guinness Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 47 minutes ago, TopCat said: Ok tell me who, in the last 30 years, which is how long i've been watching. Note i did say 'one of the best', not the best. Off the top of my head Thompson. Dorman. Thomson. McGinn. I am not getting at you personally I just find that people now bum up players that are only moderate. McGrath was the same. The standard in the Premier League is appalling .the reason the League is so tight from fourth to ninth is that they are all shit. Maybe I am just an old cynic but the level of player now is very poor. Moderate players look good. Perhaps I am hankering after a time that never existed. Maybe I should just chuck it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted March 22, 2022 Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 15 hours ago, guinness said: Off the top of my head Thompson. Dorman. Thomson. McGinn. I am not getting at you personally I just find that people now bum up players that are only moderate. McGrath was the same. The standard in the Premier League is appalling .the reason the League is so tight from fourth to ninth is that they are all shit. Maybe I am just an old cynic but the level of player now is very poor. Moderate players look good. Perhaps I am hankering after a time that never existed. Maybe I should just chuck it. Thompson was also one of the greatest i've seen at St Mirren. Dorman and Thomson? No chance, wouldn't have either of them in the top ten tbh. I remember the boo boys really going after Dorman and Thomson was just a decent player - neither of their scoring rates from midfield was anywhere near Ronan's. Unsure what McGinn you mean as we've had three. By Premier League do you mean Scottish Premiership? I agree the standard of Scottish Football outside the top two is really poor, as results in Europe show. That's why a guy like Ronan, who is 24 and contracted to an EPL club, stands out so much. McGrath is also nowhere near Ronan's level either, can't get a game for Wigan, we did well getting a fee for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted March 22, 2022 Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, TopCat said: Thompson was also one of the greatest i've seen at St Mirren. Dorman and Thomson? No chance, wouldn't have either of them in the top ten tbh. I remember the boo boys really going after Dorman and Thomson was just a decent player - neither of their scoring rates from midfield was anywhere near Ronan's. Unsure what McGinn you mean as we've had three. By Premier League do you mean Scottish Premiership? I agree the standard of Scottish Football outside the top two is really poor, as results in Europe show. That's why a guy like Ronan, who is 24 and contracted to an EPL club, stands out so much. McGrath is also nowhere near Ronan's level either, can't get a game for Wigan, we did well getting a fee for him. My memory isn’t to trusted when it comes to comparing players as I either seem to remember their best or worst spells. John McGinn stands out for me and his progress in the game is testament to that. Dorman scored some high profile goals. McGrath had a great season in the one before he left. Ronan is a special player at our level. Quick witted, quick footed, can hold the ball and make a pass and of course score spectacular goals. Me..I liked wee Mavis Reilly. Edited March 22, 2022 by Rascal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 9:46 AM, Rascal said: And now makes his debut call up for Ireland. It’s been a good move for him to come to Paisley and good for us. Well done Connor. Ps. His dad was at the last Motherwell away game. In talking to one of my sons he said that Connor was loving his time with us and playing every week. And now mentioned as one of the best https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/five-surprising-scottish-premiership-standouts-23492334 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balmullo Bud Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 Conor hasn’t made the squad for tonight’s game against Belgium. Shame for the lad but still a good experience going over there and training with the squad. I’m sure his time will come. He’s got the talent and seems a good lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 18 hours ago, Balmullo Bud said: Conor hasn’t made the squad for tonight’s game against Belgium. Shame for the lad but still a good experience going over there and training with the squad. I’m sure his time will come. He’s got the talent and seems a good lad. Hopefully he’ll get a chance in their game against Lithuania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guinness Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 On 3/27/2022 at 11:55 AM, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Hopefully he’ll get a chance in their game against Lithuania. Not in pool again tonight. Bit off taking him and not even putting him on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 Just now, guinness said: Not in pool again tonight. Bit off taking him and not even putting him on the bench. Good experience for the young guy. I really rate him but it’s hard to break into the Ireland Team. (McGrath apart) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guinness Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 59 minutes ago, Rascal said: Good experience for the young guy. I really rate him but it’s hard to break into the Ireland Team. (McGrath apart) Fair enough but thought he could have at least made the bench. He is 24. Not that young by football standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portmahomack saint Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Rascal said: Good experience for the young guy. I really rate him but it’s hard to break into the Ireland Team. (McGrath apart) McGrath's been dropped from the Irish squad because he can't even get in the Wigan squad.... Big move to that hotbed of English football Wigan gone sour it seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 There’s been quite a bit of recent flak for the Irish manager - that he has been giving too many games to too many players who happen to be Irish. so McGrath and Ronan being selected, whilst being kinda positive, is still perhaps not too tough currently. Irish results are not that bad despite the criticism…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 47 minutes ago, portmahomack saint said: McGrath's been dropped from the Irish squad because he can't even get in the Wigan squad.... Big move to that hotbed of English football Wigan gone sour it seems Correct PS. What a first season he had with us. Difficult to replicate that anywhere I would think. He will have the consolation of a much larger pay packet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guinness Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 9 hours ago, Rascal said: Correct PS. What a first season he had with us. Difficult to replicate that anywhere I would think. He will have the consolation of a much larger pay packet. Is he not injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, guinness said: Is he not injured? Not according to this Guiness https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/kenny-sends-out-clear-message-with-exclusion-of-mcgrath-from-squad-1.4830638 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Wigan are on a long winning run currently second top, one point behind with two games in hand. They got that far without Jamie. So they should change a winning team to accommodate him? Jamie is current in warm winter training in Dubai and on big money so I do not really think he is too upset about his situation at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 5:48 PM, guinness said: Off the top of my head Thompson. Dorman. Thomson. McGinn. I am not getting at you personally I just find that people now bum up players that are only moderate. McGrath was the same. The standard in the Premier League is appalling .the reason the League is so tight from fourth to ninth is that they are all shit. Maybe I am just an old cynic but the level of player now is very poor. Moderate players look good. Perhaps I am hankering after a time that never existed. Maybe I should just chuck it. Thomson? You on the swally? He couldn’t lace Ronan’s boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portmahomack saint Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 17 hours ago, Rascal said: Correct PS. What a first season he had with us. Difficult to replicate that anywhere I would think. He will have the consolation of a much larger pay packet. As a footballer with ambition don't think it's much of a consolation... and I don't think he could possibly have made a worse choice moving to Wigan... looking ahead it probably looks even bleaker. They will strengthen their team if they get promoted.. if he can't get a place on the bench now what chance next year in the championship 0% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, portmahomack saint said: As a footballer with ambition don't think it's much of a consolation... and I don't think he could possibly have made a worse choice moving to Wigan... looking ahead it probably looks even bleaker. They will strengthen their team if they get promoted.. if he can't get a place on the bench now what chance next year in the championship 0% I see your point but money talks. IMO Aberdeen would have been a better fit. Would have kept him playing , kept him in the Irish team, earned him a good bit more than we were paying and maybe set him up for a bigger move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 Aberdeen, Hearts and St Pauli want Connor Ronan https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/sport/football/connor-ronan-wanted-st-pauli-26824148 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainstand Sweary Mob Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 Aberdeen, Hearts and St Pauli want Connor Ronan https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/sport/football/connor-ronan-wanted-st-pauli-26824148Did Jim not say before it would be in the region of 500k to get him? Do Aberdeen have that to hand? Should they not save that money to pay off Jim as the fans are not to keen on him. [emoji1787]Sent from my IN2023 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 Did Jim not say before it would be in the region of 500k to get him? Do Aberdeen have that to hand? Should they not save that money to pay off Jim as the fans are not to keen on him. [emoji1787]Sent from my IN2023 using TapatalkThey may just be looking to take him on loan rather than sign him. [emoji6] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 Europe would be better for his development , we have no chance of the loan being extended . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) On 3/21/2022 at 5:48 PM, guinness said: Off the top of my head Thompson. Dorman. Thomson. McGinn. I am not getting at you personally I just find that people now bum up players that are only moderate. McGrath was the same. The standard in the Premier League is appalling .the reason the League is so tight from fourth to ninth is that they are all shit. Maybe I am just an old cynic but the level of player now is very poor. Moderate players look good. Perhaps I am hankering after a time that never existed. Maybe I should just chuck it. 100% correct IMO. It really is laughable. Conor Ronan is League One in England and no higher. I've seen 76 of the 92 league teams in England and some 3 and 4 times. Followed Ipswich Town for 4 years as season ticket holder and he'd never have got in the Town teams I watched. Still follow Ipswich and he wouldn't get in their first team. Not the slightest bit surprised that McGrath is not getting a start at Wigan I remeber the bull after Adam Hamill worldy Edited April 29, 2022 by lenziebud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 hour ago, linwood buddie said: Europe would be better for his development , we have no chance of the loan being extended . I share your view on both and as the article suggests , if St Pauli make the top league in Germany then that’s where he should and , I think, would go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 At 24 Ronan should be a first team regular for someone. He can not spend his career on loan. Time for him to get a team and be settled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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