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St Mirren v St Johnstone, Sunday 29th August


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2 hours ago, Prague Buddie said:

Erwin on for Main

Hopefully this is the last time we see big Lee in a Saints shirt, lolloping around. If it wasnt for falling over the ball or heading it out of play, the final straw for me was when Dennis closed down a St J defender, but couldnt stop them as lolloping Lee was in another fecking postcode, just lolloping around as usual. FFS.

* edited to add, if any scouts are reading this, i'm sure he just needs a change of scenery, and will then go onto score 20 a season.

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9 minutes ago, northstbuddie said:

Who are worse than us so far this season?

Possibly Livi and I fear we will be scrapping with them for the bottom spot at the end of the season.

However, even Livi play better football than us.

Thing is Hamilton, Kilmarnock, Ross county and Motherwell were having honkin seasons last season, can't say much for Dundee utd so maybe our finishing position had more to do with  other teams misfortunes than genius tactics which have been quite apparent already are lacking. To be brutally honest we should be really sitting on either 7 or 9 points after the 4 games we've had, not 2. 

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6 minutes ago, Cumbriansaint72 said:

Thing is Hamilton, Kilmarnock, Ross county and Motherwell were having honkin seasons last season, can't say much for Dundee utd so maybe our finishing position had more to do with  other teams misfortunes than genius tactics which have been quite apparent already are lacking. To be brutally honest we should be really sitting on either 7 or 9 points after the 4 games we've had, not 2. 

This idea that we only finished where we did because other teams are "honking" has been thrown around for years and is, if you don't mind me saying, its utter drivel.

Not sure what team you think we are but I've seen nothing to suggest we should be taking it for granted we should be beating Hearts or St Johnstone.

Dundee are just up, not the best game to get them at the start of the season.

 

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Last season didn't count, no fans, lack of cash and absolutely no pressure from fans to win games. Soon as fans are back normal service is resumed. You cannot have 4 non scoring strikers at club, no wingers, no pace and no creativity in midfield and expect to win games....unless 3 or 4 serious signings made then relegation all day long for this squad.

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5 minutes ago, God of war said:

Last season didn't count, no fans, lack of cash and absolutely no pressure from fans to win games. Soon as fans are back normal service is resumed. You cannot have 4 non scoring strikers at club, no wingers, no pace and no creativity in midfield and expect to win games....unless 3 or 4 serious signings made then relegation all day long for this squad.

Tell that to St Johnstone and Rangers. :lol:

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Unless we bring in at least 1 wide player before the deadline then it's going to be hard few months. We lack width and pace and as a result we're creating very few goal scoring chances. Defensively we were reasonable but that's not going to win us games. 

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Totally agree with poster saying 4 non scoring strikers,you cannot call them strikers as brutal, a said to my nephew after last game of season "good we won't see Erwin again "but he still there,am afraid to say this team is horrendous and buck stops with Goodwin unfortunately a got season book but there is no  way il honour it as a just cannot watch thst shitfest anymore ave been saying for 4 seasons we need striker coach,even part time because Goodwin, sharp,langfield, Webster, McManus couldn't hit a coo,s arse with a banjo in there playing days so whst the feck do they no about that department a dont no,so something has to give as that teqm relegation certs

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Pretty disappointed with the performance today. As bad a midfield performance I've seen in a long time. Even McGrath was not firing on all cylinders. The strikers for some reason bore the brunt of the midfields lack lustre performance with Main and Brophy getting hooked for Dennis and Erwin. Pointless when the issue was in midfield. Why Jim never at least took Erhahon off for McPherson I'll never know. Particularly when Erhahon got his 1st booking. I'm not one of the screaming boo boys Erhahon haters that slag him off every week on this site but he definitely had a stinker today. There has been signs of a decent player over the last year and I hope he gets back on track. Today though he looked sluggish and his passing was poor but then tbh nobody in midfield looked up for it today. 

We were lucky to get 0 - 0 today. 

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Its def a huge step back and total lack of a plan in every dept.... Main Brophy doesnt work.... two wee guys with no clear understanding and a flooded midfield we usually bypass.... 3 reds in 4 games is also a sign things are not well... we need pace or the only thing we will be speeding towards is the Championship

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3 minutes ago, eckthesaint said:

Pretty disappointed with the performance today. As bad a midfield performance I've seen in a long time. Even McGrath was not firing on all cylinders. The strikers for some reason bore the brunt of the midfields lack lustre performance with Main and Brophy getting hooked for Dennis and Erwin. Pointless when the issue was in midfield. Why Jim never at least took Erhahon off for McPherson I'll never know. Particularly when Erhahon got his 1st booking. I'm not one of the screaming boo boys Erhahon haters that slag him off every week on this site but he definitely had a stinker today. There has been signs of a decent player over the last year and I hope he gets back on track. Today though he looked sluggish and his passing was poor but then tbh nobody in midfield looked up for it today. 

We were lucky to get 0 - 0 today. 

Check Facebook, you'll see some serious comments about him, nothing on here matches that tirade.

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9 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

Check Facebook, you'll see some serious comments about him, nothing on here matches that tirade.

Im glad supporters are waking up to Erharhon. Watch highlights, and follow his movement, its schoolboy stuff; not just him, others are never SPL players.

Remember, our clubs got humiliate in Europe. 

Shite, shite and over paid shite

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1 hour ago, Sonny said:

Don't know why everyone is complaining about midfielders. According to Jim we don't need any as every defender is under instruction to fire high balls as far up the pitch as possible and when it comes straight back fire a high ball as far up the pitch as possible and when ... Ach I am sure you can work it out.

Indeed. Rae got punted for similar football. And being a c**t. 

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Ethan got his first booking taking one for ghe tean, his second was because he didn't play a simple pass with his right foot instead tried his trade mark turn yo get it on to his left ghat everyone knows about lost the ball and lunged, it is his major weakness and nothing seems to have been done to address it, between him and McCarthy they were able to break up play (not before surrendering loads of territory) but neither could find a team mate when it mattered.

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2 hours ago, faraway saint said:

This idea that we only finished where we did because other teams are "honking" has been thrown around for years and is, if you don't mind me saying, its utter drivel.

Not sure what team you think we are but I've seen nothing to suggest we should be taking it for granted we should be beating Hearts or St Johnstone.

Dundee are just up, not the best game to get them at the start of the season.

 

But FS others were honking and the tactics thing was plain to see against hamilton pre split game. Went 1 up then instead of keeping on front foot went into hard to beat mode and we all know what happened. Hindsight a great thing and is great we all don't have same opinion👍

 

Given what I'd really say player wise, an improvement to last season i think its fair to suggest a rather better return pointwise and team performance.

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I dont think we played well today, especially second half, and the formation and team selection was strange to say the least.

However, some of the comments are an over reaction. I think the selection may have been influenced by losing 6 last week - in that respect it worked as we kept a clean sheet, and Jak was back to his usual form. 

We are clearly playing a system the players arent comfortable with and need to sort that asap, but we need to understand this is a very competitive league, there is no obvious weak teams and outside the bigots, everyone can beat everyone else. Today was quite an even game, we didnt lose it, and were playing against a team who finished 5th and won two cups last season. A bit of perspective is required.

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Just saw our disallowed goal on telly. Very unlucky to get it disallowed and should’ve been 1-0 up. How McCann didn’t see a second yellow for scything down McGrath on the edge of the box is an absolute joke. Yes, we are definitely struggling at the moment but not getting much help from decisions either. 

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18 minutes ago, Hendo said:

I dont think we played well today, especially second half, and the formation and team selection was strange to say the least.

However, some of the comments are an over reaction. I think the selection may have been influenced by losing 6 last week - in that respect it worked as we kept a clean sheet, and Jak was back to his usual form. 

We are clearly playing a system the players arent comfortable with and need to sort that asap, but we need to understand this is a very competitive league, there is no obvious weak teams and outside the bigots, everyone can beat everyone else. Today was quite an even game, we didnt lose it, and were playing against a team who finished 5th and won two cups last season. A bit of perspective is required.

Who do you think we are capable of beating in our present state?

St Johnstone played us off the park football-wise by the proverbial mile. They maybe didn't score today but they have 4 or 5 forwards who would walk into our team.

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Who do you think we are capable of beating in our present state?
St Johnstone played us off the park football-wise by the proverbial mile. They maybe didn't score today but they have 4 or 5 forwards who would walk into our team.

No they don’t. They have Middleton, who’d provide some pace, but they have the exact same issues up front as we do - in Callum Hendry, they have possibly the worst striker in the league, and Stevie May is a 3-a-season striker if that.

What they do have, though, is a functioning midfield, even with Davidson getting rested.
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5 hours ago, northstbuddie said:

This is relegation form.

We don't have a clue how to pass the ball or create a chance.

I agree that we were not great today. But everyone should try to remember that we have lost to Celtic (1st or 2nd) and Hearts (top 4 finish, IMHO). As @faraway saint rightly stated, St. Johnstone are a good side who won both cups last season, and drew with Galatasaray in Istanbul, for heaven's sake!

I thought the booing today was awful...a bit like the queues to get in. Speaking of which, I saw a big bearded lad remonstrate with the SLO outside the turnstiles of the West stand. It was clear there was some technical issue that prevented him from entering, and he was extremely frustrated and stated that he had been a season ticket holder for twenty years - the SLO wouldn't take his word for it and he was refused entry. What is happening to our club? The boy should have been given the benefit of the doubt. Better to give one chancer entry once, given the circumstances, than to treat a loyal fan like that.  

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Thought first half we were OK and should have scored a couple, no idea why the goal was chalked off. Dunne is a specimen. Tall, fast and decent in air. Loves a 40 yard diagonal that won't always work but splendid when it does.

Thought McCarthy did OK in holding mid. Ethan has bulked up but now turns slower than the Titanic. Should have been subbed.

2nd half chronic. No pace in wide areas. We need a bona fida RWB to make the system work. Wingers won't sign up knowing that.

Interesting end to window.

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6 hours ago, Ronnie said:
6 hours ago, Slash said:
I reckon there must be less than 100 fans in that away stand. Appalling decision by St Mirren to not sell tickets to St Johnstone fans. 

And they are all St Johnstone fans anyway so why not give them tickets? Another crazy club decision.

They were! Fair play to them. A bit sheepish at first, but they all soon realised they were amongst their own and were applauding their substitutions by the end.

6 hours ago, Tommy said:

Tony now on the telly so think i will go for a 15 min walk now  😂

Ach, I love the guy's enthusiasm, but I sometimes think he says the stuff he does to win a bet... 

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