Colts

[bazil85]

1 minute ago, BuddieinEK said:

What you see as taking a pop at you, I see as complimenting someone else's humour!

A psychologist might see this as a breakthrough moment for you, paranoid antagonistic twat. Now run along and try baiting someone else!

"and that out of respect for others I let you have your much craved last word as always..."

Only when you've had your "fun" though eh? Whoooooooooosh

[oaksoft]

Anyway, back to the topic.

If someone can show me how imposing quotas (both U21 and foreign players) will avoid the hike in price of Scottish-based players which happened the last time we tried it, I'm all ears.

[bazil85]

1 minute ago, oaksoft said:

A quick check of my own suggests 15, maybe 18 but the last 3 I'm not sure about.

Some of those 15 actively loathe each other and wouldn't agree the colour of shite so I'm not sure whose "bandwagon" you think we're all jumping onto.

I'm not going to argue with you though.

 

I think it's very telling that the usual suspects have had a pop at me (again) on this thread and not a single word of condemnation against BEK.

I still see BAWA as an old boys cliché. Argue as much as you want but don't dare do it in a way we don't like or we will close rank. 

The arguing on this thread was done, it was over (even to the extent we got back onto the Colts point) and it's all started back up again, that is not on me. 

[bazil85]

2 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

Anyway, back to the topic.

If someone can show me how imposing quotas (both U21 and foreign players) will avoid the hike in price of Scottish-based players which happened the last time we tried it, I'm all ears.

Great, just what we need. I don't remember this issue happening before, what exactly was it & when?

For me, the current format in Scottish youth development isn't working and we need to try something new. Homegrown player rules works in other countries, don't see why it would fail here. Plenty of young talent in Scotland if homegrown player rules pushes prices up, surely that's a good thing for clubs prioritising youth development? 

[oaksoft]

6 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

Great, just what we need. I don't remember this issue happening before, what exactly was it & when?

For me, the current format in Scottish youth development isn't working and we need to try something new. Homegrown player rules works in other countries, don't see why it would fail here. Plenty of young talent in Scotland if homegrown player rules pushes prices up, surely that's a good thing for clubs prioritising youth development? 

Something new yes.

Something we've tried before and didn't get it to work? Not so much.

[bazil85]

Just now, oaksoft said:

Something new yes.

Something we've tried before and didn't get it to work? Not so much.

When was this and what was the impact in pushing prices up for young players? 
 

closest I remember were rules that pretty much resulted in 2 unused U21 year olds on benches. 

[oaksoft]

1 minute ago, bazil85 said:

When was this and what was the impact in pushing prices up for young players? 
 

closest I remember were rules that pretty much resulted in 2 unused U21 year olds on benches. 

I've already told you.

It happened years ago when we restricted the number of foreign players in the 1st team.

That rammed up the prices of Scottish players as would be expected.

If I remember correctly, it also harmed our performances in Europe.

Either way, it was ditched.

[bazil85]

25 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

I've already told you.

It happened years ago when we restricted the number of foreign players in the 1st team.

That rammed up the prices of Scottish players as would be expected.

If I remember correctly, it also harmed our performances in Europe.

Either way, it was ditched.

Ah right I didn’t realise that’s what you were referring to. Let’s be honest it’s significantly different. 
- it wouldn’t be 8 Scottish players, it would be a smaller number of (club based not nation based) homegrown players. 

- because it would be homegrown player rules just being Scottish wouldn’t qualify a player to meet the requirements. For example if the rule came in now, another SP team couldn’t sign Erhahon, Henderson, Reid etc to make up their own numbers as they wouldn’t meet the homegrown rules. 

- football rules have moved on. If it pushes up prices for these developed Scottish players (which would be partly the point, better quality players), there is compensation that wasn’t there before plus percentages of future sales that need to be paid. 
 

I don’t think looking at the blockers from pre 1995 (which I think was when it ended) & applying them to modern day football in a format completely different from ‘just Scottish eligible’ is all that good an argument if I’m honest. Have you maybe misunderstood what I have meant by homegrown rules? 

Edited May 19, 2021 by bazil85

[BuddieinEK]

Anyway, back to the topic.
If someone can show me how imposing quotas (both U21 and foreign players) will avoid the hike in price of Scottish-based players which happened the last time we tried it, I'm all ears.

Nice try and good question.
Pity the back on topic plea lasted for approximately no posts.

Quotas are good in theory but have their drawbacks too for sure.

[slapsalmon]

I've never even thought of ignoring someone before but honestly you should all try it. Apart from quotes all I see of the forum headache is below.

 

It's absolutely f**king glorious 

[Slarti]

I've never even thought of ignoring someone before but honestly you should all try it. Apart from quotes all I see of the forum headache is below.
 
It's absolutely f**king glorious 

I agree, BuddieinEK is a headache.

[bazil85]

28 minutes ago, slapsalmon said:

I've never even thought of ignoring someone before but honestly you should all try it. Apart from quotes all I see of the forum headache is below.

 

It's absolutely f**king glorious 

Slapsalmon has moved onto the next stage of the ignore lifecycle. The keep obsessing over the person you’ve put on ignore stage.
 

Rent free it would seem 🤣

[slapsalmon]

2 minutes ago, Yflab said:

Ffs Baz. Be the bigger man and take a break from posting for a couple of weeks. It’s tiresome.

Stop it mate. Your just trying to noise me up with the quote under the guise of telling him to piss off 😂 well played 

[slapsalmon]

1 minute ago, slapsalmon said:

Stop it mate. Your just trying to noise me up with the quote under the guise of telling him to piss off 😂 well played 

And after seeing his quote, he's f**king deluded to think I'm obsessed. The forums an absolute joy now

[bazil85]

18 minutes ago, Yflab said:

Ffs Baz. Be the bigger man and take a break from posting for a couple of weeks. It’s tiresome.

I won’t be forced off the website mate, if people don’t want to engage with me what they have to do is painfully simple.
 

But for the avoidance of doubt it isn’t obsessing over my posts, ignore function or otherwise. 

Edited May 19, 2021 by bazil85

[JPB1957]

Celtic and Rangers are set to field 'B' teams in the Lowland League next season after a "majority" of member clubs voted in favour.

The decision, having been provisionally approved by clubs earlier this month, was confirmed at the Lowland League's annual general meeting on Thursday.

Celtic and Rangers will each pay £25,000 as entry payment for their one-year participation.

Neither Old Firm colts team will be eligible for promotion.

[bazil85]

8 minutes ago, ICC said:

If every fan of the 40 Diddy Clubs refuse to purchase a Season Ticket until the Sectarian Colts are removed then the Bigot infestation wont fecking happen.

Be brave

For me right now it needs to be Lowland League fans voting with their feet, the professional structure has no real power to force action at that level (although granted SPFL/ SFA could have went on record saying they won't be able to nominate a champion if Celtic/ Rangers Colts win the league). I do hope they all see drops in season ticket uptake and home attendance at these games so we can chalk this down to a single season of awful decision making at that level. 

If they are agreed to enter at any level of the professional structure or promotion is approved in a members vote (believe would still need to pass the 11-1) I won't be buying a season ticket or giving St Mirren a penny again, I know some might make these claims and they end up unfounded, but I am resolute on not going back to St Mirren if that happens. 

*caveat, unless there is an agreement through a majority fan vote on letting colts join the league which I seriously doubt would ever happen, also on the record don't see St Mirren ever voting yes to Colts in their currently discussed form. I note Berwick Rangers claimed they had a members vote which seen slightly more than 50% in favour of Colts, if that is indeed all genuine and the votes were only those of fans, not shareholders and people linked directly to the club then fine but I have pretty big reservations given another team did the same with over 90% of fans against the proposal. 

[BuddieinEK]

If every fan of the 40 Diddy Clubs refuse to purchase a Season Ticket until the Sectarian Colts are removed then the Bigot infestation wont fecking happen.
Be brave

Firstly, calling other teams "diddy clubs" is something only fans of a certain two clubs should do.

Show some respect!

Secondly, when Rangers were being offered a free pass back into the higher leagues and boycott was suggested, most of our own fans bought the "Armageddon" arguement and we're happy to continue going to games.

Double standards.

[BuddieinEK]

We are Diddy Clubs. All 40 of us.
It's a term of endearment in a jocular way.
Meaning really, we dinnae care what Celtic and Sevco think about us.
I am proud that I am a fan of one of the 40 Diddy Clubs
And I will celebrate any one of the 40 getting it right up the Sectarian Cnuts.

Fair enough.

[bazil85]

30 minutes ago, ICC said:

We are Diddy Clubs. All 40 of us.

It's a term of endearment in a jocular way.

Meaning really, we dinnae care what Celtic and Sevco think about us.

I am proud that I am a fan of one of the 40 Diddy Clubs

And I will celebrate any one of the 40 getting it right up the Sectarian Cnuts.

IMO all Scottish clubs are "diddy clubs" now when you look at elite football. Celtic & Sevco are just bigger fish in a small pond. Think this was shown when Sevco fans wet their knickers at getting to the last 16 of the secondary European tournament, one that many bigger clubs look on as almost meaningless bar the Champions League qualifying space. 

[bazil85]

19 hours ago, Yflab said:

The only reason Celtic and Sevco are not bigger clubs on the European stage is because of the size of the TV deal we get.

You are not telling me that either of those clubs are smaller than Tottenham, Chelsea, and Leicester as examples in terms of global fan reach if they were in the English leagues.

I’d love to see the back of them from our game. These colt teams are merely Trojan horse moves by both clubs hierarchy. It’s imperative that the SPFL clubs in the top 4 divisions don’t swallow the bigot pound.

I think the idea they are still big clubs on a global scale is becoming more & more dated. With every generation that passes, the kids raised of non-Scottish based Celtic & Rangers fans families are less & less likely to support Scottish based teams. 
 

With social media, FIFA, player commercialisation & ever improving & accessible better competition, there is more chance they support & follow the teams (or individual players) being thrown down their necks. 
 

Celtic & Rangers are still sizeable clubs & if they went to EPL for example I have little doubt they would quickly claw back some of the global shine & exposure they’ve lost, however for me right now you need to look holistically. 
- club strength 

- exposure 

- financial capability 

- current global appeal. 
 

All these things considered, in recent years & likely going forward, they’re just a couple of other ‘diddy teams’ in Scottish football. 

[shull]

 

[Sonny]

 

They can f**k right off with this.

[Bgsaint]

Hopefully the Turkeys don’t vote for Christmas. But I wouldn’t bank on it.  

[Slarti]

They can f**k right off with this.

^^^ [emoji106]