Black Lives Matter

[stlucifer]

10 hours ago, faraway saint said:

It was a private burial ceremony. 

The dig was at the news reporting it as a private funeral service. It quite clearly wasn't.

[faraway saint]

6 minutes ago, stlucifer said:

The dig was at the news reporting it as a private funeral service. It quite clearly wasn't.

The "news", and not for the first time, were wrong. 

Apologies, read it as if the "dig" was at the organisers of the service. 

Edited June 10, 2020 by faraway saint

[shull]

 

[St.Ricky]

On 6/8/2020 at 2:43 PM, shull said:

Ha ha ha ha ha 

FORFUXSAKE 

Whatever next. 

Peter Tobin Street 

Jack The Ripper Street 

Scumbag Avenue 

Great Train Robbers Crescent 

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/18497086.amp/

Shull Named Seat at St Mirren Park

[shull]

 

[salmonbuddie]

 

Are you familiar with the expression "Ye fly wae the craws, ye get shot wae the craws"?

Just in case

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/if_you_fly_with_the_crows,_you_get_shot_with_the_crows

[shull]

Aye 

[shull]

59 minutes ago, shull said:

Aye 

Actually, naw 

[shull]

What a decent dude. 

Douglas nails it again. 

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/in-defence-of-liberalism-resisting-a-new-era-of-intolerance/amp?__twitter_impression=true

[St.Ricky]

Oh dear. Tolerance only works one way then? Very much an elitist view. It will resonate with you Shull as you are one of the elite who can... We area people. 

[portmahomack saint]

Why didn't we think of this before,  Erasing and burying our dark and embarrassing history by knocking down these statues from 300/400 yrs ago of industrialists and traders who made their fortune in slavery and exploiting people ,  Should we really stop there, Why don't we dismantle the coliseum in Rome where they fed all those Christians to the lions for their entertainment and all those statues and monuments too while were at it, 

And lets not forget those cruel and sadistic Pharaohs of Egypt using slaves to build those big stupid Pyramids when a couple of Irish navvies could have dug a 6 ft hole in the ground for less than half the cost,  Yes lets smash those Pyramids and the Valley of the Kings to bits. 

We can't bury our history and we shouldn't even try it's who we are, We have to learn from our mistakes of the past,  We should be building more statues of people who have shown us the errors of our ways, People who deserved to be remembered for what they did. 

Real icons like Martin Luther King, Mahatma Gandhi, Mohammed Ali, Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, The Great Nelson Mandela, To name just a few,  Not George Floyd.

 

 

 

[St.Ricky]

7 minutes ago, portmahomack saint said:

Why didn't we think of this before,  Erasing and burying our dark and embarrassing history by knocking down these statues from 300/400 yrs ago of industrialists and traders who made their fortune in slavery and exploiting people ,  Should we really stop there, Why don't we dismantle the coliseum in Rome where they fed all those Christians to the lions for their entertainment and all those statues and monuments too while were at it, 

And lets not forget those cruel and sadistic Pharaohs of Egypt using slaves to build those big stupid Pyramids when a couple of Irish navvies could have dug a 6 ft hole in the ground for less than half the cost,  Yes lets smash those Pyramids and the Valley of the Kings to bits. 

We can't bury our history and we shouldn't even try it's who we are, We have to learn from our mistakes of the past,  We should be building more statues of people who have shown us the errors of our ways, People who deserved to be remembered for what they did. 

Real icons like Martin Luther King, Mahatma Gandhi, Mohammed Ali, Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, The Great Nelson Mandela, To name just a few,  Not George Floyd.

 

 

 

We humans are some bunch. 

[StanleySaint]

Ghandi himself had a dubious racial past when in South Africa, taking things out of historical context is not the way to improve matters.

[Guest TPAFKATS]

Why didn't we think of this before,  Erasing and burying our dark and embarrassing history by knocking down these statues from 300/400 yrs ago of industrialists and traders who made their fortune in slavery and exploiting people ,  Should we really stop there, Why don't we dismantle the coliseum in Rome where they fed all those Christians to the lions for their entertainment and all those statues and monuments too while were at it, 
And lets not forget those cruel and sadistic Pharaohs of Egypt using slaves to build those big stupid Pyramids when a couple of Irish navvies could have dug a 6 ft hole in the ground for less than half the cost,  Yes lets smash those Pyramids and the Valley of the Kings to bits. 
We can't bury our history and we shouldn't even try it's who we are, We have to learn from our mistakes of the past,  We should be building more statues of people who have shown us the errors of our ways, People who deserved to be remembered for what they did. 
Real icons like Martin Luther King, Mahatma Gandhi, Mohammed Ali, Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, The Great Nelson Mandela, To name just a few,  Not George Floyd.
 
 
 

A statue being taken down has resulted in more people learning about the history of slavery in UK than it being displayed for nearly 200 years

[Bud the Baker]

6 minutes ago, portmahomack saint said:

Why didn't we think of this before,  Erasing and burying our dark and embarrassing history by knocking down these statues from 300/400 yrs ago of industrialists and traders who made their fortune in slavery and exploiting people ,  Should we really stop there, Why don't we dismantle the coliseum in Rome where they fed all those Christians to the lions for their entertainment and all those statues and monuments too while were at it, 

And lets not forget those cruel and sadistic Pharaohs of Egypt using slaves to build those big stupid Pyramids when a couple of Irish navvies could have dug a 6 ft hole in the ground for less than half the cost,  Yes lets smash those Pyramids and the Valley of the Kings to bits. 

We can't bury our history and we shouldn't even try it's who we are, We have to learn from our mistakes of the past,  We should be building more statues of people who have shown us the errors of our ways, People who deserved to be remembered for what they did. 

Real icons like Martin Luther King, Mahatma Gandhi, Mohammed Ali, Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, The Great Nelson Mandela, To name just a few,  Not George Floyd.

I think the Africa/America slave trade of the 17/18th century had a uniquely ethnic quality to it which affects our society to this day - we can't bury our history but I still say I say we should take down the statues of slavers.

Their is a school of thought that says the pyramids that argues that the pyramids, anyway, were built by skilled labour not slaves - despite what you read in the bible.

Your icon's list starts with advocates for non-violence like Gandhi and ends up with "The Great" Nelson Mandela who was head of the ANCs armed wing and was described as a terrorist by one ex-PM - seems a bit inconsistent to me.

Despite what Floyd may have done in the past his killing was unlawful and any attempt to diminish him is wrong.

[antrin]

1 hour ago, portmahomack saint said:

 

And lets not forget those cruel and sadistic Pharaohs of Egypt using slaves to build those big stupid Pyramids when a couple of Irish navvies could have dug a 6 ft hole in the ground for less than half the cost,  Yes lets smash those Pyramids and the Valley of the Kings to bits. 

 

Current thinking on all the Pharaonic constructions (for at least 30 years now) is that they were always Community Projects, in which everyone in that society invested themselves in accordance with the belief system they held. (Particularly when the Nile has flooded the land, making it unworkable).
 

Blame Hollywood for yet another slipshod and erroneous depiction of society.  Just like the slaves in Gone With The Wind.

[St.Ricky]

1 hour ago, StanleySaint said:

Ghandi himself had a dubious racial past when in South Africa, taking things out of historical context is not the way to improve matters.

You are correct SS. The "Indian" population in South Africa saw, and possibly still see, themselves a rung up on the ladder from the majority black population. 

[salmonbuddie]

Ghandi himself had a dubious racial past when in South Africa, taking things out of historical context is not the way to improve matters.

Aye 

Actually, naw 

Have to go with your first answer, shull, especially since the definition was there for you.

She really does attract some nasty people, check the comments if you don't believe me. The comments by the craws you're flying with.

[ALBIONSAINT]

2 hours ago, portmahomack saint said:

Why didn't we think of this before,  Erasing and burying our dark and embarrassing history by knocking down these statues from 300/400 yrs ago of industrialists and traders who made their fortune in slavery and exploiting people ,  Should we really stop there, Why don't we dismantle the coliseum in Rome where they fed all those Christians to the lions for their entertainment and all those statues and monuments too while were at it, 

 

 

 

 

A little closer to home, we have some distinct ties with the slave trade here in Paisley, Cotton street, Charleston, etc . We also have a statue of Mr Coates who at one point owned the largest thread company in the world. Although distanced from the raw commodity of cotton, he and the people of Paisley benefited hugely from the cotton industry. 
( fact check) I haven’t researched this post fully, he may have sourced cotton from Egypt, as there is an area just behind the old RAI called Egypt Park on old maps which may be a link to the cotton trade. 

[portmahomack saint]

2 hours ago, Bud the Baker said:

I think the Africa/America slave trade of the 17/18th century had a uniquely ethnic quality to it which affects our society to this day - we can't bury our history but I still say I say we should take down the statues of slavers.

Their is a school of thought that says the pyramids that argues that the pyramids, anyway, were built by skilled labour not slaves - despite what you read in the bible.

Your icon's list starts with advocates for non-violence like Gandhi and ends up with "The Great" Nelson Mandela who was head of the ANCs armed wing and was described as a terrorist by one ex-PM - seems a bit inconsistent to me.

Despite what Floyd may have done in the past his killing was unlawful and any attempt to diminish him is wrong.

So Maggie Thatcher called Nelson Mandela a terrorist in that case it must be true   As they say One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter 

And there's no inconsistencies on the list, all these people RIGHTLY in their own way or another fought for their rights, whether that be against slavery apartheid for independence or even the right just to sit on a bus, 

[portmahomack saint]

25 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said:

A little closer to home, we have some distinct ties with the slave trade here in Paisley, Cotton street, Charleston, etc . We also have a statue of Mr Coates who at one point owned the largest thread company in the world. Although distanced from the raw commodity of cotton, he and the people of Paisley benefited hugely from the cotton industry. 
( fact check) I haven’t researched this post fully, he may have sourced cotton from Egypt, as there is an area just behind the old RAI called Egypt Park on old maps which may be a link to the cotton trade. 

Your right, and if we start knocking down the buildings that were erected with the wealth created by the slave trade and the sweat and toil of all the indigenous peoples of the world that the British empire raped and pillared over the years they wont be a town or city centre still standing in Britain. 

 

[shull]

 

[St.Ricky]

Imagine that from Fox News

[beyond our ken]

I haven't and won't watch this AJ video, however i will admit to prejudice in my belief that the diatribe is delivered with the assured confidence of a man who knows he is highly unlikely to meet AJ face to face

Edited June 11, 2020 by beyond our ken

[shull]

A wonderful lady talking sense.