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7 hours ago, shull said:

Guess what, guess what, guess what ????? 

Another statement 

http://www.stranraerfc.org/index.php/77-latest-news/1748-statement-egm

Mr Dougan may feel hard done by, indeed probably anyone in the league set up will who find themselves being relegated, or not being allowed to complete their games if they could theoretically catch the team above them to gain the opportunity of promotion or avoid relegation, will feel aggrieved.

However a decision had to be taken as the Great Unwashed chairman pointed out, that the main stumbling point was basically financial and if you (the SPFL) couldn't see any realistic end to the season due to the HEALTH of the nation being challenged, then they had to stop the process at the point when it became almost impossible to predict when they could complete the leagues. They couldn't just abandon the season for lots of logical reasons, so the majority of clubs agreed to stop it now.

Take a minute to look at those who were part of the 13 dissenters, of the ones I am aware of :

Rangers, Aberdeen, Hamilton, Hearts, Partick Thistle, Brechin City, Stranraer, Inverness Caley Thistle, Livingston, Stenhousemuir and I think Elgin City, not sure about the other two.  Almost all had something to lose, but if the boot had been on another foot and all had either been safe or had won promotion, most would not have been on that list.

I feel a bit sorry for Partick as they were two points behind with a game in hand, and I get their arguments, but as I said before, the music suddenly stopped and they didn't have a seat.

So basically the main reason for the SPFL resolution was not about improvement of the leagues, or changing the league structure, it was about nothing other than plain and simple cash. As one or two Chairmen have just found out over this scenario, life can be hard and unjust sometimes, but if you don't want to get burnt............................................ :hammer

 

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The Rangers 'didn't back down' strategy behind their Celtic title can-kicking - Michael Gannon (Daily Record Online Writer)

There were the usual rumblings, the growing thunder of hooves over the hilltop, preparing another charge. It’s always the same when word arrives a Rangers statement is on the way. But this time it was only a shot across the bows rather than a full-on offensive. The language was familiar as was the warning.

The battle may be over but the war will roll on.

In the meantime Scottish football will pause for breath, pour a cup of tea and reflect on a month when our usually bonkers game cranked up the craziness to record levels.

But where exactly does Tuesday’s vote leave us? Want the bad news? Right back where we started. The SPFL might have sent out conciliatory messages the other day and several clubs want peace in our time. But let’s be honest, this wasn’t clearing the air before bedtime. Everyone went to their spare rooms and the same grievances will fester, only to boil over again in the coming days and weeks.

The Premiership season will be called. It’s not a Peter Lawwell concocted conspiracy, it’s just the way it’s going to be. Just like it will be in every nation that doesn’t have billionaires putting guns to players’ heads to get back on the pitch.

This weekend was meant to be the final match of the season. We’re already into overtime and everyone knows it ain’t coming back. It made sense to argue with the SPFL in April about trying to finish the season. Okay, clubs were screaming out to get their dosh but we could at least hang on to the pipe dream of actually completing games by hook or by crook.

Back then when Rangers decided to go gung ho at the league chiefs, their stance was, finish the season but not behind closed doors. Even then it looks like fantasyland stuff but a month or so down the line it’s about as realistic as a magical unicorn limbo dancing under a rainbow.

But let’s call it what it really is.

Rangers have done what they needed to do. Forget all this “greater good of the game” guff, coincidentally spouted by most of the clubs who would be shafted by the season being ended. Gers wanted to block the initial vote, kick the can down the road and show fans they wouldn’t hand over the title off the field. Fair enough. They’ve made their point clearly and when the inevitable happens now they can say they didn’t back down.

The rammy in the Championship was sheer opportunism – the ideal chance to get to their ultimate goal – to get rid of Neil Doncaster, Murdo MacLennan and Rod McKenzie. There have been running battles for three years as the folk at Ibrox see them as being in Peter Lawwell’s pocket.

The rest of Scottish football usually just leave them all to it. But just because Rangers were about as subtle as a Panzer Division doesn’t mean the game doesn’t need a shake-up. Murdo MacLennan might have thought he was defending his honour but rising to the bait and lashing out only made himself look daft.

Scottish football needs an adult in charge, not someone who won’t front up to Press scrutiny and who sends out statements like your angry auntie on her second bottle of Prosecco. Everyone knows the SPFL could do with smartening up in general but it’s a private company made up of members who have the power to change it if they can ever agree on anything. The board will believe they can go along their merry way now the vote is over but the same old problems remain under the surface. There will likely be moves to call the league soon, ahead of UEFA’s May 25 deadline.

Hearts, Partick Thistle, Stranraer and a few others, such as Falkirk will erupt en masse. Rangers will see it as a chance to get stuck back in as well, the merry-go-round will spin again, and it will keep spinning until either we get back out on the pitches in front of fans or clubs start tumbling in to administration.

Don’t bet on peace in our time as that rumbling sound over the hill isn’t going away.

 

Sums it up pretty well. Mostly vested interests at the heart of it all.

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And yet. According to the very same Daily rangers, a meeting of the Premier League teams heads UNANIMOUSLY backed an end to the season and the crowning of Celtic as champions. That will surely seem like backing down to the orcs.

 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/celtic-title-green-light-rangers-22022914

Edited by stlucifer

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17 hours ago, shull said:

In all honesty Shull, do you think that there is the remotest chance of football starting in Scotland in July?

Here we are in mid-May with 6 weeks to go to July and at least 2 of these is in lockdown. If you then assume that our dearly beloved leader in Scotland might relax our movements in any different way to those currently in England and allow the owners to open up hotels, bars and restaurants (alongside football stadiums and rugby gatherings), you have a very large dollop of positivity surrounding you and your thought processes.

1.  how do players tackle without physical contact? .................. mmmmmm tough one that 

2. How does Scottish football (which depends so much on match-day income) make ends meet on the games - even accepting they won't have policing, crowd control or office staff to deal with ticket requests.

3. What happens when 1 player in a team tests positive and he has been in an enclosed room with his team mates does that mean they all have to self-isolate, or do they expensively test every day and ensure that not one player in the entire Premier league is hit by this virus.

4. They have just tested hospitals and some sample care homes in Scotland and it has been found that on a sampling day 3% of the staff tested positive without showing any symptoms. If that is what it is showing in Cambridge as well as Scotland and is consistent with say police, fire and ambulance across swathes of the country, it could well be the same for the general population including footballers. You can't play football until we get to a near zero position in the population as the game needs fans on their seats in Scotland and the two positions just don't tally.

I have to say that I agree with your basic premise: football is fu**ed in Scotland for the foreseeable future, and whilst it was extremely tight before all this kicked off, it's now in a perilous state. We don't have a great product to sell to the TV companies, we have two dominant teams that lord it over the rest of us and that makes for a boring product that the world doesn't really want to watch, so we get highlights on BBC and Alba, occasional BT or Sky offerings that aren't taken seriously and we are well down the European and world rankings when it comes to football skills.

The football powers that be, are trying to look busy and positive, but the reality is that life in Scotland and the rest of Europe has changed for the foreseeable future and there is no realistic chance of of us gathering in W7 in the near future to bang the drums.  :byebye

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On your number one point, T O 59er, 

Free kicks and penalties are constantly given when there is no physical contact due to cheating diving bassas. 

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59 minutes ago, The Original 59er said:

In all honesty Shull, do you think that there is the remotest chance of football starting in Scotland in July?

Here we are in mid-May with 6 weeks to go to July and at least 2 of these is in lockdown. If you then assume that our dearly beloved leader in Scotland might relax our movements in any different way to those currently in England and allow the owners to open up hotels, bars and restaurants (alongside football stadiums and rugby gatherings), you have a very large dollop of positivity surrounding you and your thought processes.

1.  how do players tackle without physical contact? .................. mmmmmm tough one that 

2. How does Scottish football (which depends so much on match-day income) make ends meet on the games - even accepting they won't have policing, crowd control or office staff to deal with ticket requests.

3. What happens when 1 player in a team tests positive and he has been in an enclosed room with his team mates does that mean they all have to self-isolate, or do they expensively test every day and ensure that not one player in the entire Premier league is hit by this virus.

4. They have just tested hospitals and some sample care homes in Scotland and it has been found that on a sampling day 3% of the staff tested positive without showing any symptoms. If that is what it is showing in Cambridge as well as Scotland and is consistent with say police, fire and ambulance across swathes of the country, it could well be the same for the general population including footballers. You can't play football until we get to a near zero position in the population as the game needs fans on their seats in Scotland and the two positions just don't tally.

I have to say that I agree with your basic premise: football is fu**ed in Scotland for the foreseeable future, and whilst it was extremely tight before all this kicked off, it's now in a perilous state. We don't have a great product to sell to the TV companies, we have two dominant teams that lord it over the rest of us and that makes for a boring product that the world doesn't really want to watch, so we get highlights on BBC and Alba, occasional BT or Sky offerings that aren't taken seriously and we are well down the European and world rankings when it comes to football skills.

The football powers that be, are trying to look busy and positive, but the reality is that life in Scotland and the rest of Europe has changed for the foreseeable future and there is no realistic chance of of us gathering in W7 in the near future to bang the drums.  :byebye

The above has been a coherent, literate, practical, sensible post - with which, sadly, your intended audience cannot cope.

He proudly asserts (or used to) that he only reads a sentence then skims. Short attention span, I'm afraid.  And big words =  too complicated.

I can safely say this knowing that he won't be hurt or offended by my description... as he won't have read beyond the 5th word in my post.  

Shrewd use of the emoticon, though 59er!  Bright shiny things might draw him in...

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