faraway saint Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Well, quite a few, let's start with the new pedestrian change................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 moffat buds Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Well, quite a few, let's start with the new pedestrian change................ Forgot about the new rules last night when waiting to cross the road in Dundee. A car stopped halfway round the corner and we thought ‘wtf are they waiting for?’ then we remembered and had to acknowledge them abiding by the new laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Well, quite a few, let's start with the new pedestrian change................ ... and get run over by a tonne of metal but die happy knowing that the driver will get the blame and get 6 points and a £250 fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Next up, bikests, this seems a crazy rule and will, if it hasn't already, cause problems. The ambiguous "on quieter roads and slow moving traffic" change is only going to result in friction. Motorists and cyclists have become embroiled in a war of words over new changes to the Highway Code. The updated guidance advises cyclists to ride in the centre of lanes on quieter roads, in slow-moving traffic, and when approaching junctions to make themselves as visible as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 That is pretty clear, putting the onus on cyclists to be positionally visible, and should only cause friction when motorists don't respect the cyclist's right to assert their position on the road. I think most cyclists can understand what a quieter road is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 32 minutes ago, beyond our ken said: That is pretty clear, putting the onus on cyclists to be positionally visible, and should only cause friction when motorists don't respect the cyclist's right to assert their position on the road. I think most cyclists can understand what a quieter road is. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 14 hours ago, faraway saint said: 😆 Got to say that I didn’t expect better when you accept low standards it is hard to be disappointed by dross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 6 hours ago, beyond our ken said: Got to say that I didn’t expect better when you accept low standards it is hard to be disappointed by dross Your post didn't deserve anything more. TBH it's what I expect form you, the rules for cyclists are ambiguous and your replay is equally vague, like most of your posts. 20 hours ago, faraway saint said: I think most cyclists can understand what a quieter road is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-Leeds Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 One they could have added?All cyclists must wear high viz jacket/ top ( no exceptions adults and kids ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 35 minutes ago, Scott-Leeds said: One they could have added? All cyclists must wear high viz jacket/ top ( no exceptions adults and kids ) When it's dark. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 39 minutes ago, faraway saint said: When it's dark. 👍 Why only when it’s dark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Hi Vis, helmets, hand signals, bells and the one that a lot of cyclist that I've come across don't seem to think they need when dark, lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/30/2022 at 10:05 PM, Slarti said: ... and get run over by a tonne of metal but die happy knowing that the driver will get the blame and get 6 points and a £250 fine. Wait for the claims to come in. The new crash for cash scheme. Pedestrian standing at corner waving on car, driver stopped, waving on pedestrian, who's going to move first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-Leeds Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Wait for the claims to come in. The new crash for cash scheme. Pedestrian standing at corner waving on car, driver stopped, waving on pedestrian, who's going to move first. And the obvious, car rear ended as they still have back end on the road they’re turning out of ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 The main thing to consider is that the Highway Code isn't law, it's the Road Traffic Act that is. The Highway Code is just guidance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 The main thing to consider is that the Highway Code isn't law, it's the Road Traffic Act that is. The Highway Code is just guidance.Many of the rules in the Highway Code are legal requirements, and if you disobey these rules you are committing a criminal offence. You may be fined, given penalty points on your licence or be disqualified from driving. In the most serious cases you may be sent to prison. Such rules are identified by the use of the words ‘MUST/MUST NOT’.Although failure to comply with the other rules of the Code will not, in itself, cause a person to be prosecuted, The Highway Code may be used in evidence in any court proceedings under the Traffic Acts to establish liability. This includes rules which use advisory wording such as ‘should/should not’ or ‘do/do not’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Many of the rules in the Highway Code are legal requirements, and if you disobey these rules you are committing a criminal offence. You may be fined, given penalty points on your licence or be disqualified from driving. In the most serious cases you may be sent to prison. Such rules are identified by the use of the words ‘MUST/MUST NOT’.Although failure to comply with the other rules of the Code will not, in itself, cause a person to be prosecuted, The Highway Code may be used in evidence in any court proceedings under the Traffic Acts to establish liability. This includes rules which use advisory wording such as ‘should/should not’ or ‘do/do not’. Exactly, it isn't law. You can't get charged under the Highway Code, you get charged under the RTA. It may include some points of law, but that doesn't make it law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Exactly, it isn't law. You can't get charged under the Highway Code, you get charged under the RTA. It may include some points of law, but that doesn't make it law.Yip, just explaining it a bit clearer than you did. [emoji14] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Yip, just explaining it a bit clearer than you did. [emoji14]You could just have posted the link. [emoji16] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 You could just have posted the link. [emoji16]Just thought I'd post a pizza of it instead. [emoji14] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Just thought I'd post a pizza of it instead. [emoji14]You're just a boy, you'll lorne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 hours ago, pod said: Hi Vis, helmets, hand signals, bells and the one that a lot of cyclist that I've come across don't seem to think they need when dark, lights. Should also have those bits of card in the back spokes to make vroom vroom noises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 58 minutes ago, SuperSaints1877 said: Should also have those bits of card in the back spokes to make vroom vroom noises. We used to use wooden lollypop sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 We used to use wooden lollypop sticks. Just waiting for antrin to tell us thar bikes hadn't been invented when he was a kid. Or lollipops. Or wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Nah. cannae be arsed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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