Hendo Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 Got an email from SMISA to say their nominated new Director is Alex White. I'm sure he is a good guy, even though he did use words in his personal statement like "perturbations" which I had to look up the meaning of. However, sadly, I won't be endorsing Mr White's appointment, due to the selection process not being democratic. I hope others will take a similar stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 I am sure he won’t be “perturbed “ by your decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanb Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 37 minutes ago, Hendo said: Got an email from SMISA to say their nominated new Director is Alex White. I'm sure he is a good guy, even though he did use words in his personal statement like "perturbations" which I had to look up the meaning of. However, sadly, I won't be endorsing Mr White's appointment, due to the selection process not being democratic. I hope others will take a similar stance. How long before he is the Chair though ? Is he on Twitter ? and has it been vetted or deleted yet ? More worrying, is he on the Facebook supporters page ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 Got an email from SMISA to say their nominated new Director is Alex White. I'm sure he is a good guy, even though he did use words in his personal statement like "perturbations" which I had to look up the meaning of. However, sadly, I won't be endorsing Mr White's appointment, due to the selection process not being democratic. I hope others will take a similar stance.As it was a democratic vote for this process then by your stance you aren't supporting democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) I'm almost certain that he played CH, for a few seasons, for a team I ran in the 80's/90's. Seemed a very decent guy. Had the turning circle of a super tanker and didn't drink, are two things I remember about him. Edited November 30, 2021 by FTOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, FTOF said: I'm almost certain that he played CH, for a few seasons, for a team I ran in the 80's/90's. Seemed a very decent guy. Had the turning circle of a super tanker and didn't drink, are two things I remember about him. Not great character references TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 hour ago, ALBIONSAINT said: I am sure he won’t be “perturbed “ by your decision But he may be considering going into a state of perturbation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldorf34 Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said: As it was a democratic vote for this process then by your stance you aren't supporting democracy. Directors of Smisa MUST be elected by the members Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanb Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, waldorf34 said: Directors of Smisa MUST be elected by the members This guy’s is not a SMiSA director candidate but club board representative Rules state SMiSA select then members approve decision Would have liked to know who the other candidates were though and all was on the level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Hendo said: Got an email from SMISA to say their nominated new Director is Alex White. I'm sure he is a good guy, even though he did use words in his personal statement like "perturbations" which I had to look up the meaning of. However, sadly, I won't be endorsing Mr White's appointment, due to the selection process not being democratic. I hope others will take a similar stance. Taking the same stance, fans should be able to have a choice of a few, then whoever gets the majority should then go to a yes/no vote, far more democratic imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 19 hours ago, alanb said: This guy’s is not a SMiSA director candidate but club board representative Rules state SMiSA select then members approve decision Would have liked to know who the other candidates were though and all was on the level I know one of the other candidates that was interviwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, FTOF said: I know one of the other candidates that was interviwed. Was it you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddiecat Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 11/30/2021 at 10:38 PM, mattman said: Taking the same stance, fans should be able to have a choice of a few, then whoever gets the majority should then go to a yes/no vote, far more democratic imo. SMiSA committee operates on a democratic voting system, I know this from experience. Only problem with that in my time on the committee was there was a majority clique who won every vote they wanted to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 12/1/2021 at 5:59 PM, faraway saint said: Was it you? Certainly not. Other than paying whatever I pay every month, I'm not interested in the petty squabbling that seems to be part of every boardroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brilliant Disguise Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) On 12/3/2021 at 2:01 PM, buddiecat said: SMiSA committee operates on a democratic voting system, I know this from experience. Only problem with that in my time on the committee was there was a majority clique who won every vote they wanted to win. That sounds like a golf club committee. Run by cliques who don’t like anyone advising them of varying opinions to their own. Voting their own on to positions. Sounds the very reason why fan ownership will never succeed. This handing the members one person to vote for in an election is straight out of the dictatorship handbook. Suppose its one way of ensuring that your members only get to see the people you want them to see. Thus keeping the clique cycle going. Edited December 7, 2021 by Brilliant Disguise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamlet Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, Brilliant Disguise said: That sounds like a golf club committee. Run by cliques who don’t like anyone advising them of varying opinions to their own. Voting their own on to positions. Sounds the very reason why fan ownership will never succeed. This handing the members one person to vote for in an election is straight out of the dictatorship handbook. Suppose its one way of ensuring that your members only get to see the people you want them to see. Thus keeping the clique cycle going. I agree with you that fan ownership will never succeed but not for the reason you have suggested. I must defend your suggestion of clique committee's. All type of clubs have the "experts" who sit on their hands and always know better than the "clique" committe's who can have difficult decisions (especially currently) to make. The experts have the opportunity to join the committee, if elected, on an annual basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brilliant Disguise Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, hamlet said: I agree with you that fan ownership will never succeed but not for the reason you have suggested. I must defend your suggestion of clique committee's. All type of clubs have the "experts" who sit on their hands and always know better than the "clique" committe's who can have difficult decisions (especially currently) to make. The experts have the opportunity to join the committee, if elected, on an annual basis. I agree that everyone is an expert other than the people on the committee. Thats human nature. You only have to look at the 65m people in Britain that are Covid experts. The issue with cliques is that they close ranks to ensure that the “experts” don’t get a chance to be heard or voted on. I’m only looking from the outside and can see that the paying SMISA representatives only 2 occasions have only been able to vote for a single candidate. The “selection process” was undertaken by the SMISA committee before they got a chance to vote. That seems a very closed book way of being open to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 11/30/2021 at 8:31 PM, FTOF said: I'm almost certain that he played CH, for a few seasons, for a team I ran in the 80's/90's. Seemed a very decent guy. Had the turning circle of a super tanker and didn't drink, are two things I remember about him. I played beside him Into his kickboxing and sparred with Lex Easdon He was St Mirren fan not many of us in the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/in-your-area/renfrewshire/new-smisa-director-alex-white-25900366 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagleybuddies Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 Can we get renaming the station Paisley St Mirren on the top of his agenda? The original excuse was it would take 2 or 3 years to rework the scheduling and ticketing etc. It’s been 10 years now, let’s hope Alex can deliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 53 minutes ago, Hagleybuddies said: Can we get renaming the station Paisley St Mirren on the top of his agenda? The original excuse was it would take 2 or 3 years to rework the scheduling and ticketing etc. It’s been 10 years now, let’s hope Alex can deliver. Can’t see it happening. Cost prohibitive if the club were to be asked to fund it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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