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It's not about us losing. Most of us would probably expect anything more than that to be a good day at the office. It's the total lack of any cohesive play, the inability to keep the ball or find your own player with a pass. The players looked terrified. The attitude of both players and management was awful (with one or two exceptions) both before and during the game. Adopt the same approach on Wednesday and we'll get a sore one.
Exactly, needing 3 touches to get a ball under controll is poor; not knowing what to do with the ball BEFORE you get it is embaraassing.

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Think the disappointing thing about today’s performance was that we didn’t really compete. Consistently gave the ball away cheaply and stood off Rangers all day. To be honest we got off lightly with a 3-0 as could easily have been 5 or 6.

Not looking forward to Wednesday as it will be more of the same no doubt 🥺

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We looked second to the ball and when we got it forward we could not take control. Make no mistake rangers were the hungrier side. We need a forward to help Obika and for the players to not give the ball away so cheaply. 

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After that miserable first half , we looked a lot better at the start of the 2nd. I thought at that time that JG might have taken a chance and replaced McGrath and Sheron with McAllister and the Icelandic lad. Game was gone once the second went in. With big Jon wasted playing one up in these games , we have to start giving ourselves a chance !

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The one positive to draw from today’s game is that we have found ourselves a very competent Goalkeeper in Alnwick. A number of fine stops and his handling was excellent. Strikes a very good clean ball and is very sharp of his line. Also not scared to punch the ball when required. At the end of the day nobody would compare to Vaclac but I am certainly not worried with Alnwick as my last line of defence. Hands down (no pun intended) our MOM this Afternoon.

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As good as it is to see Saints players strictly observing social distancing, I'm not sure that during an actual match is necessary.

That performance yesterday was so gutless that I'm reduced to making crap jokes like that as a coping mechanism.

Maybe on Wednesday we can try showing up?

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Interesting to listen to Tommy Wright on Sportsound podcast last Fiday.  When talking about St Mrren going to Ibrox, he was asked about how difficult it is to go to the ugly sisters.  He explained very clearly that the difficult part is not defending against the Old Firm, most teams can get men behind the ball.  the most important aspect is when you do get the ball, do not give it back to them easily, try to hold it, take the steam out of the game.  As I sat and watched the game, i could just hear his words coming back to haunt us!  Hot potato fotball, In most cases 2 passes and Rangers had the ball back.

Jim needs to get that part fixed.

Not fair to comment on Obika, any worldclass striker would have been isolated on Sunday.

Sadly might be more of the same on Wednesday.

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I think st mirren have just been really unlucky to get both rangers and celtic at the beginning of the season one after the other. I don't expect any points from these games and to keep goal difference down important. It would have been better to see us have a go but hopefully we came away with no injuries hense the reason mc  allister not used as injury prone. Unfortunately bad day for celtic yesterday I expect they will come out o  Wednesday with something to prove and it will be a hard game to watch 

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38 minutes ago, fan4ever said:

I think st mirren have just been really unlucky to get both rangers and celtic at the beginning of the season one after the other. I don't expect any points from these games and to keep goal difference down important. It would have been better to see us have a go but hopefully we came away with no injuries hense the reason mc  allister not used as injury prone. Unfortunately bad day for celtic yesterday I expect they will come out o  Wednesday with something to prove and it will be a hard game to watch 

I understand, at this stage, playing both Rangers and Celtic, can seem worrying but I prefer to see the positive.

These games, as you say are likely to produce zero points, but they are quickly gone.

We can then concentrate on the games that we could/should be taking points.

Also our rivals will still have to play them so we could start to have some comfort these rivals will drop points.

It is what it is, still playing the same teams the same amount of times.

It's about OUR performances, especially after Wednesday. 

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Have we calmed down yet? :spud5

Obvs yesterday was a failure as the general opinion from people who've seen all or part of the game universally agree - I couldn't bring myself to watch the highlights. :bag

Let's hope the club have a drawing board. 📉

Personally I was downstairs making a cup of coffee at the first goal and was doing something else for the other two so I'm gonna call it a 0-0 draw! :)

 

Edited by Bud the Baker

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Well I am in that age bracket of having great memories of winning at the likes of Ibrox and Celtic Park now I fully appreciate all the talk of budgets etc but for heaven's sake we are a full time top league side and the performance yesterday was truly awful.It can't be dressed up in any other way when we won possession on many occasions we just made silly errors and gave the ball back to Rangers.We were caught in possession on many occasions and that made it easy for the opposition.I don't buy this thought from Jim that you can just take nothing from the Old Firm games for me then what's the point in turning up moreover you are not instilling any confidence in the players.Big. Issue at present is the squad is way too thin and I want to hear from our Chairman soon as the usual updates appear to have gone missing,.

After that miserable first half , we looked a lot better at the start of the 2nd. I thought at that time that JG might have taken a chance and replaced McGrath and Sheron with McAllister and the Icelandic lad. Game was gone once the second went in. With big Jon wasted playing one up in these games , we have to start giving ourselves a chance !

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11 hours ago, billyg said:

After that miserable first half , we looked a lot better at the start of the 2nd. I thought at that time that JG might have taken a chance and replaced McGrath and Sheron with McAllister and the Icelandic lad. Game was gone once the second went in. With big Jon wasted playing one up in these games , we have to start giving ourselves a chance !

Do you think there is any correlation between us opening up at the start of the second half and then conceding further goals?

My issue isn’t with how we approach these games, it’s with the complete and utter inefficiency we display when those rare occasions to break come along. The run by Durmus in the first half was a prime example. You wouldn’t call it a chance. You’d call it a chance of a chance. We very very rarely convert those into actual chances, never mind goals.

Until we can master the basics of ball control and clinical decision making, we will never stand a chance in these matches. 

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10 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said:

Do you think there is any correlation between us opening up at the start of the second half and then conceding further goals?

My issue isn’t with how we approach these games, it’s with the complete and utter inefficiency we display when those rare occasions to break come along. The run by Durmus in the first half was a prime example. You wouldn’t call it a chance. You’d call it a chance of a chance. We very very rarely convert those into actual chances, never mind goals.

Until we can master the basics of ball control and clinical decision making, we will never stand a chance in these matches. 

I think there is a growing level of dissatisfaction amongst our fans  with our "we expect nothing- park the bus" approach to the Rangers and Celtic  games. The first half was absolutely miserable to watch. Rangers were playing football and we were not.

Personally, I would rather we played with more ambition and purpose. Bring back a bit of the Danny Lennon attitude and play our style of football. If 3 -0 becomes 4-0 so be it  at least we would show some balls.

Edited by magnus

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The problem for me was psychological. The players looked terrified for whatever reason. No-one wanted the ball except McGrath who had some composure but little support. Bad decisions, shocking passing, being caught in possession and ball watching were the order of the day. I think Jim has to take some responsibility for the first half attitude in particular. The game plan looked like defend in depth in the first half then open up a bit in the second half if there wasn't much in the game. But the backs to the wall and blooter the ball anywhere does little to install confidence. How about next time we try a keep possession tactic?

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