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Drew is sorely missed on here. 

He was a good Forum buddie, neither girly or pretentious. 

Gave it to you straight with no fannying about or misquotes. 

Come back Drew. 

Not Poz, he was a diddy. 

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And here is my big gripe about all of these types of campaign.

What starts off as a fantastic symbolic gesture of solidarity by English footballers (taking the knee) suddenly turns into relentless and completely unfair pressure on all Scottish footballers to do the same.

It's Poppy Day all over again.

There's a special place in hell for these virtue signalling control freaks.

Just let the players decide for themselves. They don't need anyone pressuring them.

Personally, I think it should be dropped. The point has been well made. It's now time for actual change.

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6 hours ago, oaksoft said:

And here is my big gripe about all of these types of campaign.

What starts off as a fantastic symbolic gesture of solidarity by English footballers (taking the knee) suddenly turns into relentless and completely unfair pressure on all Scottish footballers to do the same.

It's Poppy Day all over again.

There's a special place in hell for these virtue signalling control freaks.

Just let the players decide for themselves. They don't need anyone pressuring them.

Personally, I think it should be dropped. The point has been well made. It's now time for actual change.

 

I can see how you may have come to using this term above given the amount of YouTube videos posted on this thread,However given that Shull is in fact, Shulovski and is trying to slowly infiltrate and destabilise the St Mirren support with his constant stream of divisive posts, you may want to have a period of Shulovski free time to contemplate the finer things in life. 

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And here is my big gripe about all of these types of campaign.
What starts off as a fantastic symbolic gesture of solidarity by English footballers (taking the knee) suddenly turns into relentless and completely unfair pressure on all Scottish footballers to do the same.
It's Poppy Day all over again.
There's a special place in hell for these virtue signalling control freaks.
Just let the players decide for themselves. They don't need anyone pressuring them.
Personally, I think it should be dropped. The point has been well made. It's now time for actual change.
Radio Scotland reported today that it will be adopted by all Scot Prem clubs this season as the players had agreed to back it. Quite how they were surveyed I don't know. There was no mention of any pressure it was reported that it was solely the players decision.

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13 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said:
On 7/21/2020 at 3:28 PM, oaksoft said:
And here is my big gripe about all of these types of campaign.
What starts off as a fantastic symbolic gesture of solidarity by English footballers (taking the knee) suddenly turns into relentless and completely unfair pressure on all Scottish footballers to do the same.
It's Poppy Day all over again.
There's a special place in hell for these virtue signalling control freaks.
Just let the players decide for themselves. They don't need anyone pressuring them.
Personally, I think it should be dropped. The point has been well made. It's now time for actual change.

Radio Scotland reported today that it will be adopted by all Scot Prem clubs this season as the players had agreed to back it. Quite how they were surveyed I don't know. There was no mention of any pressure it was reported that it was solely the players decision.

Ifit was the players themselves then that is fine.

Pressure certainly came from Show Racism the Red Card campaign. They said it wasn't enough for players to make their own decision.

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Radio Scotland reported today that it will be adopted by all Scot Prem clubs this season as the players had agreed to back it. Quite how they were surveyed I don't know. There was no mention of any pressure it was reported that it was solely the players decision.


Surely if this goes ahead it has to be for the opening day/weekend set of fixtures? I’d hate to think this is going to be a weekly occurrence.

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Surely if this goes ahead it has to be for the opening day/weekend set of fixtures? I’d hate to think this is going to be a weekly occurrence.
There was no suggestion it was to be a one off, hasn't been in any other league either. As I say supposedly it's the players own collective choice.

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On 7/25/2020 at 9:01 AM, Russian Saint said:

 


Surely if this goes ahead it has to be for the opening day/weekend set of fixtures? I’d hate to think this is going to be a weekly occurrence.

 

At what point does it end.  

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On 7/25/2020 at 9:01 AM, Russian Saint said:

 


Surely if this goes ahead it has to be for the opening day/weekend set of fixtures? I’d hate to think this is going to be a weekly occurrence.

 

"Hate" is about as strong a word as you can use in any context.  You "hate" the fact that participants in a sport where racial abuse has been widespread are trying to set an example and use their position to educate.  I think, most of all, you seem to "hate" the idea that you will get a persistent reminder that the behaviours that led to the movement are not to be tolerated.

Hope you enjoy explaining that to Trinidadians of African descent.

 

 

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On 6/11/2020 at 4:06 PM, portmahomack saint said:

Why didn't we think of this before,  Erasing and burying our dark and embarrassing history by knocking down these statues from 300/400 yrs ago of industrialists and traders who made their fortune in slavery and exploiting people ,  Should we really stop there, Why don't we dismantle the coliseum in Rome where they fed all those Christians to the lions for their entertainment and all those statues and monuments too while were at it, 

And lets not forget those cruel and sadistic Pharaohs of Egypt using slaves to build those big stupid Pyramids when a couple of Irish navvies could have dug a 6 ft hole in the ground for less than half the cost,  Yes lets smash those Pyramids and the Valley of the Kings to bits. 

We can't bury our history and we shouldn't even try it's who we are, We have to learn from our mistakes of the past,  We should be building more statues of people who have shown us the errors of our ways, People who deserved to be remembered for what they did. 

Real icons like Martin Luther King, Mahatma Gandhi, Mohammed Ali, Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, The Great Nelson Mandela, To name just a few,  Not George Floyd.

 

 

 

From 2003.

https://harvardmagazine.com/2003/07/who-built-the-pyramids-html

Of course you won't have heard of Adolf Hitler as there are no statues of him.

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"Hate" is about as strong a word as you can use in any context.  You "hate" the fact that participants in a sport where racial abuse has been widespread are trying to set an example and use their position to educate.  I think, most of all, you seem to "hate" the idea that you will get a persistent reminder that the behaviours that led to the movement are not to be tolerated.
Hope you enjoy explaining that to Trinidadians of African descent.
 
 


Maybe I’m missing something?
I was of the impression that this whole taking the knee was in support of the BLM movement (not to be confused with actual black lives as the BLM movement don’t seem to care about them) which found prominence as a result of the death of George Floyd at the hands (or knee) of a police officer.
So Football players take a knee for a week or for a season.......... then what? What’ll have changed? Will that have stopped racists being racist?

Your second point WRT Trinidadians of African heritage. I suggest you do a bit of research on that one. Racism is a global issue, and it’s just not whites that are racist.

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