Rascal Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 48 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said: I get that USA don’t have the same sense of History but does that make continuing with an outdated institution right ? Ireland doesn’t have a Monarchy and hasn’t done for Centuries but more Americans gravitate to them than the UK . The yanks love a bit of pomp , i get that but France attracts more American Visitors than The UK … and we know what they did with their Royals 😉. Perhaps there’s a lesson for us there 🤔 Correct on several fronts CG. France pulls in a huge number of visitors, far outstripping the UK. Ireland has a huge diaspora in the USA and importance. The UK has pomp , I agree, but more importantly the country provides bases for UK nuclear weapons on the edge of Europe. As I recall it, and SS is the historian, the American Colonists gave us the heave ho to be independent. Was there a lesson there for Scotland? PS. I already said that I have nothing against the present incumbent but the idea of a hereditary head of state and aristocracy doesn’t appeal to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 8 hours ago, ALBIONSAINT said: They might well be, however its pretty obvious from the crowds that minority ethnic groups are not clamouring to pay there respects. Could be 12th July. Nothing like the 12th of July. There's no bigotry , sectarianism or hatred. It's more like Last Night of the Proms which is magnificent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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faraway saint Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 Lots of people camping out on The Mall, all British so far that the BBC have interviewed. Oh, wait, a lady from Thailand, damn tourist. 🤣 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleySaint Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 10 hours ago, Rascal said: Correct on several fronts CG. France pulls in a huge number of visitors, far outstripping the UK. Ireland has a huge diaspora in the USA and importance. The UK has pomp , I agree, but more importantly the country provides bases for UK nuclear weapons on the edge of Europe. As I recall it, and SS is the historian, the American Colonists gave us the heave ho to be independent. Was there a lesson there for Scotland? PS. I already said that I have nothing against the present incumbent but the idea of a hereditary head of state and aristocracy doesn’t appeal to me. The difference being that that was at a time when the monarch still had a big say in policy, the largely ceremonial nature of our monarchy now serves as a focal point for national celebration/disgust depending on your point of view, I would love to have an independent Scotland but living in England I realise that my view is coloured by nostalgic nationalism so not sure that the oppressive feelings of the 18th century colonists are accurately reflected in modern day Scotland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 7 hours ago, shull said: Nothing like the 12th of July. There's no bigotry , sectarianism or hatred. It's more like Last Night of the Proms which is magnificent. I was referring to the ethnic group being similar (white people celebrating both occasions) Definitely no bigotry (no Jewish or Muslim heritage in the royal bloodline) or sectarianism (can a catholic become a king or queen?) or hatred (thousands of defeated citizens from countless foreign country’s the Royals reigned over would disagree, not to mention a million grouse, deer, elephants etc) it’s not on show, but just below the surface. If they just acknowledged it and tried to modernise the institution it would go a long way to tackling inequality in the country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 2 hours ago, StanleySaint said: The difference being that that was at a time when the monarch still had a big say in policy, the largely ceremonial nature of our monarchy now serves as a focal point for national celebration/disgust depending on your point of view, I would love to have an independent Scotland but living in England I realise that my view is coloured by nostalgic nationalism so not sure that the oppressive feelings of the 18th century colonists are accurately reflected in modern day Scotland. SS, I agree that the role is largely ceremonial yet it impacts on many areas of life in supporting and maintaining the/an establishment including hereditary peers. The royal family can’t marry a catholic. The PM should not be a catholic. If my memory is correct, Tony Blair was a practising Catholic but converted to Catholicism only after leaving the role. These remnants do no favours to the monarchy or the politics of a modern , progressive country. Modernise or become irrelevant and fade away is the choice. Scotland and Independence is a different argument. Scotland was and remains a Country in its own right. It did join a Union as did the UK in joining the EU. The UK left as sentiment changed. Scotland, I would imagine, should have at least the same right to choose to stay or remain. (There was more than one vote on joining, remaining in the EU so people can change their mind.) To me that decision should be made on very pragmatic grounds. I am not Anti English (other than in sports) but I am Pro Scots be that Devolved as at present, Scotland within a Federal UK, Scotland as an Independent Country in Europe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Rascal said: SS, I agree that the role is largely ceremonial yet it impacts on many areas of life in supporting and maintaining the/an establishment including hereditary peers. The royal family can’t marry a catholic. The PM should not be a catholic. If my memory is correct, Tony Blair was a practising Catholic but converted to Catholicism only after leaving the role. Ermmmmm…..? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/12/catholic-prime-minister-no-10-watershed-moment-boris-johnson So the current PM IS catholic. The Buffoon was baptised as catholic like his Maw. Shape-shifted (no doubt to fit in the Establishment) to Anglicanism, when he went to Eton.. Edited June 4, 2022 by antrin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, antrin said: Ermmmmm…..? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/12/catholic-prime-minister-no-10-watershed-moment-boris-johnson So the current PM IS catholic. The Buffoon was baptised as catholic like his Maw. Shape-shifted (no doubt to fit in the Establishment) to Anglicanism, when he went to Eton.. Thanks Antrin. One lives and learns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Callum Gilhooley Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 hour ago, antrin said: Ermmmmm…..? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/12/catholic-prime-minister-no-10-watershed-moment-boris-johnson So the current PM IS a c**t The Buffoon was baptised as catholic like his Maw. Shape-shifted (no doubt to fit in the Establishment) to Anglicanism, when he went to Eton.. Yep , I think most people would agree with that 👍 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 The same guys that did "Boris Johnson is a c**t" and "Boris Johnson is still a c**t". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HSS Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 The Queen made a surprise visit to Paisley today 👑🇬🇧 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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renfrew156 Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 41 minutes ago, shull said: prince andrew the beast has invited him to woking pizza hut where he assures him he will not sweat, but he cannot assure prince william he will not hang around the ladies toilets 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ALBIONSAINT Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 I wish I could be as virtuous as Prince William, I mean look at him, spending an afternoon on the streets with the homeless, and a photographer and a PR team and his security team. Do people really believe this Guff? I bet he didn’t ask the guy if he wanted to come and live in one of the rooms of his big palace. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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