Interestingly Lord Balfour whose 1917 Declaration was a major step in the formation of modern Israel had strong Christian beliefs and according to many sources believed this would lead to the Second Coming - at the time he was heard to say "Armageddon outa here before it all blows up".

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