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These are the players and their matches as starters in the Scottish championship of the winning team of the Scottish Cup in 1987 and the playing positions where I pigeonhole them.

Part One - Top 11 in Starting Appearances

42 - Campbell Money - GK
39 - Neil Cooper - CD-DM
38 - Frank McGarvey - CF
37 - Peter Godfrey - CD
36 - Derek Hamilton - LB
35 - Ian Ferguson - CM
28 - Billy Abercromby - DM-LB
26 - Brian Hamilton - DM
24 - Paul Lambert - CM
23 - Steve Clarke - RB-CD
23 - Tony Fitzpatrick - DM

GoalKeeper, Right Back, Central Defender, Left Back,
Defensive Midfielder, Central Midfielder, Attacking Midfielder

Right Winger,Left Winger
Center Forward.

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These are the players and their matches as starters in the Scottish championship of the winning team of the Scottish Cup in 1987 and the playing positions where I pigeonhole them.
Part One - Top 11 in Starting Appearances
42 - Campbell Money - GK
39 - Neil Cooper - CD-DM
38 - Frank McGarvey - CF
37 - Peter Godfrey - CD
36 - Derek Hamilton - LB
35 - Ian Ferguson - CM
28 - Billy Abercromby - DM-LB
26 - Brian Hamilton - DM
24 - Paul Lambert - CM
23 - Steve Clarke - RB-CD
23 - Tony Fitzpatrick - DM
GoalKeeper, Right Back, Central Defender, Left Back,
Defensive Midfielder, Central Midfielder, Attacking Midfielder
Right Winger,Left Winger
Center Forward.


Maybe I've misunderstood what you are trying to say, but Stevie Clarke never played in the 87 Cup Final, he was at Chelsea by then. He was there watching it, though, and on the Town Hall balcony.

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38 minutes ago, Slarti said:


 

 


Maybe I've misunderstood what you are trying to say, but Stevie Clarke never played in the 87 Cup Final, he was at Chelsea by then. He was there watching it, though, and on the Town Hall balcony.

 

It is not the 11 of the cup final, it is the 86/87 season squad in order of games played as starters.

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2 hours ago, Slarti said:


 

 


Maybe I've misunderstood what you are trying to say, but Stevie Clarke never played in the 87 Cup Final, he was at Chelsea by then. He was there watching it, though, and on the Town Hall balcony.

 

Yes he was on the balcony with Frank MacAvennie and I was with them!!

 

Attended the council town hall reception as a guest of a Councillor and sneaked out to see the crowd on the Abbey grounds when the team presented the cup. We were standing to the side to the right of the team from their point of view. One of the best moments of my life!!!

Edited by Danny

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Dreadful that Peter Godfrey couldn't get a place in the cup final squad having played so many times that season.
Not dreadful at the most unfortunate. We have no idea what the result would have been if Basil had been in the squad of 13.

The good or excellent thing is, that us as buds know and recognize his contribution in getting us there and for all the seasons he played for us.

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2 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

Not dreadful at the most unfortunate. We have no idea what the result would have been if Basil had been in the squad of 13.

HE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE KEPT RETURNING TO TACKLES, AGAIN AND AGAIN, AD INFINITUM, EVEN THOUGH THE GAME HAD MOVED ON...

ER.....

HAUD OAN... THAT’S AN ‘S’ NOT A ‘Z’.  SORRY.  🤪

The good or excellent thing is, that us as buds know and recognize his contribution in getting us there and for all the seasons he played for us.
VERY TRUE, CAN’T ARGUE WITH THAT! :)

 

 

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3 hours ago, Wilbur said:

Dreadful that Peter Godfrey couldn't get a place in the cup final squad having played so many times that season.

Unlucky that he got an injury and lost his place, same with Paul Chalmers.

Only 13 players in the squad in those days so them was the breaks.

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13 hours ago, Eric Arthur Blair said:

Unlucky that he got an injury and lost his place, same with Paul Chalmers.

Only 13 players in the squad in those days so them was the breaks.

He was unlucky but that was down to Winnie playing so well in the semi final

But our run up to the final was poor in the league a run of defeats

Smith was sticking to the semi final team no matter what

Turned out the right decision a clean sheet for the defence

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15 minutes ago, Farmer Johnny Rocks said:

wonder why Aber only got 28 starts! 😎he was such a huge player for us and Captain much of the season?
Yes, hard luck on Godfrey and Chalmers......but, the cup dont lie.

Howdy Farmer J,how’s tricks?

Aber missed a lot of games that season after being sent off 3 times in one game in Oct 86.

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3 minutes ago, Farmer Johnny Rocks said:

amazing how things turned around for him that season.....from that awful night to raising the cup 7 months later.
dying to get a trip to Paisley HSS, not sure it is going to happen soon though,

Get yer arse here as soon as fans are allowed back.The spare room is waiting.

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This is really funny (from Wiki).

"Had goal difference been the rule in 1965 Hearts would have been champions; had goal average still applied in 1986, they would have won the league. Hearts lobbying after the league loss in 1965 cost them the title in 1986."

 

:lol:lol:lol

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1 hour ago, Farmer Johnny Rocks said:

Hearts didn't try hard enough the previous Saturday when they only beat Clydebank 1-0...or a few months previously when we beat them 6-2 at Love St.
Celtic would have beatn Hearts or Rangers or any other Scottish team 5-0 that day.

Lets face it, they blew it.  Everyone always looks for someone else to blame.  

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Second part:

22 - Ian Cameron - LM-CM
19 - Gardner Speirs - LM
18 - Brian Gallagher - CF-LW
18 - Tommy Wilson - RB
16 - Paul Chalmers - CF
15 - Kenny McDowall - CF
12 - David Winnie - CD-LB
6 - Gary Peebles - CM
4 - Doug Bell - CM
1 - Norrie McWhirter - CD
1 - Barney Duffy - GK
1 - Les Fridge - GK

GoalKeeper, Right Back, Central Defender, Left Back,
Defensive Midfielder, Central Midfielder, Attacking Midfielder

Right Midfielder,Left Midfielder

Right Winger,Left Winger
Center Forward.

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On 9/15/2020 at 10:01 AM, Farmer Johnny Rocks said:

wonder why Aber only got 28 starts! 😎he was such a huge player for us and Captain much of the season?
Yes, hard luck on Godfrey and Chalmers......but, the cup dont lie.

He had a 12 match ban that season after being shown the red card 3 times in a midweek home match against Mothewell in October 1986 

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On 9/16/2020 at 8:58 AM, J.M. said:

Second part:

22 - Ian Cameron - LM-CM
19 - Gardner Speirs - LM
18 - Brian Gallagher - CF-LW
18 - Tommy Wilson - RB
16 - Paul Chalmers - CF
15 - Kenny McDowall - CF
12 - David Winnie - CD-LB
6 - Gary Peebles - CM
4 - Doug Bell - CM
1 - Norrie McWhirter - CD
1 - Barney Duffy - GK
1 - Les Fridge - GK

GoalKeeper, Right Back, Central Defender, Left Back,
Defensive Midfielder, Central Midfielder, Attacking Midfielder

Right Midfielder,Left Midfielder

Right Winger,Left Winger
Center Forward.

I know Gary Peebles became a central midfielder when he went to Northern Ireland, but I thought all his appearances for us were at right back? 

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