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Let's put this into some perspective here.
The chances of catching the virus, despite the media continuing with their scaremongering, is very small.
The chances of coming to any great harm is also very small, the death rate per million is less than .2%
These minute chances are very much reduced if you have the vaccine.
Now I'll be quite happy with my vaccination passport, and content that everyone else on the plane has one.
When I get off the plane, I'll be comfortable enough that me, and my wife, as I'm a selfish b'strd, will be pretty safe as we'd go to a destination that has also a very safe environment.   


If I've calculated it correctly 1 in 25 folk in Scotland have tested +ive for this.

That in my opinion isn't small as not everyone that's been infected has been tested.

PS, I'll be on the first plane, albeit with face mask and shield and loads of Sanitizer.

PPS, I'll say hi to Veronica for you.

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I don't think you were accused of being a racist, you have similar traits to the forum racist, ie posting conspiracy theory videos and  links.
Anyhow, have a nice day, I have football to watch. :byebye
 


So I posted a link that I clearly stated was for the UK, which was directed to the government website. I also posted that link directly a second time to get away from the other stuff within the link.
I also posted a link to a video by Dr John Campbell. This video was him looking at reports/studies/pro’s/cons for ivermectin.

So what am i? Extremist, racist, conspiracy theorist...... or all three........or just the “Cnut” as you referred to yesterday.
You have gone from two peas in a pod (meaning. So similar as to be indistinguishable) to having similar traits, which in my opinion is a bit of back pedaling on your part. I also believe it to be a bit naughty to involve another forum member that had nothing to do with the discussion.

Accusing and or insinuating someone of racism on a public forum IMO is a very cowardly and potentially damaging thing to do, especially with no proof whatsoever, nor any knowledge of me as a person. I believe that your use of the four descriptions mentioned above actually says more about you as a person than it does about me.
As this is a public forum then I or anyone else are free to share/exchange, debate thoughts and opinions with others, unless a topic or what is written by a forum member breaks the rules of this site.
Enjoy your footie.

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2 minutes ago, Russian Saint said:

 


So I posted a link that I clearly stated was for the UK, which was directed to the government website. I also posted that link directly a second time to get away from the other stuff within the link.
I also posted a link to a video by Dr John Campbell. This video was him looking at reports/studies/pro’s/cons for ivermectin.

So what am i? Extremist, racist, conspiracy theorist...... or all three........or just the “Cnut” as you referred to yesterday.
You have gone from two peas in a pod (meaning. So similar as to be indistinguishable) to having similar traits, which in my opinion is a bit of back pedaling on your part. I also believe it to be a bit naughty to involve another forum member that had nothing to do with the discussion.

Accusing and or insinuating someone of racism on a public forum IMO is a very cowardly and potentially damaging thing to do, especially with no proof whatsoever, nor any knowledge of me as a person. I believe that your use of the four descriptions mentioned above actually says more about you as a person than it does about me.
As this is a public forum then I or anyone else are free to share/exchange, debate thoughts and opinions with others, unless a topic or what is written by a forum member breaks the rules of this site.
Enjoy your footie.

 

You're deflection is taking on new levels, we've already covered why your posts were ridiculed, and not just by me.

As for the forum racist, he's been described by quite a few as such, but again, you choose to ignore that.

You also threw in a few choice terms last night, but I can handle it.

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Cookie Monster said:


 

 


Yes as the vaccination isn't 100% effective.




Likewise for myself but I'd be more reassured if a -ive test was a requirement in the days before because of the confined environment in an aircraft.

 

There are indications that the vaccine drastically reduces transmission of the virus.

Not sure I am totally comfortable with a vaccine passport especially this obsession of uploading things on a smartphone using an app when so many people don't have smartphones or want endless apps on it but the idea of needing a vaccine to travel is many times better than having a negative test.

ETA. The quicker everyone gets vaccinated, the quicker the government will re-open things. Funnily enough though, I do support a person's right to refuse to take a vaccine. Nobody should be forcing you to take anything like that if you don't want it. So I'm a bit conflicted on all this at the moment. Russian Saint has gone full-blown saintnextlifetime though.

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3 hours ago, faraway saint said:

Let's put this into some perspective here.

The chances of catching the virus, despite the media continuing with their scaremongering, is very small.

The chances of coming to any great harm is also very small, the death rate per million is less than .2%

These minute chances are very much reduced if you have the vaccine.

Now I'll be quite happy with my vaccination passport, and content that everyone else on the plane has one.

When I get off the plane, I'll be comfortable enough that me, and my wife, as I'm a selfish b'strd, will be pretty safe as we'd go to a destination that has also a very safe environment.   :P

We all are. Even those who claim they aren't. Actually, in my experience, especially those who claim they aren't.

There's, nowt wrong with being selfish. It's a normal human trait.

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2 hours ago, Cookie Monster said:


 

 


If I've calculated it correctly 1 in 25 folk in Scotland have tested +ive for this.

That in my opinion isn't small as not everyone that's been infected has been tested.

PS, I'll be on the first plane, albeit with face mask and shield and loads of Sanitizer. emoji106.png

PPS, I'll say hi to Veronica for you. emoji16.png

 

The only numbers which matter are hospitalisations, serious illnesses and deaths.

For a nation of 5 million, those numbers are all tiny.

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2 hours ago, faraway saint said:

You're deflection is taking on new levels, we've already covered why your posts were ridiculed, and not just by me.

As for the forum racist, he's been described by quite a few as such, but again, you choose to ignore that.

You also threw in a few choice terms last night, but I can handle it.

 

 

 

He's not reading what he's posting. He's not watching the videos either.

And he's not reading or acknowledging other people's posts who have already answered his questions about those government stats.

If you don't like his "evidence", he's got a shitload more to waste your time with.

It's called sea-lioning I believe.

You're wasting your time.

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3 hours ago, Cookie Monster said:

Likewise for myself but I'd be more reassured if a -ive test was a requirement in the days before because of the confined environment in an aircraft.

 

That might be difficult to police.

The airlines would have to insist that any Covid test was carried out by a health professional or any self-test was witnessed by a health professional. Otherwise people could go for a test, and unobserved, could simply omit to swab nose/throat or swab incorrectly, thus ensuring a negative test.

Quite handy in preventing a last minute holiday cancellation due to a positive test.

The lateral testing that I have carried out , and any PCR tests that I've had, have all been self administered, without any witnesses.

From the quote below, it would seem that the system is already open to abuse and that's with a relatively tiny number of passengers, compared with what you would have with an increase in tourism.

 

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The UK government says you can provide proof of your negative test with a printed document, an email or a text message.

The proof has to include your personal details, the date the test was done, and the name of the test provider and their contact details.

 

 

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Let's put this into some perspective here.
The chances of catching the virus, despite the media continuing with their scaremongering, is very small.
The chances of coming to any great harm is also very small, the death rate per million is less than .2%
These minute chances are very much reduced if you have the vaccine.
Now I'll be quite happy with my vaccination passport, and content that everyone else on the plane has one.
When I get off the plane, I'll be comfortable enough that me, and my wife, as I'm a selfish b'strd, will be pretty safe as we'd go to a destination that has also a very safe environment.   


A bit pedantic here but 0.2% per million is 0.2% per whatever number you feckin want.

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Had mine Saturday morning, Oxford/Astrazeneca version, slight headache and a little achy and chilly Sunday morning but nothing 2 paracetamol did not fix. Today fully normal, well normal for me anyway :)

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When I went in I heard a nurse and the security guard talking saying they were surprised as they had been warned that people would be asking which vaccine they would be getting due to all the bullshit around about the Oxford one but noone had asked they all just wanted to get it so its not having too much of an effect.

Sister in law had it on Saturday too , felt worse than me but took some paracetamol and slept it off was fine by the Monday.

I thought it was 37 cases in 17 million doses? guess it depends on the news program lol

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1 hour ago, Swiss_Saint said:

When I went in I heard a nurse and the security guard talking saying they were surprised as they had been warned that people would be asking which vaccine they would be getting due to all the bullshit around about the Oxford one but noone had asked they all just wanted to get it so its not having too much of an effect.

Sister in law had it on Saturday too , felt worse than me but took some paracetamol and slept it off was fine by the Monday.

I thought it was 37 cases in 17 million doses? guess it depends on the news program lol

One thing, it's 2021, surely I could drink it or have a Star Trek type gadget rather than a big needle? 🙄

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3 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

One thing, it's 2021, surely I could drink it or have a Star Trek type gadget rather than a big needle? 🙄

I’ve always thought this,, 🤷‍♂️    It’s the 21st century and we still don’t have a better way of immunising people than using a f**king big needle and stabbing people 💉😬

Scree of needles ? Me ?     nah ! 😜

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So, Covid experts on here , ( there seems to be a few )

I’ve had covid so I’ve been told I will have a level of immunity from that, I’m due to get the jab in the next few weeks so will that make me super duper immune and able to fly anywhere and go to the football ? 

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30 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said:

So, Covid experts on here , ( there seems to be a few )

I’ve had covid so I’ve been told I will have a level of immunity from that, I’m due to get the jab in the next few weeks so will that make me super duper immune and able to fly anywhere and go to the football ? 

Obviously.🤪

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2 hours ago, Callum Gilhooley said:

So, Covid experts on here , ( there seems to be a few )

I’ve had covid so I’ve been told I will have a level of immunity from that, I’m due to get the jab in the next few weeks so will that make me super duper immune and able to fly anywhere and go to the football ? 

Have you got an appropriate wingspan for flying? Seems quite labour intensive.

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3 hours ago, faraway saint said:

One thing, it's 2021, surely I could drink it or have a Star Trek type gadget rather than a big needle? 🙄

 

3 hours ago, Callum Gilhooley said:

I’ve always thought this,, 🤷‍♂️    It’s the 21st century and we still don’t have a better way of immunising people than using a f**king big needle and stabbing people 💉😬

Scree of needles ? Me ?     nah ! 😜

I had to go through a course of interferon(self injecting) every week for two years and believe me the needle for vaccine is the thinnest I've ever seen, you don't feel a thing. Honest :rolleyes:       

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3 hours ago, Callum Gilhooley said:

So, Covid experts on here , ( there seems to be a few )

I’ve had covid so I’ve been told I will have a level of immunity from that, I’m due to get the jab in the next few weeks so will that make me super duper immune and able to fly anywhere and go to the football ? 

Safer to use a plane. :wink:

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3 hours ago, pod said:

 

I had to go through a course of interferon(self injecting) every week for two years and believe me the needle for vaccine is the thinnest I've ever seen, you don't feel a thing. Honest :rolleyes:       

Yep. They use microfine needles by the looks of it - although I did shut my eyes and avert my gaze while they were doing it for fear of passing out if I didn't.

Didn't even realise I'd had the jag when she said I was free to go over to the chairs for a wait for 15 minutes.

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