santaponsasaint Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Signs a 2 year deal for Dundee. Big mistake from us. Good player and linked up well with Obika. Gutted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted August 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Sorry didn't there wss a thread running in rumour Mill. Still bad news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Im not losing sleep on this. There are others out there. I trust Jim will get quality in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pppppp8 Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 How come a player 4 times too expensive for Saints... joined Dundee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pppppp8 Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 How has this happened... anybody ? Looks dubious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) There’s a thread covering it all in the transfer rumours section Edited August 5, 2020 by mattman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Pppppp8 said: How come a player 4 times too expensive for Saints... joined Dundee. It's easy. When we negotiated with him several weeks ago following his release, he requested a wage that was several times what we were willing to pay him. In the 6 or 7 weeks since, he clearly has not had any takers at the price his agent was floating for him. Dundee have come in with an offer significantly lower than the demands his agent put to us, one that he's reassessed and decided is now acceptable. His agent has come back to us to try and play us against Dundee's offer to try and get a similar or better deal and Goodwin has decided (as per his interview with Ali de Foy earlier) that he simply doesn't score enough goals to justify that wage, so have at you Dundee. Also, he wasn't 4 times too expensive for us, JG said we could have got 3 or 4 players for the wage he demanded, there's a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pppppp8 Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 So ...am I correct ? You suggest that Saints were not prepared to pay the same as Dundee. As they thought he was not worth the wage his agent asked for. Even though the wage demand was reduced. Saints could get more players in for a similar outlay... ? I thought he was an exciting player last year... reasonable quality. Not sure that Saints will get in the same quality. I would rather we paid the same as Dundee for Jakubiak, than bring in two or three poorer quality players. Hopefully Jim has somebody else of a similar quality in mind. Anx gets him importantly. Seems a shame Jak has gone to the Championship rather than us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmettroll Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Why the f**k is a player of his class dropping down to the championship, surely he could have got a better gig than that.. Can only imagine he's bagged himself a decent wage.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portmahomack saint Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Helmettroll said: Why the f**k is a player of his class dropping down to the championship, surely he could have got a better gig than that.. Can only imagine he's bagged himself a decent wage.. Maybe something to do with the missing vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pppppp8 Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Surely Saints could have matched his wage demands. Jim wanted him and knew that he was not a great goalscorer. He was a good forward player though and made a difference for us last season. For a wage Dundee could afford... I think we should also be able to afford him as we have higher revenue. He would be an asset. Championship ? ... he is better than that. Surely he WANTS better than that ? Anyhoo... Jim's choice it appears. Hopefully he has even better lined up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Surely Saints could have matched his wage demands. Jim wanted him and knew that he was not a great goalscorer. He was a good forward player though and made a difference for us last season. For a wage Dundee could afford... I think we should also be able to afford him as we have higher revenue. He would be an asset. Championship ? ... he is better than that. Surely he WANTS better than that ? Anyhoo... Jim's choice it appears. Hopefully he has even better lined up.... Take it you haven't heard Goodwin talking tonight ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pppppp8 Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 It's f**king mental how Jakubiak and Danny Mullen have suddenly became became Ibrahimovic and Lewandowski since leaving for the league below in some fans eyes. Both were hard workers and decent enough players who brought something to the team in fleeting glimpses but let's not pretend they won't go the same way as Cammy Smith (another whose ability we inflated above his level upon leaving) in finding their level in the championship. I certainly wouldn't be paying Alex Jakubiak the level of money I heard Dundee are paying him. In my opinion we'll get far a better quality of player for the level of wage he is on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 It's f**king mental how Jakubiak and Danny Mullen have suddenly became became Ibrahimovic and Lewandowski since leaving for the league below in some fans eyes. Both were hard workers and decent enough players who brought something to the team in fleeting glimpses but let's not pretend they won't go the same way as Cammy Smith (another whose ability we inflated above his level upon leaving) in finding their level in the championship. I certainly wouldn't be paying Alex Jakubiak the level of money I heard Dundee are paying him. In my opinion we'll get far a better quality of player for the level of wage he is on. [emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]Sanity at last.Don't get me wrong...I expect Dundee to finish highest scorers in the Championship and our two ex players to score for fun...at that level!Does not mean they would have been the long term answer to our goal drought at a higher level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie82 Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 What worries me is that he has chosen to play for a club a league below us and their season doesn’t start until Oct 17th. He won’t be playing top quality opposition and with a move to saints he would be putting himself In the shop window again by playing in our top division. Are Dundee really able to pay him better than we are? Aren’t we a league above with better money coming in ? It’s a worry for me that he’s opted to join them. I understand we will sign another striker but actually it’s another two we need . We lost Cooke, Mullen , jakubiak and chabbi from the team that finished last term. Whilst Obika was top man he needs challenged and he needs protection. What happens if he is injured. I’m just disappointed we lost out on a quality player . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, norrie82 said: What worries me is that he has chosen to play for a club a league below us and their season doesn’t start until Oct 17th. He won’t be playing top quality opposition and with a move to saints he would be putting himself In the shop window again by playing in our top division. Are Dundee really able to pay him better than we are? Aren’t we a league above with better money coming in ? It’s a worry for me that he’s opted to join them. I understand we will sign another striker but actually it’s another two we need . We lost Cooke, Mullen , jakubiak and chabbi from the team that finished last term. Whilst Obika was top man he needs challenged and he needs protection. What happens if he is injured. I’m just disappointed we lost out on a quality player . I think you will find that there will be better players available than Jakubiak and we will get one of them and maybe two ! I also predict that Dundee will finally during the season see sense and get shot of James McPake ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 58 minutes ago, norrie82 said: What worries me is that he has chosen to play for a club a league below us and their season doesn’t start until Oct 17th. He won’t be playing top quality opposition and with a move to saints he would be putting himself In the shop window again by playing in our top division. Are Dundee really able to pay him better than we are? Aren’t we a league above with better money coming in ? It’s a worry for me that he’s opted to join them. I understand we will sign another striker but actually it’s another two we need . We lost Cooke, Mullen , jakubiak and chabbi from the team that finished last term. Whilst Obika was top man he needs challenged and he needs protection. What happens if he is injured. I’m just disappointed we lost out on a quality player . No. But they are willing to pay him more than we are. It's not about available funds, it's about what you are getting for your outlay and Jakubiak, rightly, shouldn't be in a position where he is commanding a large portion of our budget. The number I heard he went in and requested initially, would have meant he was being paid about 40-50% more than our next highest earner. Decent enough as he was, that's all he was. Decent. Could anyone honestly say he should comfortably have been our highest earner? Absolutely no chance. We made the call not to pursue based on what we thought he was worth and his demands being way too far apart to meet in the middle. So no, he didn't pick Dundee over us... at the point Dundee had moved in, we had long since removed ourselves from the running. Goodwin only mentioned the negotatonos with Jakubiak last week and as a result of that, I think a lot of fans feel this is just a recent happening but the negotiations where he outpriced himself were actually about six weeks ago at the point where it was reported us and Livingston (who clearly felt the same having received his wage expectations) were in for him. By the time the demands have come down, we've either turned our sights elsewhere or decided that Jakubiak is still not worth what Dundee are throwing at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleysaint1973 Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 I for one am glad dundee have decided to throw money down the drain on a player who has decided he is billy big boots with wage demands to boot after scoring 1 goal in 10 for us. As mentioned both Livingston and ourselves walked away from thoses demands then the lower demands weeks ago not just recently. JG will get in what we need and we will have a good season i would imagine 2 will come in one a loan(Greg Stewart maybe now theyve signed 2 new ones) and 1 permanent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, paisleysaint1973 said: I for one am glad dundee have decided to throw money down the drain on a player who has decided he is billy big boots with wage demands to boot after scoring 1 goal in 10 for us. As mentioned both Livingston and ourselves walked away from thoses demands then the lower demands weeks ago not just recently. JG will get in what we need and we will have a good season i would imagine 2 will come in one a loan(Greg Stewart maybe now theyve signed 2 new ones) and 1 permanent Billy Big Boots. Could you be more Scottish. The guy is ambitious. There's nothing wrong with that. At all. The guys has pocketed the biggest pay packet the market is prepared to pay him. Exactly how is that a bad thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 If he was that good he wouldn’t be at Dundee.He scored 1 goal in 10 games for us. The way some of our fans have got their knickers in a twist about him you’d think we’d missed out on Messi.I’m sure we will sign a striker who scores more than 10% of the time before the end of August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 We don't need a prima donna who thinks he can demand more money than the rest of the team. Great way to unsettle a team. Has anyone really look at his goal ratio, hardly phenomenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleysaint1973 Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 hours ago, oaksoft said: Billy Big Boots. Could you be more Scottish. The guy is ambitious. There's nothing wrong with that. At all. The guys has pocketed the biggest pay packet the market is prepared to pay him. Exactly how is that a bad thing? I never said it was a bad thing we all want the most we can from our individual careers my point was 2 premier league clubs walked away from him 1 goal in 10 meant JG wasnt prepared to offer him his first request nor the lower one yet some on here think we have missed out on a Kane or Vardy ps signing for a championship team isnt exactly ambitious but its lined his pockets so fair play on that part of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Dundee are being bank rolled by rich Americans. They want to be in the Premiership asap so no surprise they are throwing money about and will offer more than us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Loving how the player had went from what would have be being a great signing, to a diddy who had only scored 1 goal in 10 games All because he had signed for Dundee Did he ever played a full game for us ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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