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On 9/11/2020 at 10:38 AM, Sue Denim said:

Indeed it’s a different scenario. Back in 99/00 the players in question WERE actually ill. 
 

The players today aren’t ill.

Interesting to note that more people died in the flu epidemic of 99/00 than have died in 2019/20 - despite there being a flu vaccine. 
 

Yet not only did we not lockdown, shut the NHS, remove people’s liberties and wreck the economy, no-one even remembers it!

They won't,  because you just made that up  :lol: 

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16 hours ago, santaponsasaint said:

Game wouldn't go ahead without goalies. Specialised position. Think we were doing that under Stubbs.

 

Not true. This isn't rugby.

Remember Raith played Stevenson in their relegation battle against Ayr.

Which they lost.

And then got relegated.

Instead of us.

On the last day of the season.

Poor ha ha Raith.

Poor John ha ha ha Hughes ha ha ha...

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9 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

What bit has he made up?

The last big flu outbreak occurred in 1999/2000, when 22,000 people died, which is 10 times the average for a winter flu season.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2008/dec/24/health-flu-outbreak#:~:text=The last big flu outbreak,100%2C000 population for this week.

The current death rate for COVID which includes lockdowns and no vaccine is ~41k ?

 

There is another source 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/highestnumberofexcesswinterdeathssince19992000/2015-11-25

 

which says 48k excess deaths  but I guess that includes all deaths from multiple causes ?

 

So who is right ?

 

 

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5 minutes ago, lenziebud said:

The last big flu outbreak occurred in 1999/2000, when 22,000 people died, which is 10 times the average for a winter flu season.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2008/dec/24/health-flu-outbreak#:~:text=The last big flu outbreak,100%2C000 population for this week.

The current death rate for COVID which includes lockdowns and no vaccine is ~41k ?

 

There is another source 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/highestnumberofexcesswinterdeathssince19992000/2015-11-25

 

which says 48k excess deaths  but I guess that includes all deaths from multiple causes ?

 

So who is right ?

 

 

I was just about to quote that second article about 48,000 excess deaths. You can't trust that number or the current covid death numbers for the reason you stated - it'll be multiple causes underlying them and "flu" or "covid" is an easy cause of death to register.

We've not gone through a winter with covid yet and I expect that the number of excess deaths over the same physical time period will be higher this year so it's way too early for comparisons.

For the record. Sue is almost always wrong with his data. You've just got to sometimes dig to find the flaw in his statement. In this case, he's comparing two different times of the year with one of them (covid) not over yet. The only valid comparison would be when both plagues are over. Then you can look back and compare excess deaths.

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My wife made a very valid comment: If the same had happened to either of the old firm would the same thing have applied?

Of course not they would have tried the the SPFL to postpone, and if they were told to play like us, they would have magically come up with a 4th player testing positive and they then would fall under the SPFL's rules if 4 players from the 1st team squad test positive they can apply for a postponement.

 

We missed a late trick if you ask me. :whistle

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