bazil85 Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 23 hours ago, Sonny said: If JDH was everage then Ethan was a total liability - nowhere near as good as JDH. He's also only 19, at his rate of improvement he'll be the next Scotland international from the St Mirren youth academy. Improved leaps and bounds this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/11/2021 at 11:43 AM, Sonny said: If JDH was everage then Ethan was a total liability - nowhere near as good as JDH. Erhahon, whilst his performance was not great, still had a far better game on Saturday than JDH. There's no point in sugar-coating it, JDH has been playing rotten since well before his injury at Aberdeen. Like most others, I thought at the start of his time with us he was excellent but he's retreated deeper and deeper and now is basically a guy who hangs about in front of the back 4 and makes 5 yard sideways passes all day. What is he actually contributing to the team that makes him so important to our plans? He doesn't score goals, he doesn't provide assists, he doesn't create chances and isn't particularly strong in the tackle. We are told he has a dazzling array of passing but we've not seen that for the last 3 months or so since the early days of him being here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Erhahon, whilst his performance was not great, still had a far better game on Saturday than JDH. There's no point in sugar-coating it, JDH has been playing rotten since well before his injury at Aberdeen. Like most others, I thought at the start of his time with us he was excellent but he's retreated deeper and deeper and now is basically a guy who hangs about in front of the back 4 and makes 5 yard sideways passes all day. What is he actually contributing to the team that makes him so important to our plans? He doesn't score goals, he doesn't provide assists, he doesn't create chances and isn't particularly strong in the tackle. We are told he has a dazzling array of passing but we've not seen that for the last 3 months or so since the early days of him being here. Spot on. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Spot on. 👍 I never notice him in matches these days. Maybe homesick, or worrying about his future, whatever! a good player when his mind is on the job, there is probably better to be had for the kind of salary he might expect from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/9/2021 at 6:14 PM, FTOF said: Are we going to drop Fraser too? His new contract has been on offer for a few weeks and there hasn't been any announcement. Just saw this the first part of my subsequent post was sarcastic, but i realise that may not have been clear. If they are contracted, fit and on their game then play them till the last day. The club can't afford to offer short-term contracts and then not play those who knock back an extension half-way through. Both parties knew what they were getting into and both should do their best to get full value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/9/2021 at 6:14 PM, FTOF said: Are we going to drop Fraser too? His new contract has been on offer for a few weeks and there hasn't been any announcement. No. Why would we drop Fraser? IMO he’s been great for us pretty much all season. My point about dropping JDH is not just because he hasn’t signed a contract. It’s a combination of that and being of the opinion that he’s not much kop, or certainly no better than any other midfielder. You probably knew that, but I wouldn’t want to spoil your opportunity to make a silly, pointless jibe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: No. Why would we drop Fraser? IMO he’s been great for us pretty much all season. My point about dropping JDH is not just because he hasn’t signed a contract. It’s a combination of that and being of the opinion that he’s not much kop, or certainly no better than any other midfielder. You probably knew that, but I wouldn’t want to spoil your opportunity to make a silly, pointless jibe. I disagree. I think that Doyle-Hayes has been playing the role that he's been asked to fairly competently and deserves a place in the team, as he's by far our best option in that position, even if he hasn't hit the form that he displayed before his injury. So no, it wasn't a pointless jibe. Simply a statement, based on a different opinion than yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, FTOF said: I disagree. I think that Doyle-Hayes has been playing the role that he's been asked to fairly competently and deserves a place in the team, as he's by far our best option in that position, even if he hasn't hit the form that he displayed before his injury. So no, it wasn't a pointless jibe. Simply a statement, based on a different opinion than yours. Ok. Simple question. Do think JDH has been as good/consistent/influential as Fraser this season? In my opinion it isn’t even remotely close. If you disagree that’s fine, but your post was still silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie82 Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 I think it’s a safe bet that both will end up at Hibs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 11 hours ago, norrie82 said: I think it’s a safe bet that both will end up at Hibs Who, Doyle and Hayes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 13 hours ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Ok. Simple question. Do think JDH has been as good/consistent/influential as Fraser this season? In my opinion it isn’t even remotely close. If you disagree that’s fine, but your post was still silly. What's that got to do with anything? My post was based purely on the assumption that it was because JDH hadn't signed his offer, like Fraser hasn't, that you were wanting him dropped. Nothing to with form. So no it wasn't remotely silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, FTOF said: What's that got to do with anything? My post was based purely on the assumption that it was because JDH hadn't signed his offer, like Fraser hasn't, that you were wanting him dropped. Nothing to with form. So no it wasn't remotely silly. And I said that my view on the dropping of JDH was never solely because he refused to sign a contract. It was to do with both that and the fact that he’s not much kop. So why would you link that to Fraser being dropped when he has been excellent. I have never suggested cutting off our nose to spite our face. By dropping JDH we’d be giving someone who is committed to the club an opportunity. If I thought JDH was as important to the team as Fraser, I wouldn’t be suggesting dropping him. So to answer your question, the comparison between JDH and Fraser has EVERYTHING to do with the point in question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: And I said that my view on the dropping of JDH was never solely because he refused to sign a contract. It was to do with both that and the fact that he’s not much kop. So why would you link that to Fraser being dropped when he has been excellent. I have never suggested cutting off our nose to spite our face. By dropping JDH we’d be giving someone who is committed to the club an opportunity. If I thought JDH was as important to the team as Fraser, I wouldn’t be suggesting dropping him. So to answer your question, the comparison between JDH and Fraser has EVERYTHING to do with the point in question. So not based solely on form then? Because he hasn't signed, he's not committed to the club.................................. Much like Fraser. We'll agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 25 minutes ago, FTOF said: So not based solely on form then? Because he hasn't signed, he's not committed to the club.................................. Much like Fraser. We'll agree to disagree. Or to put it another way, let’s agree you can’t read plain English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gosport Buddie Posted May 1, 2021 Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) Another abysmal/anonymous performance. Another "reasonable" player that's had his head turned by an agent in search of a bigger fee. Time to withdraw any contract offer and use it to keep Durmus and McGrath long term Edited May 1, 2021 by Gosport Buddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman Posted May 1, 2021 Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Gosport Buddie said: Another abysmal/anonymous performance. Another "reasonable" player that's had his head turned by an agent in search of a bigger fee. Time to withdraw any contract offer and use it to keep Durmus and McGrath long term From what I’ve heard goodwins already made plans without him. Been below par since jan imo, not the way you should be playing if you’re looking for a better offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Posted May 1, 2021 Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 3 hours ago, mattman said: From what I’ve heard goodwins already made plans without him. Been below par since jan imo, not the way you should be playing if you’re looking for a better offer Just as well as he has been poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted May 1, 2021 Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 39 minutes ago, Ethan said: Just as well as he has been poor. Sadly we have contracted players that have been equally poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted May 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 11 hours ago, FTOF said: Sadly we have contracted players that have been equally poor. worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 I don’t think the boy has had his head turned or issn’t trying. I just don’t think he’s that good. I think we’ve been guilty of bigging him up too much on the back of a couple of decent performances. I have zero qualms about him leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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